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A Return to Triangulation (libertarion vs social right)
National Review Online ^ | 10/25/06 | David Boaz & David Kirby

Posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Blackirish

As the Republican base fragments and Christian conservatives consider a “fast” from politics, the polling data point to a mid-term Republican thumping. Less than two weeks from now, Republicans will begin their post-mortem soul searching. And as the corpses of their House and Senate majorities grow cold, so should Karl Rove’s 2006 campaign strategy.

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To: metmom

1401?


1,401 posted on 10/29/2006 6:33:47 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

65,535? Oh... :(


1,402 posted on 10/29/2006 6:34:24 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Yep. 65,535 is the upper limit. That's the max number of posts possible on any thread here. We ran that one thread all the way just to do it J
1,403 posted on 10/29/2006 6:37:51 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

I thought it would be fun to break a record. I guess THAT'S not going to happen.


1,404 posted on 10/29/2006 6:38:55 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Already been done in that case. However this one is a first too. A Double Hijacking. LOL J
1,405 posted on 10/29/2006 6:40:44 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: metmom

Your first answer was sufficient. This belated additional response only reinforces that one, so thanks.

For the lurkers: just a quick reiteration that scientists don't go around "believing in " our stuff. We always have to be ready to change if new data demonstrates the need.


1,406 posted on 10/29/2006 6:47:03 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Fiddlstix
What happened after 65,535 ? did the thread get too heavy to lift?
1,407 posted on 10/29/2006 6:49:22 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish
did the thread get too heavy to lift?

The computer CPU thought so ;)
1,408 posted on 10/29/2006 6:53:22 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Blackirish
LOL! Yeah, Something like that. All those posts start getting real heavy and the servers start to sink into the ground. It's all very technical J
1,409 posted on 10/29/2006 6:54:11 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: From many - one.
I was checking to see what another poster understands about gravity.. and got my answer.

Did you need her to say something about permeable membranes or something? The helium part of a your question wasn't only about gravity. My question to you was & like you, I was checking to see what another poster understands about gravity...

When my sons were little, we seemed to go through a phase where they had helium balloons on a pretty regular basis. After awhile, the balloons would get to the point where they just hovered above the floor. Looking at some of them one day, I wondered what would happen if I took them into the basement. What do you think the balloons did after I took them there? Do you think they hovered over the basement floor, as they had over my living room floor or do you think they rose to the basement ceiling? There was a slight difference in temperature. The basement was slightly colder, though I didn't check the difference with a thermometer. Colder could have caused the balloon to shrink a bit, but I didn't notice a change in size. I didn't measure for it, as size wouldn't have added any more helium molecules to the balloon. So anyway, what do you think those balloons did?

I'm not sure but I don't think there are many (any?) professional scientists left who will post on a biology thread or segment.

Understandable, because a lot of them look more like food fights than "discussion". From my POV, part of the reason there is so much discord in the area of biology has to do with the fight about making this "soft" science into a more "hard" science. IMO, confusing rigidity with strength is an error.

The fact that so many FReepers managed to get through HS without learning basic scientific method is the fault of our education system. Telling students to keep their world view to themselves, essentially, "sit down & shut up, while I teach you what you need to know", is an instance of trying teach what to think, instead of how to think. Learning how to think is much more important than all of us knowing what to think, if our civilization is to advance.

I'm limiting mine to some data checking.

You do your thing & other people do theirs.

Tech threads may be ok. Even though Biblical literalism would require a re-ordering of physics, geology and astronomy; for some reason they seem to be left alone.

You're telling this to the wrong person, trust me.

Part of me is thinking along the order of screwing up the threadjacking in progress. Allowing that to happen would probably be the better part of valor. Hitting post, proof that I've yet to be fully cured from tilting at windmills on occasion. LOL

1,410 posted on 10/29/2006 7:09:15 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
"Do you think they hovered over the basement floor, as they had over my living room floor or do you think they rose to the basement ceiling?"

Shouldn't be such a difficult question. Regardless of temperature, they should have floated higher than the floor of the basement, and likely would have been close to the top. Basements often harbor gasses not found in the living space, or in different proportions; CO2 for one, might be there, depending on the weather conditions, and would cause the baloons to float higher than if it were not present.

1,411 posted on 10/29/2006 7:27:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Last Visible Dog; DaveLoneRanger
It looks more like a circle jerk

Well, I don't know about that, but the importance-to-conservatism-o-meter says that the narrow focus, is truly narrow. Since the actual site is fairly anemic, I chose a bigger brother to compare.


1,412 posted on 10/29/2006 7:28:54 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC

Something on your graphic doesn't make sense.


1,413 posted on 10/29/2006 7:36:12 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor

What is that?


1,414 posted on 10/29/2006 7:36:46 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: GoLightly

Thanks for the thoughtful response.

Your experiment sounds good. I'm not sure how I would answer because there is also a humidity difference that could have an impact I vaguely remember from a meterology class some stuff about adiabatic curves that might also be relevant. Problem is I wasn't very good at that stuff.

I agree that rigidity is often confused with strength, but disagree that biology is a soft science like, say sociology.


1,415 posted on 10/29/2006 7:50:44 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Blackirish
G'Nite. See you tomorrow J
1,416 posted on 10/29/2006 8:22:44 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix; Blackirish

Thank you BlackIrish!!


1,417 posted on 10/29/2006 8:35:18 PM PST by Mo1 (GET OUT AND VOTE - SAY NO TO DEMOCRATS)
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To: Mo1

Gnite all...I hope we all have a great week!

Should ask the mods to change the title of this thread?


1,418 posted on 10/29/2006 9:12:03 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: onyx
Yep, Dallas played Carolina, AND WON!!

:)


1,419 posted on 10/29/2006 9:32:31 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: Liberal Classic; Dominic Harr
By the looks of it, fully one third of us are pro-science. I'm not talking about some fringe minority movement or the one percenters. The Republican party cannot win elections without the support of pro-science people like me.
I think the biggest problem here is in seeing the world divided into pro- and anti- camps, the same way that so many issues (as well as alleged issues) are seen. And I greatly appreciate Dominic Harr's message above.
1,420 posted on 10/29/2006 10:35:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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