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West Point opens Islamic worship space as Muslim cadets increase
Newsday.com ^ | 10/22/06 | Newsday.com

Posted on 10/22/2006 7:50:40 PM PDT by World_Events

WEST POINT, N.Y. (AP) _ Muslims at the U.S. Military Academy numbered just two in 2001. This year, there are 32.

Now West Point has opened its first space dedicated to Muslims, a worship hall complete with a pulpit facing Mecca. The space officially opened Thursday.

"I knew the Army had a policy of religious tolerance, but I didn't know it was to this extent," said first-year Cadet Ahmed Moomin, 20, from the Maldives.

Until now, Friday prayers were held in an increasingly crowded first-floor office, said Imam Asadullah, the academy's Muslim cleric. The number of Muslim cadets jumped by 10 from last year.

The new hall is large enough for dozens of followers, he said.

West Point's Muslim leaders approached administrators last year for help.

"We live in a world where everyone is looking at the United States saying, 'You're anti-Islam.' But here at West Point, that's not what we do," West Point Chaplain Col. John Cook said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barf; benedictarnolds; dhimmitude; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; infiltration; islam; jihad; letstrainourenemies; muslim; muslims; trop; usma; westpoint
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To: linda_22003

I know quite a few Muslims personally. Not one of them has ever said a negative word about terrorists and terrorism. Not one of them has ever said a positive word either.


381 posted on 10/23/2006 6:25:26 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: durasell

I like Stanley Crouch, though I doubt he could provide any surprising factoids or analysis I couldn't already imagine, or already know about.
What are you suggesting I "need to know"? , anyway? I can remember that aformentioned girlfriend's mother seeing what I was reading, turning up her nose at the unpleasant memory of her husband's dealings with Elijah M. when they lived on the South Side of Chicago, and me saying, to her surprise "If we have white racism, why not black racism?"
But I was after all 17, and it was the 1960s.


382 posted on 10/23/2006 7:35:44 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits targets no one else can hit, but genius hits targets no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: durasell

And BTW, if you're not going to even attempt to answer MY questions, don't bother drawing up reading lists for me, and give ME something that has to do with EXPERIENCE.


383 posted on 10/23/2006 7:40:32 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits targets no one else can hit, but genius hits targets no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: evad

How very contradictory to human nature is it to take an apolitical disaffection for those who have killed three thousand people on your home soil?


384 posted on 10/23/2006 7:41:13 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: conservative in nyc

Well then Just get lost!
We don't want your stupidity either!


385 posted on 10/23/2006 7:47:07 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Rokke

A simple study of Islamic history tells you that the religion is about conquering and subverting all who oppose Islam. These cadets may be simply stooges to get the door opened, or they are active subversives, either way, this is ridiculous!


386 posted on 10/23/2006 7:54:13 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: Rokke

Then you are fookin' Naive if you believe that! You CANNOT give me a rational reason why one NYC victim of 9/ 11 would agree with you! I live in Boston, the "home" of the attacks and I can only say as a Christian Woman with a brain, that you are hopelessly deranged!!
Lost four souls in MY Parish.. you?


387 posted on 10/23/2006 7:59:27 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: acapesket
Well then Just get lost!

We don't want your stupidity either!


Great way to win an argument - call people names. I'm not going anywhere.
388 posted on 10/23/2006 8:04:25 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: ScubieNuc
"A simple study of Islamic history tells you that the religion is about conquering and subverting all who oppose Islam. These cadets may be simply stooges to get the door opened, or they are active subversives, either way, this is ridiculous!"

It is absolutely amazing that so many people on this thread cannot get it through their heads that no matter how much they or anyone else hates Islam or Muslims THERE IS NO LAW IN THE UNITED STATES THAT ALLOWS WEST POINT, THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, OR ANY PUBLIC AGENCY TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST MUSLIMS. In post #26 of this almost 400 post thread I asked for someone to provide legal justification West Point could use to exclude qualified US citizen Muslims from attending the Military Academy. Nobody has. Do you know why? Can you guess? Here's a hint...IT DOESN'T EXIST! Don't blame West Point, the US Army or Donald Rumsfeld. They don't create laws. They follow laws. And that is exactly what they are doing in this case.

389 posted on 10/23/2006 8:23:02 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: conservative in nyc

THAT is exactly why you are so flagrantly inneffectual.

You have no Validity, no cogent arguements.. "talking points" GALORE.. an empty suit...perhaps

Are you Obama Osama?
Uncle Ted's looking for you.. little drowner


390 posted on 10/23/2006 8:24:23 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: acapesket
"Then you are fookin' Naive if you believe that!"

Help me out here. Believe what?

"You CANNOT give me a rational reason why one NYC victim of 9/ 11 would agree with you!"

Completely and utterly irrelevant to this discussion. Until they force a change in US law their opinions are nothing more than opinions. No matter how valid.

"I live in Boston, the "home" of the attacks and I can only say as a Christian Woman with a brain, that you are hopelessly deranged!!"

Why don't try again but use some rationality. I'm "hopelessly deranged"? What exactly have I said that is hopelessly deranged?

"Lost four souls in MY Parish.. you?"

I didn't realize this was some kind of competition. What..are you proud of that fact? Why don't you take a breath and think for a minute. I've served in the military since 1985. Lady, I've lost more close friends and classmates fighting Islamic nutjobs than I care to relate to the likes of you. Your emotionally driven hysteria is exactly what we don't need in our war against Islamic nutjobs. If you really are a Christian woman with a brain (neither of which is obviously apparent in your posts), you need to take some time and pray before you spew.

391 posted on 10/23/2006 8:42:27 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
We in the west have a real and implacable enemy in Islam. You need to wake up and recognize that threat. It cannot be accommodated, for Islam itself is incapable of accommodating any ideology other than Islam. Embrace Islam, invite it into your "home," and it will devour you just as it is devouring Europe.
392 posted on 10/23/2006 8:47:06 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
All the fine soldiers who graduated at West Point are rolling over in their graves.

I graduated WP 35 years ago and although I am still alive, I am not overly upset at this. I really don't believe cadets of the Islamic faith are going to become the terrorists of tomorrow. The only thing I am having trouble with is - what rank is Imam???

393 posted on 10/23/2006 8:47:58 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: USMA '71
I really don't believe cadets of the Islamic faith are going to become the terrorists of tomorrow.

You exhibit a touching, innocent faith. You think Muslims are just like you. You assume that Islam is just another religion, not an all-encompassing ideology that is antithetical to western notions of governance and society.

The evidence is abundant and it is clear. Islam is on a worldwide Jihad made possible by the highest birth rates in the world. Islam will devour the effete dying nations of the west if not in one generation, then surely in three to five.

394 posted on 10/23/2006 8:53:48 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

lets take a look at some suras from the qur'an that are straight from the camel's mouth:

don't be friends with jews or christians

if people are unwilling to convert to islam, then they are subject to capital punishment unless they are jews or christians and willing to accept dhimmi status and pay the jizya.

all muslims are obligated to wage jihad to establish a world governed by shari'a, by force if necessary.

all polytheists, unbelievers and idolators (buddhists, hindus, zoroastrians and pretty much everybody else other than jews and christians) are subject to capital punishment unless they convert to islam. no dhimmi status. no jizya option.

no muslim is allowed to enter into an alliance with non-muslims against other muslims

women and children and property are religiously-sanctioned war booty (rape and murder ok)

anyone who insults the prophet is worthy of death.


what they don't tell you: muhammed ripped off a lot of his crap straight out of the talmud and zoroastrian texts. in the satanic verses, mohamed supposedly had satan speak through him, raising questions as to whether every word of his mouth was spawned by satan himself.

mohammed never set foot in jerusalem in his life.

learn. read spencer's book.


395 posted on 10/23/2006 8:59:15 PM PDT by Uncle Billy ("A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away all you have")
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To: JCEccles
"You need to wake up and recognize that threat."

The absolute arrogance exhibited by people like you on this thread is unbelievable. I've been fighting Islamic whacko's for decades. Let me make that a little clearer. They have literally been trying to kill me while I've been killing them. That means real bullets, real missiles, real bombs. Having someone like you tell me to "wake up" is ridiculous to the point of being amusing. When was the last time you put your butt on the line against this Islamic menace? Or are you just a "textbook" expert? The day I need insight from someone like you regarding the threat Islam represents to our society is the day after I have a full lobotomy and lose the memory of all the time I've spent thousands of miles away from my wife and kids killing muslim terrorists before they can kill my family. Go pander your empty "warnings" to someone who actually believes your commitment extends to something other than your internet rants.

396 posted on 10/23/2006 9:03:36 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke

"THERE IS NO LAW IN THE UNITED STATES THAT ALLOWS WEST POINT, THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, OR ANY PUBLIC AGENCY TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST MUSLIMS."

Sure there is. Sedition is still illegal. Islam teaches sedition. Title 18, Part 1, Ch 115.


397 posted on 10/23/2006 9:18:40 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: acapesket
How very contradictory to human nature is it to take an apolitical disaffection for those who have killed three thousand people on your home soil?

uhh...ok.

I think ya mighta throwed in one 2 many double negatuvs there but does it all boil down to a bad hair day for yas?

Peace darlin' ;-)

398 posted on 10/23/2006 9:24:47 PM PDT by evad
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
"Sedition is still illegal. Islam teaches sedition."

So do democrats and the MSM. Unfortunately, the DoD can't ban them either.

399 posted on 10/23/2006 9:27:59 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
"So do democrats and the MSM. Unfortunately, the DoD can't ban them either."

Are you going to deny the sedition laws on the books?

Holding to an international supremacist ideology with a stated goal to overthrow the Constitution and every other non-Muslim government - as echoed by many Muslim "community" groups in the US - is actually sedition? That goes far beyond the Dems and the MSM. The only quantifiable difference between Islam and the Nazis is the age of the movement. That's pretty much it.

Sensible policy would have seen CAIR banned on 9/12. Unfortunately, even "conservatives" in power are afflicted with PC.

I guess what John Harrington said about treason is true.
400 posted on 10/23/2006 9:35:24 PM PDT by EnochPowellWasRight
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