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Muslim Student Groups Praise Authorities For Handling Of Koran Incidents
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| October 19, 2006
| Solana Pyne
Posted on 10/21/2006 12:01:33 PM PDT by lowbridge
Muslim Student Groups Praise Authorities For Handling Of Koran Incidents
October 19, 2006
Representatives of city Muslim organizations gathered Thursday to condemn two possible anti-Muslim bias crimes at Pace University. But as Criminal Justice Reporter Solana Pyne explains in the following report, the groups are impressed with authorities for the way they're investigating the incidents.
In the space of a month there have been two separate incidents where a Koran, the Muslim holy book, was found in a Pace University toilet. The most recent was found just last Friday.
"This is no different from placing a burning cross in front of a house or painting a swastika on a locker," said Aliya Latif of the Muslim-American Lawyers Association.
Representatives of New York Muslim organizations came together Thursday to make sure the incidents aren't forgotten, even as they praised the way authorities are handling them.
"We spoke to [the] NYPD yesterday and they said they are doing everything they could to make sure there will be an arrest. They will work really hard on this," said Omar T Mohammedi of the American-Islamic Relations Council.
The Pace Muslim Students association, which criticized the University for not being aggressive enough in its handling of the first incident where a library copy of the Koran was found in the library toilet, praised the administration's actions this time.
"I would say that the university has kind of done a 180 and is definitely working with us in terms of labeling it as a hate crime and then, the sensitivity forums that I spoke about earlier, they're actually helping us facilitate those," said Faiza Ali of the Muslim Students Association.
Pace University released a statement on Thursday in response to the incidents announcing an anti-hate campaign.
"Pace University has aggressively reached out to our many student organizations and campus councils that are concerned with promoting acceptance and combating intolerance," said part of the statement. "All of them are responding with deep concern and constructive suggestions; we are very united."
The Muslim Students Association said the fact that these incidents happened here on campus has made some fear for their safety. But they say that overall the reaction of other students has been more than reassuring.
"We actually have been welcomed by a lot of student groups on campus that have been standing in solidarity with us," said Ali.
And they are standing in solidarity with others in two more possible bias-related incidents over the last month, directed toward other groups.
"The same week that the first incident occurred with the Koran, that Friday a swastika and racial slurs were spray painted on a bathroom stall in Pace University, said Ali. In our Westchester campus on someone's car there were racial slurs spray painted as well."
The NYPD hate crimes task force is investigating all four incidents. So far they haven't identified any suspects.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmi; dhimmitude; fakehatecrimes; islam; koran; muslim; muslims; pace; rop; sharia; shariainamerica; trop; whiningmuslims
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To: muawiyah
It is just a book. So too is a bible. It should not be worshiped. It does represent something though. Deliberately desecrating any sacred object IS offensive - and that is certainly what the intention was here.
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posted on
10/21/2006 2:26:40 PM PDT
by
Vanders9
To: Nathan Zachary
Yet Muzzies are now going door to door handing out pamphlets and saying Christianity is a false religion, and only Islam is a true religion.
Ive no problems with them doing that. As a Christian I can out-argue them. I have no fear of their "competition". Its when they stop ME doing the same that I get antzy.
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posted on
10/21/2006 2:28:21 PM PDT
by
Vanders9
To: ExpatCanuck
I'm with you on this one.
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posted on
10/21/2006 2:30:05 PM PDT
by
Vanders9
To: lowbridge
Using the Koran for toilet paper is ART, imho.
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posted on
10/21/2006 2:38:57 PM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
(an enemy of islam)
To: lowbridge
"We spoke to [the] NYPD yesterday and they said they are doing everything they could to make sure there will be an arrest.
Well I hope they're not surprised if the person arrested is named Mohammed or Aliya.
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posted on
10/21/2006 2:41:48 PM PDT
by
Clink
("Government is not the solution, government is the problem".--Ronald Reagan)
To: lowbridge
How is this a violation of the law?
To: lowbridge
This is a brilliant protest message! Anyone know where I can get cheap copies of the Koran?
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posted on
10/21/2006 3:11:25 PM PDT
by
IronJack
To: Vanders9
Deliberately desecrating any sacred object IS offensive So is beheading people. So is stealing airplanes and flying them into buildings. So is wearing bomb belts onto crowded commuter buses and igniting them.
Islam is the AUTHOR of "offensive."
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posted on
10/21/2006 3:14:15 PM PDT
by
IronJack
To: LoudRepublicangirl
Yes, shouldn't burning our flag and wishing death to America be just as hateful?
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posted on
10/21/2006 3:29:01 PM PDT
by
Sender
("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
To: Vanders9
A printed Bible is still just a book. We don't worship a book. There are, on the other hand, Moslems who literally worship copies of the Koran like they were little idols.
What it means is that they worship one more god than Christians or Jews and are not Monotheistic.
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posted on
10/21/2006 4:06:37 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: wtc911
Very good point. It just never occurs to Christians, Jews, Buddhists or Hindus to dunk a Koran in a toilet to insult Islam.
We don't have to for one thing, and besides, it's just a book.
99.99% of the Koran in the toilet crowd (where someone actually does that) are Moslems seeking to achieve status as "official victim" of whatever other religious group might be around.
Now I can't speak for atheists, but it might not occur to an atheist either.
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posted on
10/21/2006 4:11:06 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: lowbridge
The Koran IS a "Hate Crime"
The contents of the Koran is an absolute defense to it "desecration".
Just read it into the court record at trial.
MUSLIMS INSTRUCTED TO KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS [9:29-30] JUST FOR SPEAKING AGAINST ISLAM [9:32]!
KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book,
until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
KORAN [9.30] And the
Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the
Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before;
may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS PROHIBITED:
KORAN [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.
THIS IS MUHAMMAD'S EXAMPLE JUSTIFYING THE KILLING OF DUTCH FILM MAKER THEO van GOGH:
Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]
HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that
the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes. He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job.
And they killed him.
APOSTATES AND "young people with foolish thoughts"
TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE WHO FINDS THEM (e.g. honor killings):
KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore
take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for
the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated 'Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world)
there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats.
So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy).
No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."
AND MODERATE MUSLIMS TOO:
HADITH Sahih Muslim [5:2325] Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
A group would secede itself (from the Ummah) when there would be dissension among the Muslims. Out of the two groups who would be nearer the truth would kill them.
Unlike Christians, Muslims can pretend to deny their faith to fool unbelievers (Al-Taqiyyah):
KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed,
not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
UNEQUAL JUSTICE:
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that
no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."
HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the
roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.
WOMEN (and girls) IN ISLAM:
KORAN [2.223] Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.
KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion,
admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:67] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and
a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said,
"Her silence (indicates her permission)."
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage).
Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and
he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
THE JOOOOOOZ IN ISLAM:
KORAN [9.30] And the
Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the
Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before;
may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said,
"You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a
Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a
Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The
Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a
Jew behind me; kill him!' "
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the
Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a
Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a
Jew behind me."
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the
Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a
Jew behind me; come and kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The
Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a
Jew behind me; kill him.
HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the
Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the
Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a
Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the
Jews.
© Religion of Peace
KORAN (Shakir translation): http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
ISLAM DELENDA EST!
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posted on
10/21/2006 4:34:36 PM PDT
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
To: Bon mots
nice photos.....this is where the book of the religion of death & destruction belongs....floating with the turds that pray with them!!!!
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posted on
10/21/2006 4:38:12 PM PDT
by
hnj_00
To: lowbridge
Joe six pack says --- how come these idiot chile Muslims keep throwing their alleged holy book into toilets?
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posted on
10/21/2006 4:43:37 PM PDT
by
dennisw
("What one man can do, another can do")
To: dennisw
FLUSH MO'
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posted on
10/21/2006 4:49:46 PM PDT
by
dennisw
("What one man can do, another can do")
To: dennisw
Waste of a good pistol target, if you ask me....
To: muawiyah
"What it means is that they worship one more god than Christians or Jews and are not Monotheistic."
Let's not forget their worship of Mohammad, the genocidal rapist.
That's 3 including Allah the moon god.
To: EnochPowellWasRight
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posted on
10/21/2006 4:59:46 PM PDT
by
dennisw
("What one man can do, another can do")
To: EnochPowellWasRight
Look, Syrian Orthodox and other Arabic speaking Christians call God "Allah", so get off this kick of referring to "Allah" as a "Moon god".
If you mean to suggest Moslems worship the Moon, then say so, but cut out the blaspheme.
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posted on
10/21/2006 5:01:26 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
"Look, Syrian Orthodox and other Arabic speaking Christians call God "Allah", so get off this kick of referring to "Allah" as a "Moon god"."
I will not. "Allah" is Arabic for "god", but make no mistake: the Allah Muslims worship is not Yahweh - is not God.
"If you mean to suggest Moslems worship the Moon, then say so, but cut out the blaspheme."
Are you one of those who believes Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship the same god just because of the word used?
You are VERY wrong.
Saying the Muslims worship Satan and call him "god" in Arabic is only blasphemy if I were a Muslim.
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