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UPDATE: Aircraft hit building at 71st and York Ave on East Side of Manhattan
Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | 10/11/06 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/11/2006 11:53:53 AM PDT by Yossarian

Rush reports that a Cessna has been reported as crashing into (at least one) apartment complex in NYC Mannhattan's upper east side - on East 71st Street.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aircraft; burning; charlesbishop; charlesbishra; corylidle; crash; fire; lidle; manhattan; movealong; muzzienutz; newyork; nothingtoseehere; notterrorism; notterrorismrelated; ny; nyc; plane; planecrash; slownewsday
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To: Miss Marple

Agreed. That's a different matter altogether.


1,541 posted on 10/11/2006 2:11:16 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: eastsider

I know...

I just looked at an article that was posted about Lidle and his plane from a while back.

I also talked to my son a second ago....he is a flight instructor who has his own plane...he doesn't have a Cirrus like this one was...but he has flown one...and he said that Lidle probably had way too few flight hours to be flying in that area...(not being critical, he said it easy to get caught in areas like that).

I did hear on MSNBC that he was not in contact with any air traffic controller, and all planes are supposed to fly OVER all buildings...so there might have been some "novice" mistakes...very sad.


1,542 posted on 10/11/2006 2:11:47 PM PDT by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME--You need FR, you know you do, so please don't forget to donate!!)
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To: Miss Marple

what's with all the venom in this thread? Sheesh people


1,543 posted on 10/11/2006 2:11:52 PM PDT by RDTF (Iraq: terrorist flypaper)
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To: conservative in nyc

Hadn't heard that. Who reported it?


1,544 posted on 10/11/2006 2:11:55 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Republican Red
Actually upside down it reads 90/11/01.

Yes, then one need only split the '90' down the middle & rotate it counter-clockwise around the central axis and...
there you have it...
'09/11/01'...no mirrors necessary...

1,545 posted on 10/11/2006 2:12:04 PM PDT by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: Republican Red
No reflection on Lidle but it just shows the power of celebrity.

Exact same thing happened with Payne Stewart. For several hours all we knew there was a plane off course that nobody could get in contact with, then we found out that Payne was on board.

1,546 posted on 10/11/2006 2:12:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: af_vet_rr

Agree with you.......but.......NYers are anxious, to say the least. When you take the subways underground, the trains leading into Penn Station and Grand Central Station, have experienced 9/11 in your own backyard, and then a year later, a major blackout on the East Coast, which was reminiscent of 9/11, the following year a major transit strike, which again, had folks walking for hours over all of the Manhattan Bridges, the same visual of 9/11, add to this that there hasn't been a single plane crash into a building since somewhere around 1940ish (correct me if I am wrong).......add in the month of Ramadan, the constant jihadist websites calling for the destruction of the Great Satan, with specific references to NYC, DC, it kinda makes ya a little anxious, don't ya think?


1,547 posted on 10/11/2006 2:12:23 PM PDT by FlowJo (Islam, the religion of tolerance, my foot (or my head??))
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To: conservative in nyc

How horrible.


1,548 posted on 10/11/2006 2:12:33 PM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: conservative in nyc

How horrible.


1,549 posted on 10/11/2006 2:12:34 PM PDT by babaloo
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To: Txsleuth

The plane was likely flying over the East River before it veered into the building. The building is very close to the river.


1,550 posted on 10/11/2006 2:12:49 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Screamname
I don`t think we could get that lucky. Too bad the NY Times building isn`t located there as well.

LOL. ..

(. . . just hearing the sad news as to pilot. . .and more victims. . .) No doubt could have been far more victims here. . .

1,551 posted on 10/11/2006 2:12:59 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)
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To: dcgard

His bio reads that he had a wife (married in 1997) and a son born in 2000. Also said he was a teammate of Jason Giambi in HS.

Tried to download the audio from the WFAN website, I think they are in the process of pulling that interview off. It was one of the oddest sports interviews I have ever heard, very heated.


1,552 posted on 10/11/2006 2:13:05 PM PDT by deputac (NYPD & FDNY: The Other Twin Towers of New York)
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To: sarasota

WCBS-TV a few minutes ago.


1,553 posted on 10/11/2006 2:13:24 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: sarasota
The area is densely populated, and with unrestricted space, you can have people with little experience zipping around at 1500ft, who may well be sight or thrill seeking instead of paying attention to what they are doing.

New pilots tend to forget that things happen faster in an airplane than they do in a car. That is why many of them run into things you would think they would have otherwise have noticed.

It would not hurt much to limit the unrestricted space to less dense locations.
1,554 posted on 10/11/2006 2:13:46 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Being a Liberal is just a coping mechanism for low self esteem and/or bad parenting.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Dietl has a point. It is a little silly for that area to be unrestricted space. Its just the wrong climate for that. Safety suggests a change.

His point is one made either from ignorance or from a callous attempt to make noise about something he knowingly misrepresents. Flight plans are meaningless in this case. Would this guy have been knowingly denied "permission" to fly down the east river corridor? no. This attack on GA is classic scapegoating and I would hope that those on this forum would appreciate that. If they tell me that I can't fly in the VFR exclusions (the correct terminology, btw) around NYC, then on what principled grounds can "they" tell you not to drive an SUV through the Holland tunnel? Oh, heck. It's for the children.

1,555 posted on 10/11/2006 2:13:48 PM PDT by nj_pilot
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To: Miss Marple

p.s. not you :)


1,556 posted on 10/11/2006 2:14:02 PM PDT by RDTF (Iraq: terrorist flypaper)
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To: conservative in nyc
Pilot found on ground strapped to his seat, along with another passenger. They are still looking for a third passenger.

Now that's just creepy. What did they do, bounce off the darn building?

1,557 posted on 10/11/2006 2:14:04 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: conservative in nyc
Who is Lidle closest with on the team? Could be another 1-2 players on board.
1,558 posted on 10/11/2006 2:14:06 PM PDT by jdm
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To: sarasota

The airports have been at condition orange for several weeks now.


1,559 posted on 10/11/2006 2:14:08 PM PDT by CarryaBigStick
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To: jdm

ESPN has best coverage of all of this right now.


1,560 posted on 10/11/2006 2:14:54 PM PDT by JFC (Conservatives, you are either with us or against us)
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