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Europe Is Growing Skeptical Of Dialogue With Muslims (excellent article)
The NY Sun ^ | 10/6/2006 | YOUSSEF IBRAHIM

Posted on 10/06/2006 10:53:59 AM PDT by Dark Skies

After years of dithering over political correctness with Muslims and Islam, Europe is waking up to a different morning.

A three-week tour of Italy, France, and Britain last month was enough for me to conclude that Western Europeans have moved way beyond dialogue. Confrontation, indeed even provocation, is their preferred approach to the Muslims in their midst.

Long before Pope Benedict XVI's scathing comments in mid-September on the fallacy of phony Muslim-Christian dialogue, signs of hardening European views toward current Islamic values were plentiful on the Continent

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; europe; infiltration; islam; muslim; muslims; pope; terror; uk; wot
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To: Eurotwit

I agree.


81 posted on 10/06/2006 12:47:02 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: sgtbono2002

You never hear about Muslims in Switzerland. I wonder how many there are. I think the Swiss are like the Japanese--they don't let just anybody in.


82 posted on 10/06/2006 12:48:13 PM PDT by carola
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To: -YYZ-

I agree with you about Canada. Canada is becoming amost as big a thorn in our side as Mexico is.


83 posted on 10/06/2006 12:50:13 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: BobS

I wouldn't criticze them too much. What have we done to actually prevent them from spreading their filthy culture here? We're still stuck on stupid - PC to the max day in and day out over the damned muslims.


84 posted on 10/06/2006 12:52:26 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: fireman43

One thing everyone seems to forget at their own peril is this simple fact.

Westerners excel at killing their enemies, once they finally decide to go to War.

They may be little slow at making that decision but once it is made it is bad news for the other guys.


85 posted on 10/06/2006 12:54:54 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: Defiant

Well said.


86 posted on 10/06/2006 12:54:56 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: fireman43

Nah, you're paranoid, perhaps with some reason. The Muslims are much more unwelcome in Europe than the Jews.


87 posted on 10/06/2006 1:00:21 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Jezebelle
The French police now consider themselves to be in a civil war with the Muslims. I would not be surprised to see a tooth-rattling reaction to their antics within the next year or two. By tooth-rattling I mean automatic weapons, tanks, artillery, etc. Once the first step is taken to deal with the Muslims the only way it is possible to deal with them, the second, third, etc. step will be much easier. Look for that day. It will be as memorable a day in Europe as 9/11 is for us.
88 posted on 10/06/2006 1:02:33 PM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer (The Democrats solution is poison. When the patient is dying, their solution - more poison.)
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To: Boiler Plate

Yes, see post #28.


89 posted on 10/06/2006 1:03:01 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Dark Skies

Europe is just NOW getting skeptical? Guess they are slow learners.


90 posted on 10/06/2006 1:04:56 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: expatpat
You don't realize that there is a brutal beast under that veneer of politeness?

Why aren't there any other species under Genus: Homo other than sapiens? Ever see chimps organize murder parties? Where did all the big game go in N.America/Europe?

A killer lurks beneath the placid facade of civilisation.

91 posted on 10/06/2006 1:05:12 PM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: BobS

They probably don't release it because they don't want to put up with the bullshit from the left in this country - you know, that Fifth Column trying to take us down from the inside.


92 posted on 10/06/2006 1:06:05 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Dark Skies
The dialogue is over. The time for action is closing in.

Every non-Muslim should recognize this simple fact.

93 posted on 10/06/2006 1:14:05 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Gone GF

The protections of a "religion" should be withdrawn from Islam, because it is actually a political cult. No other religion wants to take over world political systems; Islam believes it is a world political system, and wants to take over and crush all others. I think it would be perfectly deligitimizable, probably through particular laws in Congress.


94 posted on 10/06/2006 1:15:39 PM PDT by livius
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To: agere_contra

It's hard to believe Muslims make up only 3% of England when they stage demonstrations calling for death to those who criticize Islam. Are are the people in the other 97% of population all pantywaists?


95 posted on 10/06/2006 1:15:46 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Chuck Dent

Oh please. Spare us the moral equivalency.


96 posted on 10/06/2006 1:16:22 PM PDT by livius
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To: Gone GF

I didn't say convert them, and I didn't say annihilate 1.1 billion. I was only speaking of the ones who've infiltrated the European countries we've been speaking of.

The IRS can take away the mossies' religious status. All they have to do is find that their primary activities are not religious in nature.

Hitler failed because most of the civilized world united against him. That would not be the case with the moosies. The Saudis, the Jordanians, the Egyptians, etc., are not going to wage war on the U.S. and Europe for wiping out a bunch of terrorists in their or our midsts.


97 posted on 10/06/2006 1:20:06 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

It depends on who the French elect. If they elect another moron like Chirac, plan on "negotiations" and concessions made to the moosies - whole sections of Paris and perhaps eventually other parts of the country where shar'ia law is recognized as the controlling authority.


98 posted on 10/06/2006 1:23:48 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: fireman43

Somali Muslim cab drivers at the Minneapolis airport are refusing to carry passengers they believe to be carrying alcohol (such as the wine you buy at duty-free). The city government is going to give no-alcohol cabs a special light to put on top of them so passengers won't offend the Muzzies by trying to board with wine - or even a bottle of rubbing alcohol or Listerine, to which they apparently also object.

It's not clear to me how the Muzzies are even going to konw the passengers are carrying a - horrors! - bottle of wine. Is the city going to give the Muslims the right to search their passengers now?

This garbage isn't happening only in Europe.


99 posted on 10/06/2006 1:24:13 PM PDT by livius
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To: Defiant
pass laws that prohibit Islamic practices

How a bout the islamic practice of spawning dozens of children? Those burqa's make ideal maternity clothes.

The islamic birthrate is far far higher than the Europeans' and may well triumph in the end. Those chic Frahnch women eschewed motherhood long ago in favor of being eternally slim. And cool. And hip. And liberated.

100 posted on 10/06/2006 1:24:37 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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