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Lawmaker Wants Teachers Armed With Guns ( FReep a Poll )
The Associated Press ^ | October 5, 2006 | Rep. Lasee

Posted on 10/05/2006 8:10:28 AM PDT by george76

In the wake of school shootings in Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania during the last two weeks, a Wisconsin state legislator said he plans to introduce legislation that would allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons.

Rep. Frank Lasee, R-Bellevue, said Wednesday that, while his idea may not be politically correct, it has worked effectively in other countries.

"To make our schools safe for our students to learn, all options should be on the table," he said.

"Israel and Thailand have well-trained teachers carrying weapons and keeping their children safe from harm. It can work in Wisconsin."

Lasee stressed that the measure would hinge on school staff members getting strict training on the use of the weapons.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Israel; US: Colorado; US: Pennsylvania; US: Wisconsin; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: amish; bang; banglist; colorado; democrats; israel; madison; pennsylvania; principals; schools; secondamendment; students; teachers; terrorism; thailand; wisconsin
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To: george76

One of the worst ideas I've ever heard -- muddies the waters when the inner city kids claim that they need guns in the classroom just as much for self defense. And the first time a teacher shoots back; can you imagine the legal wrangling on that one?


21 posted on 10/05/2006 8:36:42 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: truthingod

I agree. I'm for guns on school property, but only in the hands of professionals. School teachers, many of them though certainly not all, do enough damage to our children. And many do not like teaching and are frustrated people. Do we really want them, even IF they have training, to be armed? I don't think so. They would go after conservatives first, eventually. But I do like the idea of having an armed security guard or at least a/several designated armed individuals.


22 posted on 10/05/2006 8:38:00 AM PDT by twigs
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To: george76

It's about time. This "Gun Free Zone" crap is what draws violent offenders like honey draws bears.


23 posted on 10/05/2006 8:38:02 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; AmericaUnite; Aussie Dasher; backinthefold; bayourant; ...
Thanks to george 76 for da ping! (considering some of the teachers I had while growing up I am ambivalent about this one)

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me and gordongekko909 if you want to be added or removed from the Freep this Poll! Ping list. And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list)

24 posted on 10/05/2006 8:38:29 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Dixie Yooper

Exactly what I was thinking.

Besides, most teachers are either physically or mentally incapable of handling a firearm in a stress-filled situation. i don't think all teachers should carry guns. i wouldn't mind seeing this with those that are capable of doing so, however.


25 posted on 10/05/2006 8:38:42 AM PDT by Toby06
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To: pabianice

Ditto



This "Gun Free Zone" crap is what draws violent offenders like honey draws bears.


26 posted on 10/05/2006 8:40:31 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: kx9088

Currently, it is against the law for anyone to pack heat on school grounds in my state, except police officers. It is so extreme that a child with a GI Joe doll sized toy pistol(about the size of a quarter)was suspended from school for bringing that toy to class.


27 posted on 10/05/2006 8:43:13 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free
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To: edcoil
Parents should protect their children - if we had more parents in the schools on a daily basis, maybe our children would learn something.

You're quite right. But think a minute about taxes. The more taxes go up, the more hours parents must work just to cover the basics. And the less time they have to be the parents they are needed to be. Which, in turn, causes them to place more and more of the responsibility for their children in the hands of the state. Someone has this figured out. It all ties together.

28 posted on 10/05/2006 8:43:41 AM PDT by twigs
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To: All

We aren't all liberal hacks. My husband and I both teach high school and have concealed carry permits. I would feel MUCH better if we could carry in school. I carry everywhere else, so why do my 2nd amendment rights have to end at the schoolhouse door?


29 posted on 10/05/2006 8:45:07 AM PDT by the lastbestlady
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To: george76

I wonder how the National Education Association feels about this.

I have two pages of resolutions from their convention this year that touch everything but that idea.


30 posted on 10/05/2006 8:45:54 AM PDT by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high...... I get high.....I get high.....McCain.")
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To: twigs
I have always maintained and have put here and my writings that "we have taxed both parents out of the home and are now asking why are unsupervised children not behaving themselves."


That is my quote back under Bush , btw
31 posted on 10/05/2006 8:46:34 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: kx9088

I think one needs to be careful about arming people to do their job--this kind of thinking leads to many people need ing to potentially carry a weapon. I am thinking of healthcare workers in the ER, gas stations etc- it is just a thought that caution regarding protection for innocent children should solely rely on the aim of a teacher. I am not saying they can't have a weapon-but we must be careful about who is doing this.


32 posted on 10/05/2006 8:48:50 AM PDT by truthingod
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To: ContemptofCourt

Good point. Hire trained professionals.


33 posted on 10/05/2006 8:49:34 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: truthingod

I certainly would not expect a teacher to turn into Rambo, however, I think that if a teacher happened to have legally obtained their CCW then I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to carry during work hours. I would consider it an upgrade so when a school goes on lockdown it's not as easy for the psychos to start killing people.


34 posted on 10/05/2006 8:51:36 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: george76

Too many students would be shot.

I had a chemistry teacher was a good at teaching but was into black helicopters. Didn't take well to teenagers smart remarks in class about it either.


35 posted on 10/05/2006 8:54:32 AM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Now I thought the same thing about my state due to the signs on the building but, after speaking with a police officer who happened to be quite knowledgable in the area he stated that A) there is no case law on the subject B) the law says only those that are "licensed" to carry a weapon may do so on school property and C) if he were to come across someone who is legally licensed to CCW on school property he would not sound any alarms.


36 posted on 10/05/2006 8:56:07 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: george76
Should schools allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons?

Where's the "Hell Yeah!" button"? "Feel good" (pandering whores) legislation turned schools into "Target Rich Environments"... What friggin moron thought of that policy?... boggles the mind sometimes doesn't it.

37 posted on 10/05/2006 8:56:41 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Tired of Taxes; Clintonfatigued

ping


38 posted on 10/05/2006 9:00:16 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kx9088

That's the way it ought to be.


39 posted on 10/05/2006 9:00:29 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free
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To: george76
Should schools allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons?
Choice Votes Percentage of 2344 Votes
Yes 1059 45%
No 1285 55%

40 posted on 10/05/2006 9:05:59 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ .05ยข a can.)
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