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ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER; FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD
The Drudge Report ^ | 10-04-06 | Drudge

Posted on 10/04/2006 5:12:16 PM PDT by jrooney

A posting of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has apparently exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser...

ABC RELEASED TRANSCRIPT OF ONE CHAT BETWEEN FOLEY AND A MAN WHO WAS 18 AT THE TIME OF THE INSTANT MESSAGE EXCHANGE.... NETWORK STATED THE MESSAGE WAS TO 'UNDER AGE' TEEN... DEVELOPING...

ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER; FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

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To: MOgirl; little jeremiah
In addition, most homosexuals do NOT have sexual relations with underage "victims".

Numerous, if not all, studies show that your supposition is wrong. Here's one:

Researchers Karla Jay and Allen Young report data showing that 73% of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16-19 years of age or younger. (Karla Jay and Allen Young, The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out about Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles (New York: Summit Books, 1979), p. 275)

Insofar as the GOP leadership is concerned: If they knew about what Mark Foley was doing and did nothing to stop it, they should resign -- or be forced out if they do not resign. That's what I'm "talking about."

1,301 posted on 10/05/2006 7:03:23 AM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: NinoFan
I think having cybersex during an important house vote would be enough to make me resign.

Well getting a BJ while discussing troop deployments on the phone with congressional leaders wasn't enough to make another individual resign either.

1,302 posted on 10/05/2006 7:03:56 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
That would depend on the content of the exchanges before the 18th bday compared to the exchanges after the bday.

The content was disturbing enough to the child for him to say Foley should "slow down" because he was not yet 18. There were some pretty sick things said in the messages posted before the boy turned 18.

1,303 posted on 10/05/2006 7:04:12 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
Unless I'm getting the E-Mail and IM Dudettes mixed up, the one that said he will have to wait till Feb is actually 21 now meaning he was 18 Feb 2003, 2 months prior to the 1st known IM or E-Mail? I maybe wrong on this because I'm totally confused with the MSM calling everything E-Mail.
1,304 posted on 10/05/2006 7:04:18 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Kleon
There are IMs from before the boy turned 18 (he clearly states this in the logs) that are far from innocent.

I see no proof of that. And much of what we have is from Brian Ross who has already demostrated that he is trying to deceive us on this. And some of the 'original' emails from different sources have been edited but doctored to look like originals (different formatting, names blacked out in marker with a photocopy look that probably came from Photoshop).

I guess for some people, Republicans are guilty until proven innocent. And the media are just the good good friends of the GOP and would never cook up a phony scandal to swing an election. It used to be that those folks were Democrats. Now we have those same people in the Republican party. And here at FR.
1,305 posted on 10/05/2006 7:04:47 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Kleon

"There are IMs from before the boy turned 18 (he clearly states this in the logs) that are far from innocent."

I agree. The Page that WAS NOT underage and was not a page at the time of the IM was far from innocent. He enjoyed the attention and deliberately encouraged Foley to continue the dialog as the page knew he had hit the jackpot.

He is a opportunist that saved IMs to use to further his career by blackmailing politicians.


1,306 posted on 10/05/2006 7:07:04 AM PDT by listenhillary (Islam = Religion of peace. If you say otherwise, we'll kill you!)
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To: listenhillary
Yes, it IS depressing when all this crap comes out and the usual pack of vultures (Kris Math-hues, Olberman, ABCNBCCBSPBS, etc.) jump on the story.

However, this whole thing (and all the other over-blown scandals) is having a 'Reverse Effect' on me: I'm sooooooooo angry at the sheer, blatant, no pretence of impartiality, in-your-face, assistance of the MSM in pumping this $h!t onto the American airwaves.

1,307 posted on 10/05/2006 7:10:23 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: listenhillary

No network not even fox is talking about this... MSNBC had what they called an IM that said the person foley was talking too admitted to being under 18.... But what does that mean... Was he in fact 18 the next day... who knows... but the media is not biting on this.


1,308 posted on 10/05/2006 7:10:45 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (The More Americans that take 911 personally the better served we will all be.)
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To: tomnbeverly

Big media might have it's nosed rubbed in this over the next 24 hours. Patience.


1,309 posted on 10/05/2006 7:11:49 AM PDT by listenhillary (Islam = Religion of peace. If you say otherwise, we'll kill you!)
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To: VRWCmember

Either way... 18 or almost 18 is far from 16 unless we are talking about multiple party IM's ... Who knows... anyway MSM is not biting on this 18 year old headline.


1,310 posted on 10/05/2006 7:12:13 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (The More Americans that take 911 personally the better served we will all be.)
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To: tobyhill
Unless I'm getting the E-Mail and IM Dudettes mixed up, the one that said he will have to wait till Feb is actually 21 now meaning he was 18 Feb 2003, 2 months prior to the 1st known IM or E-Mail?

You have it right. Despite Brian Ross' deliberate falsification of the thing.
1,311 posted on 10/05/2006 7:12:38 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: tomnbeverly

Istook aide may be victim in page scandal ("Victim" Hires Major Defense Lawyer?)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713970/posts


1,312 posted on 10/05/2006 7:13:53 AM PDT by listenhillary (Islam = Religion of peace. If you say otherwise, we'll kill you!)
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To: Pukin Dog
I use Ben and Jerry's Vanilla, though.

You should quit supporting those northeastern socialists and use Blue Bell instead.

1,313 posted on 10/05/2006 7:13:53 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: listenhillary

The MSM including FOX will slowly start turning the story over the next couple weeks so as people can forget the original "scoop" and then they can presume to take the high road.


1,314 posted on 10/05/2006 7:15:58 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: bnelson44
Cool it, Norm. You and I both know the kid was under 18 duing some of the IMs.

And we also know that the the IMs that are the basis of the controversy occurred after the "kid" turned 18.

1,315 posted on 10/05/2006 7:21:46 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: All
CNN DEVELOPING STORY (Barf alert)..

Tyson Vivian says that when he was a Page in 1996/97 Congressman Foley didn't speak to him. But shortly after he left Capital Hill Foley inniated contact with instant messages. He said he was 17 at the time, a minor. It went on for years. Gulp! 40 to 50 instant messages.

After he was 19, he was invited to Foley's house and brought another former Page with him to make sure "things didn't get out of hand"..

The other former Page, Josh Abrons tells CNN he doesn't recall alcholol being present.

Vivian and Abrons say "nothing inappropriate happened"..

There's more...but bottom line is they didn't report this contact to authorities, but they sure weren't concerned about things being "inappropriate" enough to stay away from him!

Tyson Vivian tells CNN he is a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT...Abron considers himself "INDEPENDENT"..

sw

1,316 posted on 10/05/2006 7:21:56 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: jrooney
So this means that the Democrats, who are supposedly so much more tolerant than Republicans, have

* Outed a homosexual without his consent
* Called Him a pervert
* Called his relationship with a consenting adult a crime
* Called for his resignation and that of his superior over his sexual preference.

Hmmmm....sounds like the Rats are discriminating against homosexuals.

1,317 posted on 10/05/2006 7:23:38 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (There's a fine, fine line between a stoat and a sporkweasel.)
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To: VRWCmember

There is a huge difference in the MSM spinning this as 16 year old and pedophilia and a close to or at 18 year old which is nothing more then a Bill Clinton. One is a crime the other isn't the only thing good about it is the Republican Resigned in Disgrace and the Former President lied to America and shot us all the bird....


1,318 posted on 10/05/2006 7:24:38 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (The More Americans that take 911 personally the better served we will all be.)
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To: tobyhill
I noticed that on several DNC media outlets this morning the operative term is "Teen" instead of "Minor".

Yet none of them explain the reason for the subtle change in terms, they fail mention Brian Ross was called out on his lie that the IMs were with a minor.

{ I defer the defense of the sexualy confused Foley/Studds and confused sexuality to (D)s}

1,319 posted on 10/05/2006 7:25:07 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: tomnbeverly
No network not even fox is talking about this...

Fox News is starting to expose the StopSexPredators.com website affiliations now. The rest will follow.
1,320 posted on 10/05/2006 7:25:51 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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