Posted on 10/04/2006 4:57:03 AM PDT by Perdogg
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a political conspiracy unravel as fast as this one that involves former representative Mark Foley.
Let’s recap.
1. On September 29th Foley is approached by ABC NEWS about salitious Instant Messages with a former page and abruptly resigns. Four days later he turns himself into rehab.
2. Through investigation by several bloggers, including yours truly, it is discovered that during the last few years, liberal watchdog group CREW may have had specific knowlede of the IM’s existance, and of Foley’s activities, and might have possibly been in possession corospondence between Rep. Foley and former page(s). Additionally a known “Republican Gay Outer”, Mike Rogers of Blog Active was found to have materially participated in the IM messaging of Foley and admitted to have been on a “campaign” to out Foley since at least as far back as March 2005, and specifically attempted to threaten Foley in January 2006, thus may be guilty of using threat or intimidation to influence a US Congressman’s vote on US legislation.
Yesterday Gateway Pundit uncovered that Mike Rogers had an a “partner” (although not known to be an accomplice at this point) in John Aravios of America’s Blog in a campaign against Foley as well. Gateway Pundit notes that there is no evidence that Aravios actually had specific evidence, but then holding evidence, and having knowledge of someone holding it are still crimes.
World Net Daily picked up on the story here, and puts together nicely what appears at this point to have been an orchestrated effort on the part of several leftwing activists to “pull the trigger” on this story just prior to midterm elections.
Additionally, while Mr. Foley appears by his resigning to have admitted to participating in IMing and emailing former pages, it’s not clear if all the recorded IM’s are authentic. The FBI, which is looking into the matter, as I mentioned here, will use specific forensic analysist to determine if in fact the corospondence discovered so far is in fact valid. Already it has been discovered that several IM’s may have in fact been tampered with.
At this point it’s not know the full involvement of those - or of others yet to be discovered - is. However, I do know that the specific focus of the FBI at this point is to determine who knew about Foley’s activities, when they knew it and specifically who withheld evidence in what may be a Federal Crime. Yet like in many investigations, there is sometimes the uncovering of other crimes that takes place. It should be said at this point that the attempt to attempt to extort or influence, or threaten a US congressman, in order to infuence legislation, or an election is a Federal Crime, and if in fact principals were involved in such an orchestrated plan it will be discovered.
Again, I must point out that even as a constituant of former respresentitive Foley, I detest his actions, and do not condone and accept them in anyway. In fact I support his prosecution if applicable laws have been broken. But again, those who particpated before the fact in the “outing” of Foley, seem to have had at this point specific knowledge of his activities and if proven at the least are guilty of conspriracy to withhold evidence, and obstruction of justice.
We shall see as the day(s) progress.
Hastert already admitted that he knew about the earlier emails. If you dont think asking a male page for his picture is creepy than I dont know what to tell you. Why didnt Shimkus as head of the subcommittee dealing with pages tell anyone else on the committee that he had the emails and that he was going to go talk to Foley? I havent seen any indication that any DEm congressional offical knew anything. What is your offering of proof?
lol. that's a new one. I heard hastert's statement on the radio...sounded right to me. It's the talk radio/blogosphere losing their marbles.
whatever you say, atomic sheep.
This shows them for the absolute hypcrites they are. They don't give a darn about these pages, because most liberals think teenagers have a right to consent.
The Dems arent the only one's who won't shut up about it. What political junkies need to realize is America is sick of this crap.
Um....duh! Is that supposed to be an interesting point? Ok, so they're hypocrites.
I may have been here only 6 months but I have heard from many many freepers how trolls signed up on these threads early on. Anyone with a brain larger than a pea can see on any given day trolls slither through these threads. Not all these trolls have recent sign on dates.
Where are you coming up with that. My point was not that Hastert was guilty and that he should go. I think he should stay because to go would be an admission that he did something wrong and would kill us at this late day. The point I have been making is its stupid to waste time trying to prove that Foley's outing was a Dem "October Surprise" and that top level Dems knew more than Hastert. Unless Pelosi or Reid were personally involved (highly unlikely when everyone in Washington knows about plausible deniability) then all you are left with is a case of Dem operatives being smarter and more viscious than Republicans. Apparently they must have been up against some of those on this thread.
Campaign ads can be cranked out in less than a day. I dont think their airing now proves anything. 104 posted on 10/04/2006 12:05:30 PM EDT by Dave S [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] >
Wow. It's bigger than even I realized. Funny thing is, this Foley crap won't change my vote one bit, and I'm pretty sure my congressman has a better conservative record than fag boy foley. Anyway, it's just election time, I guess. Good thing the baseball playoffs are on, I can just tune this stuff out. I think that's part of my disconnect with this story. As one of the 298,000,000 Americans who DON'T watch cable news, I don't really see it as a big deal. I'm not in the media bubble.
My cover is blown...
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I can see your concern. The statement is a stand alone, and does not need "but" to tie it to anything. In actually, the next word in the statement is "and".
"Foley is a dirtbag and his behavior will not be tolerated on either side of the aisle AND so are the people that potentially endangered a child by with-holding this information in order to gain political advantage in an unethical manner. Foley has been dealt with by the Republicans. His career is over; unlike democratic politicians Franks and Stubbs who had similar or worse problems. Now it is time to deal the rest of the people involved in this mess".
Oh I am quite aware of that. But trying to influence or ask others to move on, no story here when most freepers do not appear to have that view is something I will respond to. I am not moving on and no else should that wants further investigation done into this. For those that do not, why in the hell are they hanging here on this thread???? If they do not like the attention this story is getting here, it is them that should move on.
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