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My fellow Americans: A liberal learns it's not so wrong to be right [MSM trolls FR]
Seattle Times ^ | October 3, 2006 | By Mark Rahner

Posted on 10/03/2006 1:40:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

"Tootsie," "Black Like Me," "Alias" — pop culture's filled with daring men and women who alter their identities to infiltrate different groups.

Now Seattle-based NPR personality John Moe has come out with a virtual "Crying Game" of political books: "Conservatize Me: How I Tried to Become a Righty with the Help of Richard Nixon, Sean Hannity, Toby Keith and Beef Jerky" (William Morrow, $24.95). His hilarious "experiment": shed the trappings of his liberal life and spend a month immersed in conservative culture — or rather, stereotypes — with the help of a power suit, puffy flag T-shirt and the music of Toby Keith.

I debriefed the radio commentator, 38, as he was settling back into his old life, over frou-frou coffee drinks.

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Q: You watched "conservative" movies?

A: I went online to freerepublic.com, which is a highly conservative, militantly so, Web site, and posted something saying "Raised a liberal, wanting to find out what movies conservatives enjoy, wanting to see if there are movies that could change my mind. Whattaya got?"

I came away from that with a bunch of suggestions. So I went to Blockbuster and got "Red Dawn," "Stand and Deliver," "Dirty Harry," "Forrest Gump," all three "Lord of the Rings" movies and "Patton." And then I would watch those in my down time as I was flying to the Nixon museum in L.A. or the Toby Keith concert in Indianapolis and do write-ups on their persuasiveness

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To: Steve Van Doorn
"Lord of the Rings" was none political.

On the surface it seems that way but if you have read the Trilogy and really think about the War between Mordor and Gondor the alliances they each form it is easy to see historical allegories for the USSR and USA in the past or for that matter Islam and the West today.

Then to put it more simply just drawing the simple sharp line between Good and Evil today is political.

21 posted on 10/03/2006 2:51:44 AM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: bad company; rogermonroe

I have changedd my mind. This guy said he was a liberal and never posted in any other thread.


22 posted on 10/03/2006 3:02:53 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Jim Robinson
conservatives as I understood them are very interested in sacred texts — the Bible, the Constitution. These things are locked down

One of the few things he said that is right on to me. Does this mean in contrast that the liberals are very interested in texts that are unhinged and unsacred. Boy, it show seems.

So then I thought, what are some of the more friendly towns I've been in? And they were like rural Montana, rural Arizona, these really small places that are really conservative places. OK, where have people been the biggest jerks to me? Seattle, San Francisco, Portland, Los Angeles, safely blue state kind of regions. So it was a little dissonant.

I think this speaks for itself. This is probably dissonant to those that demonize conservatives and Republicans, especially 'all those Bush supporters' that talk continually about murder of the man who protects them hourly as commander in chief. To us conservatives this is a NO BRAINER.

But it's a really powerful thing to just shut up and listen to somebody who has ideas that are different than your own.

We conservatives/Republicans have been listening to these liberals shooting their mouths off for years--mostly unchallenged. Welcome John Moe to us and a slice of our lives--intelligent and powerful people that you and yours relegate to stupid, backward ass, simpleton cardboard cut outs. Nothing could be further from the truth.

23 posted on 10/03/2006 3:04:01 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: HairOfTheDog

Ping!


24 posted on 10/03/2006 3:04:07 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: GOP Poet

show=sure


25 posted on 10/03/2006 3:04:30 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I would say Braveheart is about the best conservative movie.

The writer for Braveheart, Randall Wallace, is an amazing writer and man. He wrote the hymn at the end of We were soldiers which he both wrote and executive produced. The song is at the end of the film I believe and is gorgeous and just a tear jerker to listen to. I cry every time.

He is a wonderful talent as a writer and a generous man. He graduated from Duke University with a major in religion.

26 posted on 10/03/2006 3:20:03 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Jim Robinson
It's telling that they, jokingly, mentioned Adam Smith. I remember first hearing about Adam Smith in college where the professor depicted him as being the forefather of evil, unbridled capitalism. We never did read anything by Smith not even in the one econ class I took. It would probably be very edifying to libs to actually read Smith.

Concerning my own transformation from lib to conservative (a process of many decades), I regard it as somewhat going from darkness into light ala St. Paul. Naturally libs firmly believe they have everything figured out. The truth is they know very little about what makes America tick.

27 posted on 10/03/2006 3:24:45 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2
Concerning my own transformation from lib to conservative (a process of many decades), I regard it as somewhat going from darkness into light ala St. Paul. Naturally libs firmly believe they have everything figured out. The truth is they know very little about what makes America tick.

Wonderful analogy. It is so true, as are your words that follow it.

28 posted on 10/03/2006 3:29:14 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: eastforker; Jim Robinson
Sorry Jim but GHW Bush did himself in. His thousand points of light turned a lot of people off. Also, his inability to get on a personal level with the American people like W has been able to do.

He also just didn't campaign in 1992. I've never understood that. It was as if he was throwing the election. He went through the motions, but his heart was clearly not in it.

I've always wondered if Clinton or one of his henchmen had some dirt on him.

29 posted on 10/03/2006 3:33:01 AM PDT by Allegra (Serve Fresh Spinach at the Next DNC Gathering)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I would say Braveheart is about the best conservative movie.


It was very well done - pity it was also completely historically innacurate and biased.


30 posted on 10/03/2006 3:43:12 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: anechoicroom.blogspot.com
P.S. Who is Toby Keith?

for starters, an admitted life long Democrat...

an Okie

a vigorous supporter of our troops

a friend and business partner of Barry Switzer..

Oh... and a "mooreon" ;).... only those with severe local knowledge will "get" that one....

31 posted on 10/03/2006 3:48:13 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: GOP Poet
My own feeling is what most separates libs from conservatives is not one particular issue but a belief in the ultimate goodness of government over the belief that government should be the last alternative to solving problems. When Reagan was elected and made his comments about government being a negative influence, I was offended.

Nevertheless at the time I had a lot of conservative beliefs. In fact a majority of my stances were conservative. For instance I believed in a strong military, was anti-abortion, anti-affirmative action, and anti-radical feminism. But I believed in government and it's ability to solve the nation's problems. I can see Reagan's wisdom now, but at the time decades of leftist influence had left me with no confidence in the idea that most peoples problems are personally created and had little to do with government "solutions".

So to me if you can explain and convince a person that his life's destiny is in his hands and not the government's, you have created a conservative. Not that he or she has to agree with every particular issue or idea, but that they realize that government can never make a person happy. They have to do it themselves.

32 posted on 10/03/2006 3:53:35 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: gridlock
I can't name one conservative movie....A liberal movie is any movie that seems to be pushing a liberal agenda with political correct undertones.....This guy seems like an idiot
33 posted on 10/03/2006 3:54:50 AM PDT by Defendingliberty (www.gulagthebear.com)
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To: eastforker

His thousand points of light turned a lot of people off



"a kinder,gentler nation" was a slap at Reagan and Conservatives.


34 posted on 10/03/2006 4:08:45 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush II --> Appeasing Islam for 27 years)
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To: darbymcgill

I wuzz just keeding. I listen to a lot of music (it's my thing). And my taste hasn't changed much since moving from left, to center, to right. Folk, pop, rock, jazz. And I play Dolly, and Jessie Colter, Bobbie Gentry, Don Williams, etc. But I get more than a litle sick, when I hear the Dixie Chicks ;-)


35 posted on 10/03/2006 4:23:58 AM PDT by anechoicroom.blogspot.com
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Good article & post. Interesting to look back at old threads. Thanks to all linkers.


36 posted on 10/03/2006 4:29:46 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Nope, Mel's treatment of the American Revolution showed what
conservatism and freedom means much better, I think.


37 posted on 10/03/2006 4:33:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Nathan Zachary

According to the lefties, maybe he HAS the ring!


38 posted on 10/03/2006 4:34:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Liberalism is "I want....", "I feel...." , "We need to have a law for.....", "We need to fund.......", "We need diversity of.....", "Everyone (apparently, except conservatives) ought to be able to vote....", "Illegals enhance America...." and on and on and on and on....
39 posted on 10/03/2006 4:38:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BamaAndy

Don't ever believe that, even for a second.....


40 posted on 10/03/2006 4:38:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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