Cheers!
Posted on 10/01/2006 8:58:50 AM PDT by the Real fifi
Pardon me, but I smell something very peculiar in the way we have learned of the disgrace of Rep. Mark Foley.
The email scandal which led to the resignation of the Republican Congressman is reverberating throughout the capital and the nation, as Democrats attempt to capitalize on bad news for Republicans. The seamiest of the released emails, which Foley has not denied, are right up there with Rhodes Scholar and Illinois Democratic Congressman Mel Reynolds’ taped phone conversations lusting for 15 year old Catholic school girls in their uniforms
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Gay activists are doing a fine job making it your (and everyone's) business.
This isn't a problem that goes away simply because you're "broadminded" and refuse to consider it your "business."
I'm not willing to let House leadership off that easily.
They knew that they had someone who crossed the line, and they just took him at his word that he hadn't done more? Why didn't they bother to investigate him? When kids are involved, certainly a cautious approach is justified.
If they had, these IMs would undoubtedly surfaced. The pages were being warned to stay away from this guy - this guy's preference wasn't exactly a secret around the Capitol.
"What did the Dems know and when did they know it?"
They knew plenty and some of us are working to find out what! We can not sit back and let the dems drag the whole republican party through the mud on this, when it is highly likely that they and their operatives set the whole thing up because they knew Foley would fall for it!
If you read the sexual IM's, the 'kid' is not exactly pushing Foley away..now is he? Blogactive.com(venemous gay lib site) has some posts going all the way back to March of last year making accusations about Mark Foley being gay and seeking "help" to bring him down because he will not come out of the closet. (rolling eyes)
Then in a post yesterday on that site, the owner of the site said he had a hand in Foley's downfall!! Oh really?
What did he know about all of this beforehand and exactly what did he do?
Now they are claiming that L. Graham gave somebody a BJ at Union Station and they are going to bring him down this week.....LOL
It is a filthy little site (with nothing to back up their claims other than the gay rumor mill), so don't go there unless you can stomach it.
I wonder if this might have anything to do with Kolbe's decision not to run in '06 instead of the immigration issue. Look at the timeline of when he made his surprise decision - just about the time that the Democrats were laying the plan to take out Foley if you follow what Feldman is saying.
Posted by SC33 On News/Activism 12/06/2005 12:29:44 PM PST · 42 replies · 720+ views Human Events Online ^ | December 2, 2005 | John Gizzi The mood on Capitol Hill is not a pleasant one,” Rep. Jim Kolbe (R.-Ariz.) said, explaining to reporters his surprise decision to retire from Congress.
"If they had, these IMs would undoubtedly surfaced. The pages were being warned to stay away from this guy - this guy's preference wasn't exactly a secret around the Capitol."
Hope you don't mind if I answer your question.
How would the IM's have surfaced if they did not surface until friday when ABC ran the story about the creepy but not sexual email to the first page? Understand that the perverted IM's where to other pages that came forward AFTER ABC RAN THE STORY ON THURSDAY!
Great article by Clarice Friedman, as usual she nails it.
George Soros is an international criminal who has been convicted and expelled from at leasat three other countries. We should not sit idly by and let him continue to undermine America. Don't be lulled into self-righteous indignation and miss the bigger picture. Put this crook in the electric chair.
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Try reading the article. According to the article, the content of the emails was not provided to the Republican leadership, only a description of the emails being "overly friendly".
This fact is huge, because it means there is no story of complicity or cover-up by the Republican leadership.
The House should have interviewed current/former pages who Foley had dealings with.
They could have gotten the IMs direct from the sources.
Cheers!
So, here's a "stupid" page answering the email of a perv. And the page "CONTINUES" to talk to the perv. This isn't a 10 year old kid and these pages are supposedly among the brightest.
I think you're being unfair to the page. In situations like this, what often occurs:
1. The intial email (or other contact) probably doesn't seem too inappropriate, and the young recipient usually feels flattered and special. This kid wanted a political career - so without being sure, he's not going to cut off a contact with a sitting congressman.
2. Communications start to seem a bit strange, but the kid convinces himself he must be wrong. This is a congressman/priest/other respected authority.
3. The recipient can no longer pretend it's innocuous, and now worries about what to do. For females (and probably males) they feel a bit dirty and wonder if they have done anything to encourage such advances.
4. Cuts off contact or reports situation to someone who will ensure that contact is cut.
I've seen this more often with male authority and female recipient, and that's often the sequence. I particularly remember a med student and a very famous medical faculty member.
And of course, my Daily Political Limerick on it.
Cheers!
Try reading my posts. You're on the late freight.
Once more:All Hastert has was the onnocuous stuff. The boy's parents refused to allow them to go further because they wanted to respect their son's privacy. They asked only that someone speak to Foley and get him to cut off communication. They did so and he promised to have no further contact with the boy.
If you want to be pig headed, it's your head. OTOH, if you want to be fair you have to acknowledge that neither the newspapers which had these first emails nor the the Republican leadership had any reason to bury the story. They didn't go further with it because there was no way to do so.
Even people charged with "overly friendly" emailing have rights, too.
There was not a hint of any behavior which couldn't and wasn't explained away as innocent.
You have a point there, but you forget that the first page's parents did not want it pursued,Foley lied, his staff gave a reasonable excuse at the time, and it is not the HOUSE that is tasked with looking into these matters. It is the Clerk of the House from what I can tell.
Once more:All Hastert has was the onnocuous stuff. The boy's parents refused to allow them to go further because they wanted to respect their son's privacy. They asked only that someone speak to Foley and get him to cut off communication. They did so and he promised to have no further contact with the boy.
They didn't go further with it because there was no way to do so. Even people charged with "overly friendly" emailing have rights, too.
Sorry, I can't agree with you on this one. "Overly friendly" means cause for concern. I can appreciate the parents not wanting their son involved, and it only means the leadership couldn't do anything further with respect to this one page. Any administrator worth his salt would worry that there was more, and would check with current and past pages to see if there was a pattern of problem behavior. If not, then OK, it's just a little strange and you can let it go. But you must check first to protect other pages.
If you want to be pig headed, it's your head. OTOH, if you want to be fair you have to acknowledge that neither the newspapers which had these first emails nor the the Republican leadership had any reason to bury the story.
I guess I'm pigheaded, but I feel I can very fairly say the leadership could have seen the bad publicity as a good reason to bury the story.
There was not a hint of any behavior which couldn't and wasn't explained away as innocent.
True, if you're looking for a way to "explain it away." If you're looking for the facts of the matter, you'd interview other pages.
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