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Oliver Stone: I'm Ashamed of U.S.
NewsMax ^ | 29 September 2006

Posted on 09/28/2006 9:59:45 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

Filmmaker Oliver Stone blasted President Bush Thursday, saying he has "set America back 10 years." Stone added that he is "ashamed for my country" over the war in Iraq and the U.S. policies in response to the attacks of Sept. 11.

"We have destroyed the world in the name of security," Stone told journalists at the San Sebastian International Film Festival prior to a screening of his latest movie, "World Trade Center." The film tells the true story of the survival and rescue of two policemen who were trapped in the rubble of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, after they went to help people escape.

"From Sept. 12 on, the incident (the attacks) was politicized and it has polarized the entire world," said Stone. "It is a shame because it is a waste of energy to see that the entire world five years later is still convulsed in the grip of 9/11.

"It's a waste of energy away from things that do matter which is poverty, death, disease, the planet itself and fixing things in our own homes rather than fighting wars with others. Mr. Bush has set America back 10 years, maybe more."

The director of blockbusters such as "Platoon," and "JFK" said the U.S. reaction to the attacks was out of proportion.

"If there had been a better sense of preparation, if we had a leadership that was more mature," he said. "We did not fight back in the same way that the British fought the IRA or the Spanish government fought the Basques here. Terrorism is a manageable action. It can be lived with," said Stone.

Stone rejected allegations that U.S. authorities may have known about the attacks in advance and said the real conspiracy came after.

"I think that conspiracy-mongering on 9/11 is a waste of time," he said. "The far greater conspiracy occurred after 9/11 when basically a neo-cabal inside our government hijacked policy and went to war. That was as broad a conspiracy as we can get and it was about 20, 30 people. That's all, they took over and all these books are coming out and they are pointing it out," said Stone.

"This war on Iraq is a disaster. I'm disgraced. I'm ashamed for my country," he said. "I'm also ashamed that America has attacked itself with its constitutional breakdowns. I'm deeply ashamed."

In the United States' favor, Stone posited that it's not responsible for all the world's problems. "You can't see that the United States is responsible for all the evil in the world because you can see so many dictators and so many bestial acts all over the world now. .... There is something in the human heart, the international human heart, that is evil," said Stone.

"That's the evil that turns its mind and ears on humanity and is able to say `I can kill a person in the name of God or religion.' This is not a human being, this a fanatic. And I fear that fanaticism is the result of our overreaction to 9/11," said Stone.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; ashamed; commies; georgewbush; idiot; iraq; oliverstone; terrorism; us
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To: Aussie Dasher
"That's the evil that turns its mind and ears on humanity and is able to say `I can kill a person in the name of God or religion.' This is not a human being, this a fanatic. And I fear that fanaticism is the result of our overreaction to 9/11," said Stone.

Umm..this looks a lil twisted to me Mr. Stone. The fanaticism came first, not our reaction to 9/11. THEY are the ones killing in the name of religion, not US! You are just one more infidel they wouldn't mind taking out in the name of Allah and this country is trying to help you keep your head (that thing on top of your shoulders that they have a nasty habit of disconnecting at the neck).

61 posted on 09/28/2006 10:30:41 PM PDT by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

So freaking leave you lunatic!


62 posted on 09/28/2006 10:35:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dallas59
Screw him. I won't buy his 9/11 movie.

Buy it? I refuse even to THINK of it!

... DAMN!

63 posted on 09/28/2006 10:36:02 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: kcvl; Aussie Dasher; All

It be shame for Ollie to see his hero finally kick the bucket LOL!

Now I watching Scarface on DVD now I realize he was stone when he wrote that script

All that Coke Al Pachino snorted anddd set up that Big a*** gun to be his Little friend LOL!

He was HIGH LOL!


64 posted on 09/28/2006 10:37:06 PM PDT by SevenofNine (I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The feeling's mutual...I'm ashamed of you, Ollie.


65 posted on 09/28/2006 10:40:23 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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I am ashamed that America has people like Oliver Stone. At least the Bush administration did something to attempt to prevent future deaths of Americans. All Oliver Stone did was exploit their deaths for profit by making a movie about it. The movie will likely be anti-american and a slap in the face to the victims of 9/11 (based on Stone's feelings towards America). I for one will not be watching it.


66 posted on 09/28/2006 10:42:01 PM PDT by PeterPatriot
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To: Aussie Dasher

And we're ashamed of you! Any questions?


67 posted on 09/28/2006 10:42:03 PM PDT by BamaGirl (The Framers Rule!)
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To: pcottraux
Uh...1996?

1996...a year of blissful ignorance of what al Qaeda was up to. Yep, that's the ticket. Let's return to a day when we buried our heads in the sand and cheered on a president who was diddling with the interns. It was the Golden Age.

68 posted on 09/28/2006 10:42:23 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

He is full of shame and sh-t...


69 posted on 09/28/2006 10:45:02 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: Aussie Dasher
"From Sept. 12 on, the incident (the attacks) was politicized and it has polarized the entire world," said Stone. "It is a shame because it is a waste of energy to see that the entire world five years later is still convulsed in the grip of 9/11.
Ya, we should have adopted your "Afterschool Special" method of dealing with jihadists. Had we adopted your way, they'd be nut-less wonders like yourself and we wouldn't have a problem now.

Face it, Sammy, you have no clue how to deal with thugs. And we'd all deserve to be beheaded if we took your "feelings" approach.

Idiot!

70 posted on 09/28/2006 10:46:01 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (It's in the Koran! Submit or Die)
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To: Aussie Dasher
I hate how newsmax manufactures it's headlines. No where in this article did they quote Oliver Stone Saying he was "Ashamed Of Us" is the headline would indicate. Sure the sentiment may be there, but he didn't say that.

I'm no defender of Oliver Stone by any means, but that's just cheap, and I see this website doing stuff like this all the time. Should it be considered 'fake but accurate'?
71 posted on 09/28/2006 10:47:09 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Aussie Dasher
If Bush would not have gone into Iraq (remember now, everyone was saying that Iraq was dangerous, Saddam was dangerous, that he supported and trained terrorists, that he was trying to get nukes, that he was building up his other WMDs, Democrats, Republicans, everyone just about was saying this before Bush even became POTUS) and Saddam had given or sold some nerve gas or other chemical or biological or anthrax or whatever, and, it was used on U.S. soil by terrorists.............say, a subway or city or large building.............

Stone and the rest of the left wing socialists would be screaming from the rooftops that Bush sat on his hands, didn't do enough, had a chance to stop it but didn't, didn't heed all the warnings and all the red flags, and should be removed from office for not protecting the citizens, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah................on and on for ever and ever.

These people are like chihuahuas, cute sometimes, but usually a big pain in the rear.............

Stone wouldn't last a week trying to walk in Bush's shoes.............

P.S. May God bless our troops and troops from other countries that are helping fight the WOT

P.P.S. Death to the MSM

72 posted on 09/28/2006 10:48:48 PM PDT by AwesomePossum
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To: Aussie Dasher
Oliver Stone, Hugo Chavez and Satan: "We all agree, we hate George Bush, America and anything that is good."

You have to be crazy to take these people seriously, they are a joke on humanity. Has he always had this ego problem to go with his ignorance of history and truth?

73 posted on 09/28/2006 10:48:49 PM PDT by bwc (Big Centralized Government is turning us into just another clone of the European States)
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To: pandoraou812
'I think he ought to live outside of the USA."

Maybe he could move to some country in the Middle East and spread his touchy, feely, do good stuff. I'm sure they will agree with him.

74 posted on 09/28/2006 10:50:25 PM PDT by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: KoRn
I concur. NewsMax doesn't have to invent outrage like they do. I've always second-source everything I read from them. They're an embarrassment.
75 posted on 09/28/2006 10:52:49 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (It's in the Koran! Submit or Die)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Some insights from Oliver Stone:

"Nationalism and patriotism are the two most evil forces that I know of in this century or in any century and cause more wars and more death and more destruction to the soul and to human life than anything else."

"The Cold War has been the most irritating thing to me personally. Throughout my life we've been in the grip of militarism and military budgets and a mindset that dictates a war on Communism, and that's a drain on the national energy. The real enemy is nationalism and patriotism."

"I thought it was a helluva thriller. JFK's murder marked the end of a dream, the end of a concept of idealism that I associate with my youth. Race war, Vietnam, Watergate. If JFK had lived, the combat situation in Vietnam would never have occurred."

"If I were George Bush, I would shoot myself. I think he lives in fear of drinking again. There's nothing more dangerous for America than an ex-alcoholic President who tells you to believe in Jesus."

"This attack was pure chaos, and chaos is energy. All great changes have come from people or events that were initially misunderstood, and seemed frightening, like madmen." - On the September 11th attacks

"I believed in the John Wayne image of America. My father was a Republican, and he taught me that it was a good war because the Communists were the bad guys and we had to fight them. And then there was the romanticism of the Second World War as it appeared in the films we mentioned. Obviously, the reality was very different."


76 posted on 09/28/2006 10:54:45 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Dear Ollie


Drop Dead please !

We don't need your ilk around here


77 posted on 09/28/2006 10:56:53 PM PDT by Dov in Houston
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To: Aussie Dasher
Note that he waited until after his WTC movie finished its American theatrical run to throw this screed out there. Back when the movie was premiering, he was quiet and respectful.

Not just an America-hater but a phony.

78 posted on 09/28/2006 10:57:06 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I am too. We can't make a great movie any more.


79 posted on 09/28/2006 10:57:54 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step

9/11 has been called a disaster, a tragedy, an evil attack and I've heard several arguments against these terms (disaster is for a natural event, etc.).

Now I guess it only rates as an incident.


80 posted on 09/28/2006 11:00:02 PM PDT by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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