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Children handcuffed in police drug raid (and SOP of shooting the family dog)
Albany Times Union ^

Posted on 09/28/2006 5:26:29 PM PDT by Sir Gawain

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To: Pravious

They're using the Reno playbook...


281 posted on 09/29/2006 9:50:38 AM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Sir Gawain

how soon before brady wants to ban cop killer dogs.


282 posted on 09/29/2006 9:54:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EdReform

When I'm finished with my current website project, I might set that up. I mean, I'm not about to go storming into zoos and setting animals free. But these cop vs kitten / kangaroo boxing stories make me mad enough to want to seriously brand these monsters and put their addresses on the web for all to see. They'd probably sue me, but it would almost be worth it.


283 posted on 09/29/2006 9:54:53 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Sir Gawain
I wonder if it would be possible to get a search warrant, serve it after the allegedly dangerous 18 yr old had left the residence, and do it in broad daylight after the children were in school?

But of course that wouldn't be any fun for the thugs would it?

284 posted on 09/29/2006 9:56:21 AM PDT by Protagoras (Billy only tried to kill Bin Laden, he actually succeeded with Ron Brown and Vince Foster.)
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To: metmom

YES

It is also normal to use children for dealing since they get juvenile records. Which is why many are tried as an adult at 16 upon special motion by the prosecution.


285 posted on 09/29/2006 9:56:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sir Gawain
"The moral of the story is: If you don't want officers barging into your house with their guns drawn, don't let drug dealers stay with you and deal drugs out of your apartment," Frisoni said.

Does not seem very complicated except to users and sympathizers.

286 posted on 09/29/2006 9:57:44 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: Wristpin

Nazi Germany had a low crime rate as well. Maybe we should emulate them.


287 posted on 09/29/2006 9:58:18 AM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: DougSc
Don't sell drugs!!!

Wow. Don't say that in Walgreens or CVS. They will think you are some kind of nut.

288 posted on 09/29/2006 9:58:32 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: mysterio

I don't like cats but I won't flame you. That "cop" is a vile person.


289 posted on 09/29/2006 10:00:03 AM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: pandoraou812
I often wonder why we don't bomb the opium fields during this war.

You mean like the ones in Afghanistan? It's been long established that segments of our "government" profit from the drug trade, otherwise the borders would be protected and fields would be burning.

290 posted on 09/29/2006 10:03:51 AM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: verity

"The moral of the story is: If you don't want officers barging into your house with their guns drawn, don't let drug dealers stay with you and deal drugs out of your apartment," Frisoni said.
Does not seem very complicated except to users and sympathizers."

You missed a few other do's and don'ts to protect yourself from criminal assaults like these.

Also don't have any kind of gun knowingly or unknowingly that the BATF don't think you should. And don't owe the IRS and not pay up. And don't find your home mistaken for another's. And don't mistake the swat team bursting into your home in the middle of the night for some street thugs who invade homes in the same manner shouting police!


291 posted on 09/29/2006 10:17:17 AM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: takenoprisoner

Have you been "invaded" or are you one of those libertines?


292 posted on 09/29/2006 10:20:21 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: streetpreacher

You mean like the ones in Afghanistan? It's been long established that segments of our "government" profit from the drug trade, otherwise the borders would be protected and fields would be burning.

I think you're right.


293 posted on 09/29/2006 10:21:31 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: spunkets
I'm not reading any further;
just do us both a favor and stay out of my yard.

The pit would not bite you but I'm already provoked.

294 posted on 09/29/2006 10:23:32 AM PDT by norton
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To: verity

I make it a habit to learn from the experiences of others so that I can hopefully avoid a similar nightmare. Course there is always the chance my home could be mistaken for another's, or some informant has a vendetta against me (often, that is all it takes to create these assaults.)

Moreover, I have a sincere respect for the principles of individual liberty, the right to keep and bear arms, the right to be safe and secure in our persons and our property. Now if respecting those principles makes me a "Libertine," then where do I sign up? Because those principles deserve respect from law enforcement and all govt agencies. They are the basis of the law of the land.
And if "Libertines" are now the only one's demanding they be respected, and obviously you despise "Libertines," what does that make you and others like you?


295 posted on 09/29/2006 10:47:35 AM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: norton
" just do us both a favor and stay out of my yard. ... I'm already provoked.

Obviously.

"The pit would not bite you"

I'm sure he takes after his master.

296 posted on 09/29/2006 10:57:48 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: elkfersupper; Sir Gawain; mugs99; metmom; LibKill; John Williams; spunkets; Lurker; ...
Unfortunately for all of us, along with a lot of other things that one might do now or in the future in their house.......such as barbecue or use tobacco.

Funny you should mention BBQ. This happened to me and my son. In July of this year there was a burn ban here. I was in my front yard, (dirt because the grass all died, 60'+ from any house tree and such) around 5:30pm or so. Lit up the old grill, to cook some stakes. Guess what? Yep you guessed it! A few mins later... "Here comes the Gestapo!" Two squad cars came up to a screeching halt! They jumped out,(Yes, screeching halt, and they "jumped out" and at a almost run came over to me, and my 10 year old son, I'm surprised they didn't draw down on me) And told me:

Gestapo Squad Leader: "Don't you know there is a burn ban?"

Peon: Yes Sir I do, I'm cooking steaks on my grill. It says no camp fires, or burning of trash.

Gestapo Squad leader: "Well its against the law, there is a ban".

Peon: For me to cook something to eat?

Gestapo Squad leader: Well yes... (As he looks over at the other SS officer).

Peon: It is against the law for me to cook on a grill with nothing around that I can catch on fire? I have my water hose right there. What if I don't have any other way to cook something for my family to eat other than on this grill?

Gestapo Squad Leader: (Looking over at his buddy) Hang on...

They walk away from me, Talk for a few minutes. The leader gets into his petrol car, (calling for backup). (Now I'm getting pi**ed...)

All the while I'm getting ready to put in the foil wrapped onions, (onion, butter, salt, and black pepper).

Around 5-10 mins later, here comes the Fire Department. (Yep, the Fire Department) Two of 'em get out. They all talk and I over hear the good Guys, (Fire Department Men, their about 20' from me) telling the SS Squad Leader, that is is ok to cook on a gas grill or a charcoal grill. The SS Leader comes over to talk to me...

Gestapo Squad Leader: It is only ok to use a gas grill or a charcoal grill! (He's all next to himself).

Peon: OK, This is a charcoal grill!

Gestapo Squad Leader: Well your not using charcoal your using "Wood!"... (Haha, Yes, He did say that. Kind of funny, telling it now, It wasn't at the time).

Peon: "Give it another 5 mins. and it will be charcoal!" (The Fire Men laugh at that point...)

Gestapo Squad Leader: (He's kind of red at this point), Just make sure you put the fire out when your through!

He goes back over to the others. They talk for a few mins. They all start getting back in there strike force machines. As for the two Fire Men as they are walking to there Wagon they look over at me,(As I'm stirring up the "CHARCOALS!") They got sh*t eating grins, laughing and are shaking their heads, they wave to me, get in there wagon and everyone leaves.

Good thing the SS guys called in the UN Men (Fire Men), or it could have been bad. (Good eating that night)... : ) <<< me

297 posted on 09/29/2006 10:58:01 AM PDT by stopsign ("What great fortune for government, That people don't think"....Der Fuhrer. Hummm.... : ) <<< me)
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To: William Terrell
"how would you deal with the savaging of peaceful people because of an herb that grows wild all over the world, and was made illegal because of jazz musicians, over the objections of the AMA?"

What is this? drama? Is does like eatin' dandelions, or what?

298 posted on 09/29/2006 11:09:19 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: FreeReign

You were the one who mentioned minors.


299 posted on 09/29/2006 11:17:06 AM PDT by stands2reason (The map is not the territory - A. Korzybski)
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To: spunkets
What is this? drama? Is does like eatin' dandelions, or what?

Please rephrase, I didn't scan any sense out of it.

300 posted on 09/29/2006 11:17:45 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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