Children handcuffed in police drug raid (and SOP of shooting the family dog)

Albany Times Union ^

[elkfersupper]

Police dogs are used to help the police subjugate the citizens.

There, all fixed.

[pandoraou812]

There, all fixed...... Thanks thats just the word!!!( had to look it up but it works well)

[William Terrell]

Good point.

[MEGoody]

The cops did a SWAT team raid for a misdemeanor. Do you think that is RIGHT?

That's presuming the story contains all the facts, and I'm skeptical that it does. (The press always seems to spin a story to give more sympathy to the 'poor minority' while makeing the 'white bureaucrats' look as bad as possible.)

IF there were no priors, IF there was no evidence of violence in the past on the part of the individuals in the house, and IF the cops knew the offense in question was a misdemeanor going in, then no, it wasn't right.

[VRing]

"the dog has more rights then you if you are breaking the law."

More rights than me, period. Doesn't matter what I'm doing or where I'm at if I'm attacked by a police dog my only recourse is to take it. If the cop meant for the dog to seize me it's a "good use of force", if the dog just decides on it's own to chew on me it's mere negligence and the officer's qualified immunity kicks in.

[pandoraou812]

Very true and don't feed it bologna like my husband did! The cops and judge were not happy with him for breaking the dog's training

[phoenix0468]

WT and KYR, I am a bit taken aback by your responses. What I am hearing is, "It is OK for young people to use drugs and alcohol." If this is not what you are implying than I have misunderstood, but this is what I have been discussing. Young people, not adults. Young people have no reason to be using drugs or alcohol. It is neither productive nor does it help them "experience life".

There is an age limit for the use of alcohol because it is more likely that an adult, over the age of 21, will more responsibly use it than an adolescent.

Drugs such as cocaine, heroine, and their derivatives are destructive and exceedingly addictive. They have no health value whatsoever. Their use is dangerous to the user and society.

Marijuana is a substance I may not approve of, but I agree that it is no more harmless than alcohol. I may not agree with it's illegitimacy, but I would not agree with allowing minors, or young adults to have legal access to it either.

So, in conclusion. I will stand by my statement that experiencing life shouldn't include the use of drugs or alcohol. Our youth should be prepared to encounter these issues when they are adults, not as children.

[pandoraou812]

So, in conclusion. I will stand by my statement that experiencing life shouldn't include the use of drugs or alcohol. Our youth should be prepared to encounter these issues when they are adults, not as children.

I agree with you totally.

[Casio]

Police dogs are used to help the police. It may save them time to let the dog out and chase a person down or it can be to send a dog into a dangerous situation where a police officer could lose his life. Rather then have the cop dead they will send in the dog first. We had a stand off years ago in Bradley Beach where the criminal was holding hostages, the dog was sent in and he killed it. They had a big funeral over the dog if I am remembering correctly. My advice to you would be this......don't mess with a police dog. If one is ever set on you do not run. Most K9 officers love their dogs and they are as close to them as they are to their fellow officers. Hurt one and you are in big trouble. Thats just the way it is. I guess it comes down to this, the dog has more rights then you if you are breaking the law. The dog is considered an officer of the law it seems.

I know, I just don't think it is right. Much as I love dogs, animals in general, mankind drew a line thousands of years ago, that animal life is not the same as human life. This was not some arbitrary decision, but rather the way of nature, humans getting on the top of the foodchain. A dog being an "officer" is ridiculous, no matter how I look at it. I am otherwise a law abiding citizen, I never had an encounter with a police dog, or policeman for that matter (other than speeding tickets), so it isn't some personal issue for me.

Gabor

[Know your rights]

What I am hearing is, "It is OK for young people to use drugs and alcohol." If this is not what you are implying than I have misunderstood,

You have.

but this is what I have been discussing. Young people, not adults.

Then you should have said, "Experiencing life AS A YOUNG PERSON shouldn't include the illegal use of drugs, alchohol, or any other substance that will alter your personality."

[robertpaulsen]

"Then you should have said, "Experiencing life AS A YOUNG PERSON shouldn't ..."

Why? Because you were too lazy to read what he was referring to? The discussion was about children and teens experiencing life.