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Reborn [Pill reverses "vegetative state"]
The Guardian (UK) ^ | September 12, 2006 | by Steve Boggan

Posted on 09/11/2006 8:17:41 PM PDT by aculeus

We have always been told there is no recovery from persistent vegetative state - doctors can only make a sufferer's last days as painless as possible. But is that really the truth? Across three continents, severely brain-damaged patients are awake and talking after taking ... a sleeping pill. And no one is more baffled than the GP who made the breakthrough. Steve Boggan witnesses these 'strange and wonderful' rebirths

For three years, Riaan Bolton has lain motionless, his eyes open but unseeing. After a devastating car crash doctors said he would never again see or speak or hear. Now his mother, Johanna, dissolves a pill in a little water on a teaspoon and forces it gently into his mouth. Within half an hour, as if a switch has been flicked in his brain, Riaan looks around his home in the South African town of Kimberley and says, "Hello." Shortly after his accident, Johanna had turned down the option of letting him die.

Three hundred miles away, Louis Viljoen, a young man who had once been cruelly described by a doctor as "a cabbage", greets me with a mischievous smile and a streetwise four-move handshake. Until he took the pill, he too was supposed to be in what doctors call a persistent vegetative state.

Across the Atlantic in the United States, George Melendez, who is also brain-damaged, has lain twitching and moaning as if in agony for years, causing his parents unbearable grief. He, too, is given this little tablet and again, it's as if a light comes on. His father asks him if he is, indeed, in pain. "No," George smiles, and his family burst into tears.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
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To: onyx
Intially it was a verbal agreement between two parties. (her and I)

Having it written into the will makes it "written in stone" as it were.

I've been living here since the middle of 1991, and shortly after I moved in, she asked me whether I wanted to have her car or her pickup truck, and I said the car, and she said I will put that into my will and her exact words were "I want you to have the house and everything in it, and I will make sure that's written in there too.". So, as it is written, the car and house (everything in it) are to be in my name and her pickup truck will be dad's upon her passing. I have used her car every once in a while since that conversation. She had no problems with that, as I have paid for my own gas, washed it for her in the summer months, and I've changed her oil for her every spring.

242 posted on 09/12/2006 12:21:02 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper


Why does your aunt have a say so?


243 posted on 09/12/2006 12:24:25 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

I dunno. My mom can't figure that out either. My aunt hasn't lived here for 40 years. She graduated high school, went off to college, got married, and hasn't been back here since.


244 posted on 09/12/2006 12:43:00 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper


This personal stuff is best left to FR mail.


245 posted on 09/12/2006 12:45:04 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: aculeus

this is incredible! Thanks for posting. sharing with MANY...


246 posted on 09/12/2006 12:50:28 AM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: onyx

Agreed.


247 posted on 09/12/2006 12:51:40 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: FairOpinion; aculeus
Pinged from Terri SEPTEMBER Dailies

8mm

248 posted on 09/12/2006 3:14:02 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Old_Mil

Yes, I read it and it's interesting to say the least. Makes sense at first glance anyway.

I'm still going to wait to see how this plays out before certain comments about what happened two years ago come out in full force from my direction. We'll see.


249 posted on 09/12/2006 3:46:40 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: aculeus

Oh, let it go already. The Guardian is the Nat'l Enquirer of the UK.


250 posted on 09/12/2006 3:52:16 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: NonValueAdded

I was actually going to mention the "Ambien effect." It makes sense to me that it might kick-start the brain. A lot of people legitimately have some really insane/weird side efects when they take Ambien. I wonder exactly what it triggers in the brain chemistry...


252 posted on 09/12/2006 4:49:22 AM PDT by Malacoda (Bu**er Islam)
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To: Hildy
WHO IS GOING TO PAY TO KEEP EVERYBODY ALIVE?

Who used to pay for all the organ transplants from patients like these?

Off hand, it seems the organ transplant people might need to look to other sources

Anyway, there might actually be a reduction in overall costs, if a good number of the brain injured patients more quickly get to a state where they don't need as much care.

The people in the article have been cared for for years...If some of them had been given the sleeping pills sooner, the costs for their care might have gone down.

The families of the patients might gain some hope and happiness, in their lives, too.

How much is that worth?

253 posted on 09/12/2006 5:00:42 AM PDT by syriacus (Dems on the DEEP SIX COMMISSION are trying to cover up Clinton era mistakes.)
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To: Hildy

Aren't they the biggest hypocrites on the forum? They are typically liars as well.


254 posted on 09/12/2006 5:02:06 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Hildy
An honest question for you -- not meant to be rude or snarky, and I admire you for taking care of your parents. They must have been very blessed in their last weeks.

If you HADN'T had the financial resources to care for them -- if it had come down to medicare/medicaid, would you have been able to let them go?

I agree with the question of "who pays," but it's so complicated...if there is no one to pay, what do you do with those people? What responsibility do we have as a society?
I might argue that it's better to err on the side of Life.

Do we just let them die?

255 posted on 09/12/2006 5:06:14 AM PDT by Malacoda (Bu**er Islam)
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To: MHGinTN

Doing great, hope you are as well. Will read later - off to work.


256 posted on 09/12/2006 5:14:17 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: retMD
Good questions.

How about the elderly? My 90+ year old mother still has a sharp mind, but she sleeps quite a lot.

Do the elderly sleep so much because their sleep is "poorer quality" sleep?

Will research lead to a pill that allows her to be awake more hours, but still keep a sharp mind?

257 posted on 09/12/2006 5:18:22 AM PDT by syriacus (Dems on the DEEP SIX COMMISSION are trying to cover up Clinton era mistakes.)
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To: aculeus

Is someone making a docu on this?


258 posted on 09/12/2006 5:26:15 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

YOu figured that out: the drug is now available as a genetic.

So the pharma company is desperately working on a slight chemical variation for use in these patients that they can repatent and make gazillions on.

Now that there's anything wrong with that.


259 posted on 09/12/2006 5:32:55 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: RS

Isn't this just an off-label use of a drug that's already been approved?

All that happens is the word gets out that this works on some patients and doctors will start trying it.


260 posted on 09/12/2006 5:35:31 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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