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Haleigh Poutre Almost Victim of Euthanasia, Now Making Good Progress
Life News ^ | September 4, 2006 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 09/05/2006 4:45:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Boston, MA (LifeNews.com) -- Haleigh Poutre was the victim of child abuse and was nearly killed via euthanasia when Massachusetts officials gave up on her after she entered a coma. Now Poutre, once termed "brain dead" by doctors, continues to improve and is speaking a few words, her grandmother says.

Sandra Sudyka, the girl's biological grandmother, is no longer allowed to visit her granddaughter and now says she is ready to speak to the media about Poutre's condition.

She told The Republican newspaper that she last saw Poutre on July 18 but indicated she was "doing well."

"She was bright-eyed and smiling. She is always responsive to us," Sudyka explained.

Department of Social Services had asked Sudyka not to talk with reporters about Haleigh, but since they will no longer allow her and Haleigh's biological mother, Allison Avrett, to visit the 12 year-old, she said she's going to talk to the media.

"I decided since they broke the deal, I am going to talk. People should know how well she is doing," Sudyka told the newspaper.

"They don't want people to know how she is doing after they wanted to pull the plug," Sudyka said.

DSS spokeswoman Denise Monteiro declined an interview with The Republican but said that the visiting privileges have been suspended, not terminated.

Haleigh first began speaking in June, her grandmother told the newspaper.

"I was saying to her 'I love you,' and she was trying to say 'love' and it came out as a vibration...'ove,'" Sudyka said.

Sudyka, who is working with an attorney to adopt the girl, said she has said hello, responds to comments and questions, speaks nonverbally and is able to write her name. Haleigh can't walk and is confined to a wheelchair.

Avrett, Poutre's biological mother, lost custody of her daughter after physically abusing her. Poutre was put into a foster home where her adoptive parents also abused her. Her adopted mother committed suicide after abusing Poutre so much she had to be hospitalized.

DSS took Poutre into custody and when she appeared to slip into a coma, the agency asked the state Supreme Court for permission to take her life. That's when Poutre began responding.

Poutre has been receiving physical, speech and occupational therapy since January 26 at Franciscan Hospital for Children in Brighton.

Gov. Mitt Romney appointed a commission to look into how the state failed to properly handle the girl's case.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: babykillers; deathcult; deathcultivation; haleigh; haleighpoutre; kottkamprinotoo; schiavo; terridailies; terrioctoberdailies; terrischiavo; terrislegacy
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To: bjs1779

Funny, you weren't saying that the other day.


541 posted on 09/17/2006 5:44:30 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: bjs1779
Thanks for the compliment, but none the less, it was pulled for being offensive. I stick up for the moderators : )

LOL!!! How would you know?? You don't even know what was there.....hell you aren't a mod, so how would you know the reason it was even pulled????

The answer is you don't, only you are too stubborn to know when you are beaten. I don't know why you are choosing to pursue this argument, but I can go all night, so be my guest.
542 posted on 09/17/2006 5:47:11 PM PDT by MikefromOhio ("...America has confronted evil before, and we have defeated it...")
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To: 8mmMauser

"I am asking you. Why are you invading our thread? Is it to disrupt? Is it to hijack and get this moved to the Smokey Backroom like the last one from whence you came?

I have no gripes at what you post elsewhere, even at other Terri threads, but to invade this one, you are declaring a jihad and in doing so are revealing your essence.
"




I do not see how this News/Activism thread is anything but a thread about a young person who is recovering from serious problems.

You call it a Terri Legacy Thread, but nothing about Terri Schiavo appears in the original post. I joined the thread when it began to discuss organ donation. You can look back and see at what point I entered the thread. That is a subject that interests me.

I have never used the term "Terribots." I take each thread individually, and respond based on what is being posted. I'm not stalking anyone. I don't even remember ever posting to BykrBayb prior to this thread, and do not know who she is, other than another Freeper.

As for who is "the face of FreeRepublic," as you put it, I have no idea. There is a wide range of viewpoints expressed here. As long as the discussion is civil, the discussion goes on, as it should. Only when name-calling begins do threads deteriorate into flamefests.

I'm part of no group. I am one poster. You can view my posting history, some 29,000 or so posts. I post for myself, alone. I'm a member of no group on FreeRepublic. If you take the time to review my posting history, you'll find that I post on all sorts of topics.

You ask, "Why are you here?" I am on FreeRepublic to discuss political issues. Isn't that why we're all here? News threads are not exclusive to one group or another. They are simply news threads. They show up in the News/Activism topic...the only one I bother to read. When a thread shows up that interests me, I read it. If there are posts I want to reply to, I reply.

There is no Terri Legacy topic on Free Republic. There is the Chat topic for things that aren't news any longer, but no Terri Legacy topic. What is posted in News/Activism is on the most active topic on Free Republic. Everyone may post on any of those threads. This thread became a discussion of organ donation and transplantation That has nothing to do with Terri Schiavo, but it's a topic of interest to me. So I posted replies to some of the posts that dealt with that topic. I called nobody names. I simply posted my opinion.

Again, you mention my "Team." I have no team. I post completely on my own regard. I have no affiliations with any other poster on Free Republic.

You mention the principles of Jim Robinson. Jim stands for discussion of issues, done in a civil way. That's what I do here. I discuss topics, and try very hard to be civil. I haven't called anyone any names. I haven't said anyone was stupid. I haven't called anyone "obtuse." I have merely stated my opinion as clearly as I can.

Finally, you ask, "Why are you invading our thread?" I'm sorry, but I don't see how it is your thread. It is posted in the most active topic on Free Republic. It has grown to over 500 posts. Were it in Chat or Religion, I probably would never have seen it. If there were a Terri Schiavo topic, I would never have seen it.

Had it just been about this poor kid, I would never have posted. I began posting when it swerved into a discussion of organ donation and transplantation. That has nothing to do with Terri Schiavo, as I have said before.

You accuse me of "declaring a jihad." I guess I don't see how that applies. I'm just posting my opinion. It is you who wants to keep me off this thread. I'm not attempting to keep anyone off this or any other thread. I'm just posting on a topic of interest to me.

You are welcome to ask the moderator or Jim Robinson to look at my posts in this thread. I would never do such a thing, but, hey, the [Report Abuse] button is always there. As far as I know, though, I haven't broken any rules here. I'm being civil in my posts, and I'm just stating my opinion about this thread.

If you want to call yourself a "Terribot," please feel free. I don't use the term. I understand that many people feel very strongly about Terri Schiavo and the situation she was in. I don't necessarily agree with all their opinions. But I don't call them names.


543 posted on 09/17/2006 5:47:39 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: ahayes

You reveal yourself nicely.


544 posted on 09/17/2006 5:47:44 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: ahayes
Funny, you weren't saying that the other day.

I know what you mean. It was just constructive criticism on a certain point that I made. I don't think it was pulled.

545 posted on 09/17/2006 5:49:12 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser

Oh dear. I try to be modest. What was I revealing?


546 posted on 09/17/2006 5:50:04 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: BykrBayb

"Live are being saved, in honor of Terri Schindler Schiavo."

That's the best thing we can do, and what Terri would have wanted.


547 posted on 09/17/2006 5:52:22 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: MineralMan

I usually do not have much to say one way or another and even don't quite believe your tagline, but you are here not really aware of what we do here and you are associating with those who have a real axe to grind with people who defend the innocent from euthanasia.

And you are civil and decent, I do agree, but you are missing the point of our threads. If you had followed, each month we take a theme, this case, of one poor Haliegh Poutre who was nearly killed as was Terri.

You got lumped in to the general description because of your association with the others who behave as trolls past have behaved and who use the same arguments. Should you abhor such a label, consider your company.


548 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:42 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: ahayes
Oh dear. I try to be modest. What was I revealing?

Your dripping sarcasm, to start with.

549 posted on 09/17/2006 5:55:55 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

This is a questioning of who has the power to have a post pulled...certain allegations were made that some posters have the ability to have certain posts and certain threads pulled...many of us were merely questioning this, and whether that questioning occurs on this thread or any other thread, is of no consequence....its a matter of what is and what is not procedure on FR...

This is no Jihad, as you have put it...quite the buzzword, but it wont work...when false allegations are made, on whatever thread, any and all posters have the right to question the allegation...

Are you claiming that on this particular thread, only certain posters are allowed to voice their opinion?...I dont see disruption, what I see is people wanting facts about who does and who does not have the abiltiy and authority to have a post pulled...why does that have you so upset?...get a clear clarification can do no one any harm, and it can do us all a lot of good...why is that bad?


550 posted on 09/17/2006 5:56:40 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: bjs1779

Not that facts matter to people like you, but what I typed was "It looks like the mods took care of a little problem. LOL"


551 posted on 09/17/2006 5:57:14 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Declaring jihad? Geez - get a grip. The hysteria level just went skyhigh.


552 posted on 09/17/2006 5:58:15 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: All

This was in a real newspaper, so I don't have a link, "Our Sunday Visitor," the April 10, 2005 edition, & the author is Lori Hadacek Chaplin.

It was suggested to a doctor that they pull the plug of a little baby's ventilator, because he had flat brain waves. The doctor did not, and little Joseph not only lived, but went on to receive straight A's in school, run track and play baseball.

STRAIGHT A's. Now can you imagine how smart he would have been if he HAD brain waves when he was an infant? :)

The doctor, Dr. Byrne, is now a clinical professor of pediatrics at the Medical College of Ohio and HAS BEEN A PERSISTENT VOICE against using brain-wave criteria for DETERMINING DEATH.

So we better think twice when allowing the doctors to give your loved ones' organs, because they are declared "brain dead."

Did you know that organs are more valuable when the patient is alive, but declared "brain dead?"


553 posted on 09/17/2006 6:00:04 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: 8mmMauser

Hey, I am exercising restraint, due to my recent vow to be kinder and gentler. However, after the ridiculous way I've been treated here for simply daring to disagree, I think a bit of sarcasm is to be expected!

I actually would have been gone pages ago except for the way some posters here tend to go off the rail. To continue the metaphor, it's like watching a train wreck. . . It's hard to look away!


554 posted on 09/17/2006 6:00:07 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: bjs1779

Yes - he replied that indeed the mod did take care of a little problem upthread. Why the mods pulled two innocuous posts is a mystery; feel free to ask them.


555 posted on 09/17/2006 6:01:30 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: 8mmMauser; Peach; ahayes
you are declaring a jihad and in doing so are revealing your essence.

Durka Frickin Durka.....
556 posted on 09/17/2006 6:02:35 PM PDT by MikefromOhio ("...America has confronted evil before, and we have defeated it...")
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To: MikefromOhio

I myself was going to say that using the term, 'Jihad' was a classic case of the 'drama queen', but thought better of it, instead using the term 'buzzword'...however, upon more careful thought, I do think that 'drama queen' is appropriate in this case...


557 posted on 09/17/2006 6:04:06 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: MikefromOhio

Probably the most innocuous post on this entire thread was mine which said "The mods took care of a little problem I see. Good. LOL"

Now, why they pulled it is a mystery which they can feel free to answer if they'd like. But I'm sure there's a certain contingent that would much prefer the "conspiracy".


558 posted on 09/17/2006 6:05:12 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: andysandmikesmom

drama queen works perfectly....


559 posted on 09/17/2006 6:05:22 PM PDT by MikefromOhio ("...America has confronted evil before, and we have defeated it...")
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To: Peach
Why the mods pulled two innocuous posts is a mystery; feel free to ask them.

I was attempting to end a flamewar, a total waste of time on my part. I'm restoring all the pulled comments. Have at it.

560 posted on 09/17/2006 6:05:44 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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