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In SC, a First, Small Step to Curb Teen Smoking
CSM via Stateline.org ^ | August 31, 2006 | Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 08/31/2006 5:30:49 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Last week, the state finally outlawed underage smoking. Critics say that's not enough.

With the lowest cigarette tax in the nation and a dead-last ranking in smoking prevention, South Carolina remains one of the last true smokers' outposts.

But from the Pee Dee River to Parris Island, the Palmetto State's "smoke-and-let-smoke" ethic is changing - at least when it comes to teenage partakers. By becoming one of the last states to outlaw teenage possession of tobacco on Aug. 21, the legislature and Gov. Mark Sanford (R) took the state's first tentative steps toward state-sponsored smoking prevention.

The gambit itself won't likely change many minds. In fact, critics expect police won't find much time to impose a $25 fine, up to five days of community service, and possibly a lecture from the judge's bench on an underage smoker. Yet experts say the law does have meaning, not only for parents trying to bolster their own "don't smoke" sermons, but for an antismoking movement that, until now, has failed to gain purchase in a state that perhaps takes tobacco more seriously than any other.

"There's a wide variety in states about the level of legislative activism [on tobacco]," says Dick Vallandingham, director of prevention services for the Beaufort County Alcohol and Drug Abuse Department. "But even if you're at the tail end like South Carolina and you've got your feet dragging the back end of the wagon, you're still in the wagon."

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: puff; puffping
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To: Hunble

So...are you with us or against us? Who's going to take the time to read all that? This is the age of information and sound bites, Man! LOL!


41 posted on 08/31/2006 6:35:57 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Just A Nobody

LOL!!


42 posted on 08/31/2006 6:36:11 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Unsurprisingly, Kentucky and West Virginia, the states with the highest and second-highest incidence of smoking, respectively, are also the states with the highest and second-highest incidences of lung cancer.

And IIRC, they are two of the main states that do coal mining. But of course that has nothing to do with lung cancer. Pffffft

43 posted on 08/31/2006 6:37:10 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I will become the next "Al Capone", when the government crosses this line once again.

Al Capone understood that there are huge profits to be earned, when the government fights against it's citizens.

In the immortal words of Forest Gump:

"Stupid is, as stupid does!"

44 posted on 08/31/2006 6:41:15 PM PDT by Hunble (Why?)
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To: Just A Nobody
It all makes sense.... Coal mining causes smoking! ;-)


45 posted on 08/31/2006 6:47:20 PM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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To: Just A Nobody; Gondring
Ok, coal mining is the lead cause of lung cancer? Great theory. Only a few problems.

1. Kentucky is the top of the list for lung cancer for women too (West Virginia falls to #3, behind Nevada). How many women coal miners have you met? Hint: blame smoking, not mining.

2.At any given point there are only about 15,000 coal miners (surface and underground) in the state of West Virginia (Source: The West Virginia Office of Miners. That's about 1% of the male population. If 100% got lung cancer at some point during their lives, it STILL wouldn't account for the discrepency. Sorry.

46 posted on 08/31/2006 6:59:23 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Hunble

"I will become the next 'Al Capone,' when the government crosses this line once again."

Do you need someone to ride shotgun? If so, I'm your Gal, LOL!


47 posted on 08/31/2006 6:59:43 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Any time "Bonny!"


48 posted on 08/31/2006 7:02:50 PM PDT by Hunble (Why?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Encourage teens to smoke; they'll quit or never start.


49 posted on 08/31/2006 7:03:18 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Alter Kaker
I am not disputing the link to smoking, but neither am I agreeing that your stats demonstrate it. The fact is that you have not adjuisted for mortality factors other than lung cancer. Perhaps West Virginians get more exercise than folks from other states, and thus die of heart attack less often. Their cancer death rate would be higher.

Also, they might have other habits that increase lung cancer, like diet...or bluegrass music... ;-)

50 posted on 08/31/2006 7:04:41 PM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Here is my plan to curb teen smoking. Change the law! Currently it is illegal to sell tobacco to a minor. But it is not illegal for a minor purchase, poses, or use tobacco.

Start fining them for attempted purchases. Fine them for possessing it. And find them for using it.

While this will move it undergound a bit, after a few rounds of highly publicized teens getting smacked with $100 fine for smoking a cigarette, purchasing, or just plain possesing it will start to put a sizable dent in it.

51 posted on 08/31/2006 7:08:52 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Hunble

"Only Yesterday", one of my favorite history books!

How does that saying go...

"Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it"?


52 posted on 08/31/2006 7:09:05 PM PDT by mucrospirifer
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To: mucrospirifer
"Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it"

Those that remember history, know how to profit!

53 posted on 08/31/2006 7:11:15 PM PDT by Hunble (Why?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thanks. It'd been a long time since I'd read it.


54 posted on 08/31/2006 7:23:10 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (What I do (sin) is proof of what I am (sinful).)
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To: Hunble

LOL! I think my name actually WAS "Bonny" in another life. It was also "Cougar Annie" and "Molly Pitcher." ;)

Man! If we were only allowed to choose the eras we were born into, what a greater adventure Life would be and all of this Socialism could've been stomped out decades ago!

I need my own Holodeck...


55 posted on 08/31/2006 7:23:37 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"Bonny", the best time in history is the one that you are living in today!

God placed us on Earth for a reason. Each and every one of us has a job to do.

Sometimes, "raising hell" is what we were put on Earth to do.

56 posted on 08/31/2006 7:38:30 PM PDT by Hunble (Why?)
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To: Gondring

LOL!


57 posted on 08/31/2006 7:42:01 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Alter Kaker
I am a Jew. I grew up in Poland

Then you should be celebrating the existence and rights of smokers.

Old Adolf was way ahead of the curve in the anti-smoking movement.

The fact that you celebrate something he wanted, but never happened would really frost really frost his gonads.

That is, unless you help him achieve one of his goals.

58 posted on 08/31/2006 7:43:39 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Phantom Lord
Start fining them for attempted purchases. Fine them for possessing it. And fine them for using it.

I've been saying that for years........

When they were changing the laws in Delaware about it I suggested adding fines for the underage purchasers/users and the reaction of the anti-smokers was "We can't do that, it's not fair to them because hey are addicted."

I kid you not.....but no, I can not provide a link to that because it was something said to me in the state house and in a letter to the editor long before the particular paper was online.

59 posted on 08/31/2006 7:48:56 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Man! If we were only allowed to choose the eras we were born into, what a greater adventure Life would be and all of this Socialism could've been stomped out decades ago!

OTOH, many of us would be dead peasants. X-P

60 posted on 08/31/2006 8:15:39 PM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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