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ADL Blasts Christian Supremacist TV Special & Book Blaming Darwin For Hitler
The Anti-Defamation League ^ | August 22, 2006 | The Anti-Defamation League

Posted on 08/22/2006 2:04:20 PM PDT by js1138

ADL Blasts Christian Supremacist TV Special & Book Blaming Darwin For Hitler

New York, NY, August 22, 2006 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today blasted a television documentary produced by Christian broadcaster Dr. D. James Kennedy's Coral Ridge Ministries that attempts to link Charles Darwin's theory of evolution to Adolf Hitler and the atrocities of the Holocaust. ADL also denounced Coral Ridge Ministries for misleading Dr. Francis Collins, the director of the National Human Genome Research Institute for the NIH, and wrongfully using him as part of its twisted documentary, "Darwin's Deadly Legacy."

After being contacted by the ADL about his name being used to promote Kennedy's project, Dr. Collins said he is "absolutely appalled by what Coral Ridge Ministries is doing. I had NO knowledge that Coral Ridge Ministries was planning a TV special on Darwin and Hitler, and I find the thesis of Dr. Kennedy's program utterly misguided and inflammatory," he told ADL.

ADL National Director Abraham H. Foxman said in a statement:"This is an outrageous and shoddy attempt by D. James Kennedy to trivialize the horrors of the Holocaust. Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people. Trivializing the Holocaust comes from either ignorance at best or, at worst, a mendacious attempt to score political points in the culture war on the backs of six million Jewish victims and others who died at the hands of the Nazis.

"It must be remembered that D. James Kennedy is a leader among the distinct group of 'Christian Supremacists' who seek to "reclaim America for Christ" and turn the U.S. into a Christian nation guided by their strange notions of biblical law."

The documentary is scheduled to air this weekend along with the publication of an accompanying book "Evolution's Fatal Fruit: How Darwin's Tree of Life Brought Death to Millions."

A Coral Ridge Ministries press release promoting the documentary says the program "features 14 scholars, scientists, and authors who outline the grim consequences of Darwin's theory of evolution and show how his theory fueled Hitler's ovens."


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To: Virginia-American

The pagan National Socialists killed at least twice as many Christians as they did Jews... and the Soviet Socialists...


701 posted on 08/25/2006 6:40:27 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: DanDenDar
Deal with it.

What we are dealing with is a claim that Hitler was a Christian. Table Talk is pretty good evidence that he wasn't. Carrier, who has an agenda to convince the world that Hitler was some kind of a Christian, found some translation problems. Even taking into account that Carrier is right, Table Talk -- using Carrier's claims -- still shows Hitler to be an anti-Christian.

Transubstantiation is not accepted by most Christians. Surely you know that.

Again, we'll call that progress. Another one conceding that Hitler was not a Catholic. And transubstantion is accepted by about half of all Christians.

Hitler was critical of Christianity in some passages, and accepting of much of its doctrine in others.

Like Jesus being an Aryan? LOL.

That was Spencer's phrase, not Darwin's.

Spencer was a Darwnist.

702 posted on 08/25/2006 6:40:27 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: js1138; Tribune7
Is there some kind of rule about automatic self excommunication?

There is indeed. It is called excommunicatio latae sententiae, when one commits an act that is so obviously an act of apostasy that no court of canon law needs to convene in order to explicitly declare an excommunication.

Hitler engaged in several activities that automatically excommunicated him, including his participation in meetings of Karl Lueger's anti-Catholic Guido-von-List Gesellschaft.

The passage of the Nuremberg Laws also incurred an automatic excommunication, since anyone who is responsible for crwating and enforcing legislation that voids or impairs the laws of the Catholic Church regarding sacramental marriage are excommunicated.

He was automatically excommunicated for the procurement of abortions of women considered unfit.

He was automatically excommunicated for depriving the Church of its liberties.

There are various stories of his personal life which, if true, also create conditions for various automatic excommunications.

When he ordered the killings of various priests in such places at Mauthausen, he cemented his various preexisting automatic excommunications many times over.

The list goes on and on and on.

Few people ever baptized Catholic have ever incurred more automatic excommunications than Hitler.

703 posted on 08/25/2006 6:45:50 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
The pagan National Socialists killed at least twice as many Christians as they did Jews... and the Soviet Socialists...

So were the ordinary German people who voted Hitler into power and who supported him during all these atrocities in on the gag? Were the German people secretly pagagan all along, and just waved crosses and Christian slogans as a joke?

704 posted on 08/25/2006 6:48:07 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138; Tribune7
Were the German people in on the gag?

The German people knew when Cardinal Faulhaber was placed under house arrest and Dietrich Bonhoeffer was driven underground that the regime had no tolerance for traditional Christianity of either the Catholic or Protestant variety.

705 posted on 08/25/2006 6:48:35 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: js1138
Is that official, though.

So your saying you can wish to destroy the Catholic Church, disbelieve in transubstantion and think Jesus was an Aryan, and still be a Catholic?

Were the German people in on the gag? When Hitler said Christianity, did they wink and smile to each other, knowing that they were all secretly pagans?

Most Germans did not vote for Hitler. His party did not have a majority in the Rechistag and he his acquistion of power came via domestic turmoil and misjudgements by his political adversaries. Once he acquired power, he famously took over the means of controlling information and quashing dissent. A whole lot of Germans supported him because they were fed bad data.

A lot of decent Americans support totalitarian-inclined Democrats for the same reason.

706 posted on 08/25/2006 6:49:20 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: wideawake

Good points.


707 posted on 08/25/2006 6:51:34 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: wideawake

Do you have the authority to render this judgement, or has this been been made official?


708 posted on 08/25/2006 6:51:58 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: wideawake
Nice points, wideawake, but you're wasting your time.

Those whose bitterness toward the Christian Faith have so mutated their senses that they wish to superimpose Christianity on Hitler have made up their minds and are oblivious to the truth.

They desperately want to believe he was a Christian, thereby validating their hate. Facts are mere annoyances to them and are disregarded.

Nice try, though.
709 posted on 08/25/2006 6:56:14 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: Tribune7

But the bad data included religious rites and symbols. If the justification was pagan, why the public appeal to Christianity?

Now, if imprisoning clerics is automatically anti-Christian, then at least a couple of Popes were anti-Christian.


710 posted on 08/25/2006 6:57:09 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: PhilipFreneau
Of course I read the footnote. But that does not prove Kennedy lied. Rather it proves that you are quick to grasp at anything to support your belief. Where is your proof that Franklin's proposal was denied?

Irony -- it's what's for breakfast.

711 posted on 08/25/2006 7:09:09 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: js1138
Were the German people secretly pagagan all along, and just waved crosses and Christian slogans as a joke?

It would appear that way, wouldn't it? Especially when you consider the swastika as their broken cross...

712 posted on 08/25/2006 7:10:54 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: js1138
Do you have the authority to render this judgement, or has this been been made official?

It is automatically official, it never had to be "made" official.

If someone who was baptized Catholic goes to medical school, gets a license and then performs an abortion he is automatically excommunicated by Church law.

They don't send him a certificate telling him, there is no formal process. He did a deed which incurs excommunication and that's flat, end of story.

The Catholic Church is not ruled by British common law, but canon law. There is no presumption of innocence for people who violate the canons.

The only formal juridical act the Church can undertake regarding that person, then, is to restore them to communion if they repent in the proper fashion at some point in the future and petition to have the excommunication removed.

People are only formally excommunicated in writing when it is an open question of whether they have actually violated canon law or not - i.e. the law is not sufficiently clear in their specific case.

In Hitler's case there isn't any open question or doubt. He violated the canons openly, substantively and deliberately.

713 posted on 08/25/2006 7:15:50 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

I'm waiting for someone to start blaming Stalin's purges on Christianity LOL


714 posted on 08/25/2006 7:16:03 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

Stalin was an Orthodox seminarian, after all.


715 posted on 08/25/2006 7:17:05 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Tribune7

Until this topic came up I thought conservatives didn't believe in blame shifting.


716 posted on 08/25/2006 7:23:18 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138

Nazis infiltrated, co-opted, perverted and used many institutions to further their political aims, and not just the church. Take, for instance, the Bauhaus. They recognized the need to make their propaganda materials not just emotionally compelling, but visually compelling as well. They weren't Christian in thought or deed. They fooled just enough people, just long enough, to consolidate their domination. Then, the horrors of the Reich began. And, what school of thought came to the fore, in implementing their "solution," their industrial genocide? Eugenics, with a straight line back to Darwin.


717 posted on 08/25/2006 7:41:14 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: js1138

Note: Hitler wasn't elected, he was appointed by President Hindenberg.

The Nazis did own a large chunk of the legislature, though.


718 posted on 08/25/2006 7:43:59 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: RegulatorCountry
Eugenics, with a straight line back to Darwin.

For someone lecturing on history, you should know that selective breeding of plants, animals and humans was going on for thousands of years before Darwin. All Darwin did was notice that it happend in nature without human intervention.

719 posted on 08/25/2006 8:06:42 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: RegulatorCountry

Wallace, who discovered natural selection independently, called it the tendency of varieties to diverge indefinitely.

Prior to Wallace and Darwin it was thought that varieties always reverted to the "mutt" form.

There is nothing in Wallace's or Darwin's writings that adds anything to the practice or literature of selective breeding.


720 posted on 08/25/2006 8:20:02 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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