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ADL Blasts Christian Supremacist TV Special & Book Blaming Darwin For Hitler
The Anti-Defamation League ^ | August 22, 2006 | The Anti-Defamation League

Posted on 08/22/2006 2:04:20 PM PDT by js1138

ADL Blasts Christian Supremacist TV Special & Book Blaming Darwin For Hitler

New York, NY, August 22, 2006 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today blasted a television documentary produced by Christian broadcaster Dr. D. James Kennedy's Coral Ridge Ministries that attempts to link Charles Darwin's theory of evolution to Adolf Hitler and the atrocities of the Holocaust. ADL also denounced Coral Ridge Ministries for misleading Dr. Francis Collins, the director of the National Human Genome Research Institute for the NIH, and wrongfully using him as part of its twisted documentary, "Darwin's Deadly Legacy."

After being contacted by the ADL about his name being used to promote Kennedy's project, Dr. Collins said he is "absolutely appalled by what Coral Ridge Ministries is doing. I had NO knowledge that Coral Ridge Ministries was planning a TV special on Darwin and Hitler, and I find the thesis of Dr. Kennedy's program utterly misguided and inflammatory," he told ADL.

ADL National Director Abraham H. Foxman said in a statement:"This is an outrageous and shoddy attempt by D. James Kennedy to trivialize the horrors of the Holocaust. Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people. Trivializing the Holocaust comes from either ignorance at best or, at worst, a mendacious attempt to score political points in the culture war on the backs of six million Jewish victims and others who died at the hands of the Nazis.

"It must be remembered that D. James Kennedy is a leader among the distinct group of 'Christian Supremacists' who seek to "reclaim America for Christ" and turn the U.S. into a Christian nation guided by their strange notions of biblical law."

The documentary is scheduled to air this weekend along with the publication of an accompanying book "Evolution's Fatal Fruit: How Darwin's Tree of Life Brought Death to Millions."

A Coral Ridge Ministries press release promoting the documentary says the program "features 14 scholars, scientists, and authors who outline the grim consequences of Darwin's theory of evolution and show how his theory fueled Hitler's ovens."


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To: orionblamblam
Once again... *wow.*

Sorry. I didn't hear about scientists performing an experiment that proved conclusively that slavery was wrong.

So what happens in the Messianic future when a thief cannot recompense his victim? The Torah says he is to be sold into slavery and the profit from the sale used to recompense the robbery victim. So . . . you won't let him do this?

Tell me again about those awful Southern Baptists, please?

381 posted on 08/23/2006 2:39:06 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shofetim veshoterim titen-lekha bekhol she`areykha . . .)
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To: DanDenDar

> if you're going to read a crevo thread on FR, it's a good idea to have a copy of the DSM IV handy, to identify the odd things you meet.

A crevo thread is like aday on DU. You feel stupider for having read the complete insanity of some of the posters.

Makes you wonder if maybe someone hereabouts might not be a DU plant, sent to make FReepers look like whackadoodles.


382 posted on 08/23/2006 2:43:23 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
So what happens in the Messianic future when a thief cannot recompense his victim? The Torah says he is to be sold into slavery and the profit from the sale used to recompense the robbery victim. So . . . you won't let him do this?

There is the small matter of the 13th amendment.

Since you reject the Constitution of the United States, why are you here on FR? Heck, why are you infesting my country?

383 posted on 08/23/2006 2:57:46 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: staytrue
You are full of crap.

Now, here's a debater.

THE FOSSIL RECORD IS A FACT,

So, you believe the brontosaurus actually existed?

384 posted on 08/23/2006 2:57:58 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Huh? What the ....?

RESUME YOUR MEDICATIONS IMMEDIATELY!


385 posted on 08/23/2006 3:04:41 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Zionist Conspirator
>But of course anti-religious types like to pose as "lovers of the Jews" so they turn the entire Bible into a chr*stian document, which it isn't


386 posted on 08/23/2006 3:12:11 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: orionblamblam
How can someone grow up surrounded by a religion and *not* be influenced by it? It's like suggesting that he wasn't "influenced" by German culture.

Or that you're influenced by Christianity.

OK, how about we agree that Hitler

A. was not a Christian

B. hated Christianity

C. and was guided by anti-Christian, psuedo-scientific notions

387 posted on 08/23/2006 3:22:24 PM PDT by Tribune7
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When Mashiach comes he will put a blade to your throat

First of all, when you define morality (as I do) as "arbitrary Divine decree," it becomes a little silly to say "if G-d is the source of morality." Of course G-d is the source of His Decrees! How could it be otherwise?

I define a sociopath as someone who rejects arbitrary Divine decree.

You meet the most ... interesting people on FR.

388 posted on 08/23/2006 3:25:05 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: tjd1454

Unless I can review the steps the organizations took to verify them, it is not worthy of consideration to me. I understand it is plenty for many. But I am a skeptic.

Skeptics study human nature and what motivates men. They understand the urge of a man to hoax. Hoaxers want power over people's minds, and will make up stuff to get it. Your average academician might not know that.

To grant some no-name the authority to describe the motivations of a major historical figure after the figures death is to give a stranger a great power. Too much power to trust the man without a thorough investigation (as in the academic equivalent of a strip-search).

I hope you understand my point here, I can't reread and rework the post as I usually do cuz a storms coming....


389 posted on 08/23/2006 3:25:23 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: orionblamblam
The initial theme of this thread related to Abraham Foxman, a political liberal of Jewish heritage, denouncing D. James Kennedy, a politically and theologically conservative Presbyterian minister, who had decried the theory of evolution developed by Charles Darwin and who had stated that the British scientist influenced Hitler and the Nazis. The fact is that Charles Darwin believed that natural selection was a law of nature operating independently of any divine governance. Of course, Darwin was no advocate of genocide and, while he might have believed in the superiority of the white race, he harbored no anti-Semitic sentiments.

I cannot judge what Kennedy said regarding Darwin and Hitler. However, there is no doubt that the theory of natural selection was adopted, and distorted, by the so-called scientific racists of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, such as Arthur de Gobineau, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, and Madison Grant, who developed a theory of white and especially Nordic supremacy based on their interpretation of Darwin's works. These "scientific racists" profoundly impacted Hitler and his cohorts in their Nordicism, far more so than did the anti-Semitic rants of Martin Luther.

One might well argue that Darwin, and for that matter Nietzsche, would have been opposed to Nazism had they lived to see its rise. In all probability, Kant and Hegel would have opposed Marxism. Marx himself might have been shocked at some of the actions done in his name by Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, or the Kims of North Korea.

In a like vein, it is absurd to try to link creationists with Muslim extremists. Biblical creationists may share the concept of creation ex nihilo with Muslims, just as Darwin shared his theory of natural selection with Marxists and the so-called scientific racists. The fact that most Christian creationists are fundamentalists or conservative evangelicals, a group that is generally more supportive of Israel than anyone outside the Jewish community, indicates the absurd nature of any linkage with profoundly anti-Semitic Muslim extremists.

390 posted on 08/23/2006 3:32:58 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: b_sharp
Your comment was a pretty obvious non sequitur.

ZC has something going on that isn't part of this thread.

391 posted on 08/23/2006 3:59:27 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: DanDenDar
Since you reject the Constitution of the United States, why are you here on FR? Heck, why are you infesting my country?

As I mentioned earlier, ZC appears to be exempt from the usual FR rules against promoting slavery, upholding the Constitution and so forth. His prsence will do wonders for the site's reputation when it gets quoted on the Daily KOS.

392 posted on 08/23/2006 4:12:05 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138; Zionist Conspirator

After reading through posts from ZC, the only conclusion I can reach that makes sense to me is that ZC converted to Judaism, and was either a Messianic Jew from the outset, or accepted Jesus of Nazareth as Moshiach/Messiah after conversion. ZC, this is my honest assessment, and is not intended to derogate.


393 posted on 08/23/2006 4:14:32 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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DSM-IV bookmark


394 posted on 08/23/2006 4:27:28 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: dread78645

Your "bookmark" implies one thing, and your tagline implies another. Hmmm. Where are you coming from?


395 posted on 08/23/2006 4:34:33 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Without intending to derogate, his posts make no sense, are completely off topic, and are inflammatory in multiple ways, to evolutionists and to Christian conservatives. In short, they are the work of a troll looking to stir up trouble without adding to anyone's understanding.


396 posted on 08/23/2006 4:54:17 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138

A troll since 1999? Pinging Alouette? I don't think so. Something about trying to pin Nazism on Christianity, which is after all essentially a sect of Judaism, set all this off.


397 posted on 08/23/2006 4:58:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Something about trying to pin Nazism on Christianity...

That's what Hitler did. This thread is about a misguided attempt to blame Nazism on science, using fraudulent documents. Freepers ought to be sensitive to the use of phony documents.

398 posted on 08/23/2006 5:20:34 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: RegulatorCountry
ZC is able to explain his position better than I can. However, I understand that he is a former fundamentalist Christian, who, after a sojourn with Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, became convinced that traditional Judaism was correct in its rejection of Jesus Christ as the Messiah and the divine inspiration of the New Testament. Not being Jewish by background, he became a Noachide, a non-Jewish person who believes that the Torah (written revelation) and the Talmud (orally transmitted revelation and interpretation of the Torah by Jewish scholars, reduced to writing in the Middle Ages) are the only valid sources of divine revelation. Noachides believe that non-Jews are bound only by the general revelation given to Noah after the Genesis Flood, and they observe those laws, while respecting and adhering to the 600 plus commands given to the Jewish people in the Torah.
399 posted on 08/23/2006 5:24:49 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: RegulatorCountry
After reading through posts from ZC, the only conclusion I can reach that makes sense to me is that ZC converted to Judaism, and was either a Messianic Jew from the outset, or accepted Jesus of Nazareth as Moshiach/Messiah after conversion. ZC, this is my honest assessment, and is not intended to derogate.

I am a Noachide. Actually, all non-Jews are Noachides; I'm merely a Noachide who recognized that fact and therefore am an "observant" Noachide.

I don't know why you think J*sus has anything to do with any of this. Despite the tradition of liberals and atheists to pin everything religious on chr*stianity (which didn't exist until 2000 years ago), the fact is that if you read the "new testament" you will find that J*sus was about a zillion miles to the Left of the Jewish G-d, the Jealous G-d of Israel. In fact, many "anti-chr*stians," after attacking Genesis, will turn right around and endorse the "sermon on the mount!"

Chr*stianity, at least theoretically, is a salvational religion. By nature (so it claims) all humans are born subject to Satan, and G-d does not become one's G-d until one "passes from nature to grace." This is sheer nonsense. G-d is G-d, He created everything and everyone and gave His Laws to 'Adam HaRi'shon, to Noach, to the 'Avot, and finally to Moses and Israel on Mt. Sinai. G-d is already the G-d of everything and everyone, and every human being born into the world is statutorily obligated to live by His Laws. In other words, religion in Judaism/Noachism is statutory rather than salvational. How did statutory religion ever come to be associated with the liberal religion known as chr*stianity (aside from a certain amount of chr*stian inconsistency on the issue, of course)?

All Orthodox Jews believe the Torah was written entirely by G-d and is absolute and eternal. This is not a chr*stian doctrine. Unfortunately, most non-Jews are so blasted ignorant about Judaism. They know absolutely nothing about it, especially when they attack Jewish concepts or sacred texts as "chr*stians." Really, how many non-Jews know anything about Seider Hazkarot HaNeshamot or Simchat Beit HaSho'evah?

The Jewish people are not a religious denomination. They are a Theocratic nation in exile, and they are so right in the open, in front of everyone, yet no one seems to be able to see it! Most frustrating, I must say.

And btw, no offense was taken. I likewise apologize for any offense I have caused you in this post.

400 posted on 08/23/2006 5:39:16 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shofetim veshoterim titen-lekha bekhol she`areykha . . .)
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