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Suspect Confesses To JonBenet Ramsey Murder Thai Official Says
MSNBC ^ | 8-17-2006 | MSNCB

Posted on 08/16/2006 11:53:09 PM PDT by Lurker

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To: spectre
A University of Colorado spokesman, Barrie Hartman, said journalism professor Michael Tracey communicated with Karr over several months and contacted police. The university spokesman said he didn't know what prompted Tracey to become suspicious of Karr. Tracey produced a documentary in 2004 called "Who Killed JonBenet?" A woman who answered the phone at a number under his name said he didn't live there anymore; his office phone mailbox was full.

From another thread -- maybe an accomplice? Very interesting.

281 posted on 08/17/2006 6:23:17 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: Rte66

I don't know how to take this piece of info. I know at the time of the murder I clearly heard that there was a Christmas party at the Ramseys house. Not just heard it once but numerous times. Was that just another mistake in reporting by the media? Or had there also been a Christmas party there some other night and that was a confusion to the issue. If true, this is the first I heard of it.


282 posted on 08/17/2006 6:23:38 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Lurker
I think Patsy Ramsey took over his mind and robotically caused him to do it. Now that she has died...he has been freed from her evil mental control.

I am not sure of that...but I am positive that Patsy is responsible.
284 posted on 08/17/2006 6:29:09 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: spectre

I don't know. I want to see what kind of evidence they have against him. If they have DNA then I'll believe it.

I'd like someone to ask him how well he knew the Ramseys. He clearly was in touch with the guy in Colorado who did the documentary ... and with Patsy.

Lin Wood, who I personally think is human slime (just my opinion) is all over this. And it is interesting that this comes out just immediately after Patsy died.

The ranson note is going to have to be explained. How did he know the exact amount of John's bonus? And other oddities in the note. And the 911 call nags me.

I'm anxious to see what comes out in the next few days. I hope this is the guy but ...


285 posted on 08/17/2006 6:30:47 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Anachronism

Valid questions all.


286 posted on 08/17/2006 6:32:55 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: varina davis

I understand this Tracey guy is a somewhat unsavory self promotor.


287 posted on 08/17/2006 6:33:59 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Rte66
Suppose, suppose....the little turd was "flown in" with a family as the baby sitter.

That makes sense if the family that flew him in ski and want to club and party etc..and need someone on a continuous basis especially through the Holidays.

Best guess is a Ramsey company "big shot" rep who lives elsewhere and might know about the $118,000 thing.

Who knows, the 118,000 thing might have been a topic of conversation at the party and "ticked of" the perp. But I think the pieces will fall easily into place when we know everything.

Don't see a "prominent" lawyer raising their hand to defend him.

288 posted on 08/17/2006 6:41:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Boy, I really hope this is the guy, but early on I'm having my doubts.

So far I haven't seen any news reports that indicate he has even been to Colorado (no jobs listed, etc.) and his wife seemed pretty definite when she said he was at their home that Christmas.

Any chance that these 'unknown details' this guy is supposed to know about the murder were given to him (even accidentally) by the professor he was corresponding with for years.

I also haven't seen any news reports that say anything about any DNA match. Someone can correct me if there has been one.

Like I said, I REALLY hope this is the guy, but my gut tells me he's a whacko pedophile who was obsessed with JonBenet and will say anything to inject himself in the case to be associated with her.


289 posted on 08/17/2006 6:50:40 AM PDT by LegionofDorkness (A Proud South Park Conservative)
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To: BunnySlippers

He didn't know the Ramseys. Michael Tracey, the English guy who did the three documentaries promoting the Ramseys' innocence, got ahold of this guy online when Karr first wrote him an email, asking questions for his supposed "term paper" on men who kill children.

Then Tracey strung him along for a couple of years - I will resist the temptation to say what I think about this - and urged him to contact the parents and grandparents for his paper. Karr did talk to GPP (Grandpa Paugh) and Nedra, but John and Patsy refused to talk to him.

(Now I need to look at my notes which are packed away - there was a guy who confessed once before who convinced John he knew things about the crime that no one else knew - but he asked John for $3000 to come to Atlanta or maybe meet him in Boulder and bring his mother. John turned him down. He was in CA, but I can't think of his name.)

However, somewhere along the line, Tracey must have talked Patsy into emailing with Karr in the past few months or so, because several articles say they "talked about many things." See? I think this is all so tainted. Like, Tracey felt the guy out to see how malleable he might be and whether he'd be amenable to the power of suggestion.

I would think in pedo circles, this would be the coup de gras, the piece de resistance, to claim Jon Benet's murder as his. He has a guy who is hanging all over him, a more butch man, nice looking, there in Thailand with him who has all the earmarks of being his "good friend".

There may be some rarefied atmosphere of the elite inner circles of pervdom which none of us could even conjure up if we tried - and in that "world," they just travel anywhere and do whatever, whenever and however they want.

What is so repulsive to me about this guy (since I'm not convinced he's telling the truth) is the way he "vamps" and looks "coquettish" when answering press questions, like a little girl. More like he wanted to *be* JonBenet than *do* anything to JonBenet. Sort of a Mdme Butterfly.

Ick, ick, ick.


290 posted on 08/17/2006 6:51:23 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

He's just Creepy McCreepy.


291 posted on 08/17/2006 6:53:15 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Mo1

Michael Mann is writing the script as we type. This guy would scare Buffalo Bill.


292 posted on 08/17/2006 7:00:15 AM PDT by kinghorse (I calls them like I sees them)
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To: BunnySlippers

Read about him on yahoo and felt red flags...something ain't right.

Logged on to FR and found I wasn't alone.

Hmph...


293 posted on 08/17/2006 7:02:26 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (It's hot outside.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Don't see a "prominent" lawyer raising their hand to defend him.

Maybe that sleeze who "defended" Snottie Peterson will come to this fella's defense?!

294 posted on 08/17/2006 7:03:04 AM PDT by nfldgirl ("I love a good rant every now-n-then!")
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To: Rte66

I agree. Thanks for the extra info. Forgot that Greta interviewed his brother last night.

But, so far, I am not seeing anything that convinces me that this is the guy.

However, he is clearly enjoying the attention.


295 posted on 08/17/2006 7:03:47 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Sacajaweau

In 1996, he had his own family - wife, 3 sons. He was teaching in AL and I guess doing his "rental business" and "restoring houses." His fantasy resume said "Victorian mansions," but who in the world does that as a business and calls them "mansions"?

His father seems to have several homes in Atlanta and in Lynn, Massachusetts, for some reason - perhaps inherited - and I'm just guessing those are the rentals and Victorians he probably worked on. His brother and dad are in business together in ATL and own or co-own all those properties. They had RE licenses but have let them all lapse.

I haven't figured his family part out yet, meaning family of origin. The wife and kids - I can see he just disappeared in 2001, either coming out as gay or coming out as pedo, if that's what he is.

Oh, I know what I was going to comment on - it's funny that one of the case followers used to harp all the time on the "babysitter" theme about Burke's best friend's "male nanny" who was a college kid always lurking around. His name was Nathan.

Nathan/Nathaniel is John Mark Karr's brother's name and he is a lot younger - 7 years. BUT, that lurking manservant was in Boulder, not in Atlanta, where the Karr family lived at the time.


296 posted on 08/17/2006 7:04:07 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: auto power

His brother said that he was in Georgia at that Christmas which already makes the stories different.


297 posted on 08/17/2006 7:07:32 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: LegionofDorkness

Last night in an interview with Greta his brother said he was in Georgia that Christmas. But then the brother didn't know he was divorced or even out of the States. Weird interview with the brother.


298 posted on 08/17/2006 7:11:03 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Rte66

Would that be the brother that was interviewed by Greta last night?


299 posted on 08/17/2006 7:12:02 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: varina davis; BunnySlippers
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Press conference for some of our answers.

This guy is creeping me out. We should start keeping score of his lies..

1. Her death was an accident..

sw

300 posted on 08/17/2006 7:16:09 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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