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Police fears of threat to Muslims
BBC News ^ | 08/11/06

Posted on 08/11/2006 10:05:04 AM PDT by presidio9

The police have increased their presence in areas with Muslim populations in the UK to deter attacks after the latest terror arrests. Officers are investigating a small fire at a mosque in Chester but say it is too early to say whether it was in response to the alleged terror plot.

The small blaze was quickly extinguished and no-one was injured.

The head of the Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were "fully behind" efforts to prevent attacks.

Dr Mohammed Abdul Bari said the community supported curbs on terrorism, but warned of "a distance" growing between them and the police.

Peter Fahey, the communities and diversities spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO), said forces would be "very alive" to any threats.

He added that he was aware that there was a distrust among the Muslim community.

"It is something that we take very very seriously and we are working all the time to break that down," he said.

Dr Bari warned police must be very careful, as the failed raid in east London in June created "a distance" between them and Muslims.

"The people that I have been listening to - the old, young, men and women - they are saying that they are fully behind the police when it comes to national security and the public safety," he said in an interview with BBC Radio Leeds. He called on his community to "work together" with detectives, saying: "This is our society and we could have been victims as well, so there is no second thought on that."

In June, Dr Bari warned that trust between the Muslim community and police could be damaged following the raid on a house in Forest Gate.

A Muslim man was shot in the shoulder and was arrested along with his brother.

Both were later released without charge and the police watchdog, the Independent Police Complaints Commission, judged the shooting to have been accidental.

Home Secretary John Reid has urged people of all communities and religions in the UK to join together to overcome "those who wish to harm us".

However, police "need to do a lot more thinking" before that can happen, argued Fahad Ansari from the Islamic Human Rights Commission, because their intelligence was "flawed".

"For four years we've been seeing more and more innocent people being harassed and demonised," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

"We've seen very few terrorists being captured but a lot of innocent people destroyed.

"The more you alienate a community, it's not going to be good for future relations."

'Backlash'

Muhammad Abul Kalam from the Muslim Safety Forum said that there was generally an increase in Islamophobic attacks following events such as Thursday's raids, in which 24 people were arrested.

"We simply don't want to see any kind of backlash unleashed against ordinary Muslims because of what has happened."

He said he believed his organisation had received no contact so far from the Metropolitan Police, despite having an ongoing advisory role for the security services.

"We'd like them to open those channels of communication and talk to them so that we can reassure the community leaders we speak to," he told BBC News. Meanwhile Khalid Mahmood, the Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr, said he accepted that young Muslims disagreed with the government's policy on terrorism, and this could lead to a minority turning to being led astray.

Some young people were being "sectioned off" and "brainwashed", he added.

And on occasions, "very new converts to the religion" did not have "a fundamental understanding of their own religion", he said.

But the Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, said he did not believe that Islam was the real cause of any terrorist plots.

"Most of them are doing it because they are alienated, because they have been given a vision which is so imaginatively wicked that they believe we can build a better world than actually exists," he claimed.

A spokesman for Islamic political organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir said he would "urge caution before jumping to conclusions" about the 24 people arrested over the latest alleged terror plot.

"We hope there is no repeat of the media hysteria and police leaks that followed the Forest Gate raids when reports of 'chemical vests' and 'bomb factories' turned out not to be true," said Imran Waheed.


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To: presidio9
The police have increased their presence in areas with Muslim populations in the UK to deter attacks after the latest terror arrests.

Doesn't say who'd be instigating the attacks, now, does it?

Could it be the police have concerns about.....Muslims instigating attacks?

41 posted on 08/11/2006 10:40:11 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline has been Reutered. (Can you tell?))
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To: Personal Responsibility
Police fears of threat to Muslims Amazing how the headline never reads "Most feel threatened by Muslims", isn't it?

More amazing is this fact: In Iraq the Muslims are in fear of other Muslims. It is OK for Sunnis and Shias to hate and fear each other in Iraq, but the British people should remain neutral in regards to suspicions of Muslims in their own country. Doesn't quite make sense, does it?

A_R

42 posted on 08/11/2006 10:42:15 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: presidio9
'The head of the Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were "fully behind" efforts to prevent attacks."
Which means that one needs to watch one's back and that's distracting from the immediate task at hand - the efforts to prevent attacks. It would be better if they were "fully in front".
43 posted on 08/11/2006 10:46:04 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: freerepublicer

What's truly amazing is that you never see these protests and these flags and crowds over in the country/countries they so love and adore.

These people want to be British citizens, or American citizens because the country they fled was so terrible, yet they still want to speak their native tongue and fly the native flag and defend the enemy.

(smacking self in forehead) I just don't get it.


44 posted on 08/11/2006 10:50:36 AM PDT by beachn4fun (FReeper Canteen ~ Here for our Troops, Allies, and their families 24/7/365.)
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To: Publius6961

How do we know that she is a woman?


45 posted on 08/11/2006 11:04:25 AM PDT by twigs
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To: presidio9
The head of the Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were "fully behind" efforts to prevent attacks.

Like Brutus.

46 posted on 08/11/2006 11:05:34 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The worst thing about censorship is XXXXXXXXXXXXX)
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To: presidio9

If you heard Melanie Philips discuss her book, Londistan, on Rush at noon today, you got a good idea of how far the UK has bent over backwards for these idiots. That big mosque they're building in London is financed by a known terrorist/Muslim org. But that's okay.


47 posted on 08/11/2006 11:11:55 AM PDT by hershey
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To: presidio9
The police have increased their presence in areas with Muslim populations in the UK to deter attacks after the latest terror arrests

If they are so afraid, take all muslims into protective custody and put them in a camp somewhere ... maybe the village of Unst in the Shetland Islands would be a nice spot.

Or even better ... Cormoros Island near Madagascar would be about perfect.

48 posted on 08/11/2006 11:32:32 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: twigs
How do we know that she is a woman?

Because she was reported as such on another thread.

49 posted on 08/11/2006 11:58:35 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: presidio9
But the Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, said he did not believe that Islam was the real cause of any terrorist plots.

"Most of them are doing it because they are alienated, because they have been given a vision which is so imaginatively wicked that they believe we can build a better world than actually exists," he claimed.

Don't build archbishops like they used to, do they?

Since when is it in their job description to make excuses for scummy Saracen heathens, rather than convert them?

50 posted on 08/11/2006 12:19:51 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: presidio9
"We've seen very few terrorists being captured but a lot of innocent people destroyed."

Whoa! Can you back that assertion up with bodies?

51 posted on 08/11/2006 12:34:17 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascists' tactics are all War Crimes according to the Geneva Convention.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

For crimony's sake, put those policemen IN the mosques to protect the Brits.


52 posted on 08/11/2006 12:48:31 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: presidio9

It seems they have the threat matrix backwards.


53 posted on 08/11/2006 1:13:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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To: presidio9

Apart from terrorism, this sort of story never deals with the mass of street crime nominal Muslims are guilty of in Britain, including a significant number of racial assaults. The natives have more than one reason to hate them.


54 posted on 08/11/2006 10:33:16 PM PDT by jordan8
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