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Posted on 08/11/2006 6:36:37 AM PDT by Agent Smith
I ask my fellow freepers indulgence for this vanity, because I believe it is too important to be buried in the back of the forum.
Can a good Muslim be a good American? I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation...perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The war is bigger than most Americans know or understand.
Show me where I attacked you personally? How about clarifying why you chose Arabic for your screen name?
You have mail. ;-)
There's nothing wrong with being Arabic, or Chinese or any other race.
Tell me why I am wrong. Engage in conversation. Correct me if you think you can. I made statements about Islam. Not you. And I stand by them. Just waiting for a response.
Art thou a little thin-skinned with respect to Islam and my views concerning it???
You believe Islam is from Satan. I can't "correct" that because it's your opinion. The only thing I can try to correct is a misconception. For example, in my posts to Michael Goldsberry, I repeated tried to convince him that Allah is an Arabic and Persian word for God, and that it is used by Arab Christians and Arab Jews. I've gotten some interesting answers from him, and I conclude from his statements that he thinks anyone who uses the word Allah, Christian or not, is referring to a separate God.
Muslims are instructed to perform good works in conjunction with their belief in God. That is true.
The people of Yahweh hated beyond any reason. And that is NOT of Jesus, the Christ, the son of Yahweh. I could go on and on with other examples.
Can you clarify this for me?
You say that you don't think a good Muslim can also be a good American. I can't "correct" this because once again this is an opinion.
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Bingo!
The people of Yahweh [are] hated beyond any reason.
Can you clarify this for me?
Does not the Koran instruct Muslims to kill Jews and Christians?
From a opinion, misconception perspective, all religion is based upon it. There are few facts with regard to religion. Hadn't had Satan directly tell me his is the orginator of religion, that is my belief.
If a man is known by his works, look at Islam with respect to Christianity. Christian evangelize, Islam convert, dhimmi, or cut of the head. There is no jihad (holy war) concept in Christianity but there is in Islam. Mohammed was a military general that espoused conquering other people (death), Christ never fought any military battles (life). Christianity turns the other cheek, Islam has no concept. Christ performed miracles, the Koran is the only Islamic miracle. The good works of Islam are not with respect to infidels such as I.
And why would Islam build a temple DIRECTLY on top of the Jewish temple? To show it's preeminance over Judaism.
Have to leave. Will check back later. (And this is just a start of the reasonings and examples)
My thoughts exactly. I don't buy this stuff.
According to Dr. Siddiqi, The Qur'an does not instruct the killing of Jews and Christians.
False. His name is Jesus.
According to Dr. Siddiqi, The Qur'an does not instruct the killing of Jews and Christians.
"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
This time I have to correct something. Jihad is not holy war; it is best translated as struggle.
Muslims do not consider The Qur'an to be a miracle. They consider it to be the final word of God. Muslims do not deny that Jesus performed miracles.
Probably the most frequently cited example of a good work in The Qur'an is giving alms to the poor. The fact that you are not Muslim is unrelated.
Which temples are you referring to?
You gotta be kidding me!
According to Dr. Siddiqi, The Qur'an does not instruct the killing of Jews and Christians.
According to ex-muslims, such as Dr Ali Sina, it does.
Is that why almost all the aid that is given to Muslim countries in time of strife comes from the Christian countries, and Israel?
I'm sorry, but you've confused me.
I concluded that you believe Allah to be different from the Judeo-Christian God, even though Arab Christians use the word Allah. You affirmed my conclusion.
Then, when I infer that you believe Arab Christians worship a different God than you do, you say false.
Which is it? Do they worship the same God you do or not?
I respect your belief that Muslims do not worship the same God you do. But, all I want to show is that Allah is merely the term for the God of Abraham in another language.
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