Can a good Muslim be a good American?

A friend who knows | 8/11/2006 | Agent Smith

[farmer18th]

Let's try to put it plainly: you are asking a stupid question.

Here's why: suppose the vast majority of Russians had nothing to do with Stalin's genocide. That doesn't make them less culpable, if they have signed on to an ideology--communism--that justifies that terror. Suppose you accept the dubious premise that we are at war with "terror."

What fuels that terror?

Islam. Those who share that faith have the burden of its multi-millenial record of tyranny.

[Lazamataz]

So what do you propose to do with the 4 to 6 million American muslims?

Identify. Collect. Deport.

[Ace of Spades]

Nothing in the Constitution allows for guilt by association. No matter what you think of Russians under Stalin, they're not guilty in any American sense of the word.

Are Muslims guilty of a crime, yes or no. If yes, then what.

[kellynla]

"I don't care what they do in Baghdad."

Well I and my fellow Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and their families and friends do care!
Especially those sevice men and women who have paid the ultimate price.

Of course, if you have never served and/or didn't lose a family member or friend on 9/11 and/or since; you probably wouldn't care!

Typical selfish Freeper response, if it doesn't affect me personally then "I don't care."

Well for your sake, I hope the next 9/11 type terrorist attack and/or the WOT doesn't kill a friend and/or family member...
but if it does; maybe THEN you WILL finally care.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

[Realism]

On the contrary, it is the Saudies, Pakistanis, the Palestinians who destroy Christian churches.

Shall we follow their example, or would you prefer they follow ours?

[Joan Kerrey]

I would define devout as not a nut job.

Fundamentalists of any religion are nut jobs in my view.

Sorry if I hurt any feelings but take a close look at the behavior of radicals of any religion and their rejection of any thought process that varies from their own and come to your own conclusion.

[highball]

"So what do you propose to do with the 4 to 6 million American muslims?"

Identify. Collect. Deport.

Very sad, to find this kind of nonsense on a site devoted to preserving our freedoms.

[Agent Smith]

Does the simple fact of an individuals advocacy of Communism, National Socialism, or the Thuggie death cult make them a domestic enemy of the United States? Just curious.

[MEGoody]

Can a good Muslim be a good American?

Depends on what one means by 'good Muslim' and 'good American', I suppose.

[airborne]

I know! I know!

I'm just blowing off steam.

What's really going to happen is we won't do a damn thing until Jihad comes full force into the streets of America.

Then we'll have a Police State and urban warfare in every city with large Muslim populations.

[sinkspur]

Most Muslims are sheep. They follow their leaders, and they have been unable--here and across the globe--to restrain their most "devout" co-religionists from committing the most hideous, merciless, godless acts of savagery.

Your statements grow more and more ridiculous.

Now, you reduce American Muslims to a kind of sub-human level, all because they don't jump up and run to Iraq to face down Moqtada al-Sadr.

You're reduced to silly non-sequiturs to make your points.

Why is an American Muslim to blame for what some nutbag in Iraq or Somalia does?

Did you condemn those two white "Christian" men in Phoenix who shot, at random, six Hispanics?

If you didn't, why not?

And what are YOU doing to keep white Christian men from committing serial murder?

[MEGoody]

Identify. Collect. Deport.

Under what law? And where do you propose we 'deport' those who are American born?

[farmer18th]

Nothing in the Constitution allows for guilt by association. No matter what you think of Russians under Stalin, they're not guilty in any American sense of the word. Are Muslims guilty of a crime, yes or no. If yes, then what.

This is a bit like saying, in war, (they are calling this a war on terror), that "this soldier didn't fire a gun, so I won't take him prisoner."

But I do take your point. Islam should be made illegal, so that we deport them all back to Yemen.

[delacoert]

I'm still search for the list of serial murder who haven't been convicted yet...

While I'm doing doing that, perhaps you can weigh in on whether or not Raider, Dahmer, Burowitz, Bundy, etc. were all all "civilized" because they were simply Americans before they were convicted.

[wtc911]

Being a Moslem football player at an all Moslem school does not equate to the kind of evidence I offered you earlier about the people I know.

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All muslim school? A bit disingenuous there zookie...it's a public HS and the fact is that the two muslim American terrorists were described in the same terms as those you use to describe your muslim friends.

[cyborg]

I think the government is going to use this as an excuse to strip us of our citizen rights. Most people love peace and safety :( BTW, I moved to a very rural area just for that reason.

[Lazamataz]

Very sad, to find this kind of nonsense on a site devoted to preserving our freedoms.

It was equally sad to see that we needed to do similar things in WWII.

War is sad.

[Lazamataz]

Under what law?

A wartime-powers act.

And where do you propose we 'deport' those who are American born?

Greenland.

[wtc911]

I think the government is going to use this as an excuse to strip us of our citizen rights.

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When did you become a 'big brother' 1984 conspiracy theorist?

[highball]

"I don't care what they do in Baghdad."

Well I and my fellow Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and their families and friends do care!
Especially those sevice men and women who have paid the ultimate price.

Of course, if you have never served and/or didn't lose a family member or friend on 9/11 and/or since; you probably wouldn't care!

Typical selfish Freeper response, if it doesn't affect me personally then "I don't care."

Well for your sake, I hope the next 9/11 type terrorist attack and/or the WOT doesn't kill a friend and/or family member...
but if it does; maybe THEN you WILL finally care.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

Way to take my quote out of context there, Kelly.

I don't care what they do in Baghdad because I don't let Baghdad define freedom. I don't want to let Baghdad's public policy become our public policy.

And, not that it matters, but I lost several friends in 9/11. Most New Yorkers did, at least those of us that work in the financial industry. It makes me value freedom all the more, and makes me less likely to look to Baghdad as an example of what American society ought to be.