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God's Chosen People (Destruction of Israel called for by famous Norwegian writer)
Norsk Israel Senter (Translation of original Aftenposten article) ^ | August 5, 2006 | Jostein Gaarder

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:12:09 AM PDT by Basel2005

Israel is now history. We no longer recognize the State of Israel. There is no way back. The State of Israel has raped the world's recognition and will not achieve peace until it lays down its arms. The State of Israel, in its present form is history, writes Jostein Gaarder.

There's no turning back. It's time to learn a new lesson: We no longer recognize the State of Israel. We could not recognize the apartheid regime of South Africa, nor did we recognize the Afghani Taliban regime. Then there were many who did not recognize Saddam Hussein's Iraq or the Serbs' ethnic cleansing. We need to get used to the idea: The State of Israel, in its current form, is history.

We don't believe in the notion of God's Chosen People. We laugh at this people's capriciousness and weep at its misdeeds. To act as God's Chosen People is not only stupid and arrogant, but a crime against humanity. We call it racism.

Limits to tolerance

There are limits to our patience, and there are limits to our tolerance. We do not believe in divine promises as a justification for occupation and apartheid. We have left the Middle Ages behind. We laugh uneasily at those who still believe that the god of flora, fauna and the galaxies has selected one people in particular as his favorite and given it silly, stone tablets, burning bushes and a license to kill.

We call baby killers "baby killers" and will never accept that people such as these have a divine or historic mandate excusing their outrages. We just say: Shame on all apartheid, shame on ethnic cleansing and shame on every terrorist strike against civilians whether carried out by Hamas, the Hezbollah or the State of Israel! Unscrupulous art of war

We acknowledge, and pay heed to, Europe's deep responsibility for the plight of the Jews, for the disgraceful harassment, the pogroms and the Holocaust. It was historically and morally necessary for the Jews to get their own home. However, the State of Israel, with its unscrupulous art of war and its disgusting weapons, has massacred its own legitimacy. It has systematically flaunted International Law, international conventions, and countless UN resolutions and can no longer expect protection from the same. It has carpet bombed the recognition of the world. But fear not! The Tribulation will soon be over. The State of Israel has seen its Soweto.

We are now at the watershed. There's no turning back. The State of Israel has raped the recognition of the world and shall have no peace until it lays down its arms. Without defense, without skin

May the spirit and the word blow the apartheid walls of Israel down. The State of Israel does not exist. It is now without defense, without skin. May the world therefore have mercy upon the civilian population; for our prophecies of doom are not aimed at the civilian individuals.

We wish the people of Israel well, nothing but wellness, but we reserve the right to not eat Jaffa oranges as long as they are foul tasting and poisonous. It was endurable for some years to live without eating the blue grapes of apartheid.

They celebrate their triumphs

We don't believe that Israel grieves any more for the forty killed Lebanese children than it has wailed over the forty years spent in the desert three thousand years ago. We note that many Israelis celebrate such triumphs in the same manner they once cheered the plagues of the Lord as "fitting punishment" for the people of Egypt. (In that tale, the Lord God of Israel appears as an insatiable sadist.) We ask ourselves if most Israelis think that one Israeli life is worth more than the forty Palestinian or Lebanese lives.

For we've seen pictures of little Israeli girls writing hateful greetings on the bombs about to be dropped on the civilian populations of Lebanon and Palestine. The little Israeli girls are not cute when they strut with glee at the death and torment on the other side of the fronts. The retribution of blood vengeance

We do not recognize the rhetoric of the State of Israel. We do not recognize the spiral of retribution and blood vengeance that comes with "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." We do not recognize the principle of ten or a thousand Arab eyes for one Israeli eye. We do not recognize collective punishment or population thinning out as a political weapon. Two thousand years have passed since a Jewish rabbi criticized the ancient doctrine of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth."

He said: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." We do not recognize a state founded on anti-humanistic principles and on the ruins of an archaic national and warlike religion. Or, as Albert Schweitzer expressed it: "Humanitarianism consists of never sacrificing a human being for a cause." Compassion and forgiveness

We do not recognize the old Kingdom of David as a model for the 21st century map of the Middle East. The Jewish rabbi claimed two thousand years ago that the Kingdom of God is not a martial restoration of the Kingdom of David; the Kingdom of God is within us and amongst us. The Kingdom of God is compassion and forgiveness.

Two thousand years have passed since the Jewish rabbi disarmed and thoroughly humanized the old rhetoric of war. Even in his time, the first Zionist terrorists were operating.

Israel doesn't listen

For two thousand years, we have rehearsed the syllabus of humanism, but Israel doesn't listen. It wasn't the Pharisee who helped the man who lay by the wayside, having fallen prey to robbers. It was a Samaritan; today we would say, a Palestinian. We are humans firstly - then Christian, Muslim, or Jew. Or as the Jewish rabbi said: "And if you greet your brethren only, what more do you do than others?" We do not accept the kidnapping of soldiers. But neither do we accept the deportation of whole populations or the abduction of legally elected parliamentarians and government ministers.

We recognize the State of Israel of 1948, but not the one of 1967. It is the State of Israel that fails to recognize, respect or defer to the internationally lawful Israeli state of 1948. Israel wants more - more water and more villages. To obtain this there are those who want, with God's assistance, a final solution to the Palestinian problem. 'The Palestinians have so many other countries', certain Israeli politicians have argued; we have only one.

The U.S. or the world?

Or as the foremost protector of the State of Israel puts it: "May God continue to bless America." A little child took note of that. She turned to her mother, saying: "Why does the President always end his speeches with 'God bless America'? Why not, 'God bless the world'?"

Then there was a Norwegian poet who let out this childlike sigh of the heart: "Why doth Humanity so slowly progress?" It was he who wrote so beautifully of the Jew and the Jewess. But he rejected the notion of God's Chosen People. He personally liked to call himself a Muslim.

Calmness and mercy

We do not recognize the State of Israel. Not today, not as of this writing, not in the hour of grief and wrath. If the entire Israeli nation should fall to its own devices and parts of the population has to flee their occupied areas into another Diaspora, then we say: May their surroundings stay calm and show them mercy. It is an eternal crime, without mitigating circumstances, to lay hand on refugees and a stateless people.

Peace and free passage for the evacuating, civilian population no longer protected by a State. Shoot not at the fugitives! Take not aim at them! They are vulnerable now -- like snails without shells, vulnerable as slow caravans of the Palestinian and Lebanese refugees, defenseless as the women, children and elderly of Qana, Gaza, Sabra and Shatilla. Give the Israeli refugees shelter; give them milk and honey!

Let not one Israeli child pay with his life. Far too many children and civilians have already been murdered.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: antisemitic; antisemitism; barf; barfalert; nazi; norway; quisling; theophobia
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To: mollynme
The poor man is all upset and shocked that he has been so misinterpreted.

Let's see...he's utterly ignorant about the religous and historical topics he wrote so authoritatively about...he's so arrogant that he thinks that he speaks for the whole world...he's so hate-filled that he cannot abide by the idea of a nation run by Jews that actually defends its existence and the lives of its citizens...

...and on top of that he's an utter moron for not being able to comprehend that his very clear words of hatred have been understood for what they are - vile, naked anti-Semitism.

I'm glad the ashhole is looking over his shoulder. He should also look out for errant bolts of lightening, stray asteroids and the like, because Someone Else may have also "misinterpreted" his words.

Putz. Hateful, ignorant, stupid putz. Though he must be a load of laughs at soccer riots, bar fights and neo-Nazi rallies.

61 posted on 08/10/2006 3:28:58 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: dragonblustar

I just love your smiley... how can I get it?


62 posted on 08/10/2006 5:09:20 PM PDT by republican4ever (Israel's fate determines the fate of the world, whether we believe and like it or not.)
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To: Basel2005; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; Slings and Arrows; judicial meanz; ...




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63 posted on 08/10/2006 6:21:00 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Publius6961
Can't disagree with these points:

"We don't believe in the notion of God's Chosen People. We laugh at this people's capriciousness and weep at its misdeeds. To act as God's Chosen People is not only stupid and arrogant, but a crime against humanity. We call it racism."

Does anyone seriously believe that any group of humans are "Gods chosen people"? I can't see how anyone could disagree with this.

"We do not believe in divine promises as a justification for occupation and apartheid. We have left the Middle Ages behind."

Again, who can disagree? Does anyone seriously believe that God supports Israel over Palestine or the is in favor of the invasion of Lebanon, or the occupation of the West Bank.

You can disagree with the man, but these points seem pretty reasonable.

Frankly, I think it bizarre that a *Norwegian* should give a damn about Israel one way or the other.
64 posted on 08/10/2006 6:56:44 PM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Basel2005

Simple minded, primitive, Godless bunk - supercilious nordic in thinking.

Is this what passes for writing in Old Europe? God help them.


65 posted on 08/10/2006 7:07:14 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: Basel2005
Old habits die hard - or not at all in the case this vicious, antiSemitic, pro-jihadist traitor.


66 posted on 08/10/2006 7:09:40 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Basel2005

I'm going to hazard a guess that Jostein Gaarder will have gone by the wayside a long time before Israel does.


67 posted on 08/10/2006 7:19:59 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel. We're all Jews now.)
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To: Basel2005
People like Jostein Gaarder are proof of the need for Israel to exist.
68 posted on 08/10/2006 7:21:20 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: JamesP81
If this b**** is so tough, let him try to stop Israel. I think there's something the in the Bible about God not allowing Israel to be destroyed before He returns...

Not to mention the divine promise, "I will bless them that bless you (Israel) and curse them that curse you."

Wonder what the Almighty has planned for this guy.

69 posted on 08/10/2006 7:22:56 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Bergen

Thank you for your courage, to stand up and defend your country's honor against a hate-monger like this...and your English is just fine.


70 posted on 08/10/2006 7:27:32 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Bergen

How do you say "frozen brain" in Norwegian, because that appears to be this guy's problem.


71 posted on 08/10/2006 7:32:34 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Basel2005

There are some people that just desperately need to get the s**t beaten out of them, and this writer is one of those guys.

Mark


72 posted on 08/10/2006 7:34:57 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: rcocean
Does anyone seriously believe that any group of humans are "Gods chosen people"?

Yes! How's the air up there in your ivory tower?

73 posted on 08/10/2006 7:42:20 PM PDT by GoLightly
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74 posted on 08/10/2006 7:52:18 PM PDT by franksolich (the bell tolls for thee, the bell tolls for Fat Che)
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To: rcocean

Yes I can disagree with those points. The Jews are God's Chosen people. Nuff said.


75 posted on 08/10/2006 8:06:13 PM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out Iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: tdewey10

Incidently, the only well known neo nazi group in Norway, quickly embraced this clown.

They still chided him for not rejecting the holocost. Then, he would be welcome as an honorary member.


76 posted on 08/10/2006 8:40:57 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Basel2005

disproportionate you say?

How little things have changed.

The Geneva convention based on Jewish law.


77 posted on 08/10/2006 8:42:00 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

Sadly, Noam Chomsky or much of our anti-war left probably could have written this piece of &*(^. They're probably kicking himself that they didn't.

The Democrats have already kicked out one Jew for supporting the War and Israel -- how long before they start kicking out the rest?


78 posted on 08/10/2006 8:46:51 PM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out Iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: rjp2005

You know,

Spengler of Asia Times argues that is why anti-semitism is particularly strong in dissapearing cultures. They cannot stand to see the ancient jews still going strong, whilst their own peoples are heading for the dustbin of history.


79 posted on 08/10/2006 8:47:49 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Basel2005
...nor did we recognize the Afghani Taliban regime.

I bet Norway did...anyone have a source for what nations recognized the Taliban government?

80 posted on 08/10/2006 8:48:51 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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