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Police: Feds Won't Pick Up Known Illegal Immigrants
wftv ^ | August 2, 2006

Posted on 08/04/2006 9:28:04 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

PALM BAY, Fla. -- The immigration issue is heating up in Central Florida. Police in one community said they are running across illegal immigrants every day, but are getting fed up with the feds not doing anything about it.

Palm Bay police officers said they had no choice but let people go who they know are in the country illegally, because federal authorities won't pick up the undocumented workers. It comes just as the city council considers a new law that could lead to fines for the employers of illegal immigrants.

Palm Bay police said they come across as many as a dozen illegal immigrants a day, and most of the time there is little if anything they can do.

When Palm Bay police pulled over a minivan for racing down Babcock Street at nearly 20 miles over the speed limit, officers found seven illegal immigrants inside. They pulled out Mexican IDs and nothing more.

"No green card, no work visa's, nothing that said he has any right to be in the United States," said Officer Mike Veina, Palm Bay Police Department.

Police brought in a translator and took pictures to document all the citrus pickers, but that was about all they could do. Even though it's their jurisdiction, police said federal agents rarely get involved.

"You call INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service), they give you the runaround. They tell you to call border patrol and forward you back to INS. Nobody makes a decision on it," Veina said.

Palm Bay police said they are usually only left with one option, release them. It costs officers lots of time and many find it frustrating.

"You pull them over and you are spending at least an hour now trying to identify them," Veina said.

"They are here in the country, illegally, but where do you take them, the jail? Immigration won't pick them up. They will just sit there forever," Veina said.

"Each case is different and complex. We don't turn a blind eye to those who violate the laws, but we have to prioritize enforcement for cases which affect national security and threaten public safety," said Barbara Gonzales, a spokesperson for the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

But police said, with no documentation showing who the illegal immigrants are, they have no idea if they are wanted or if they are dangerous. Police said, if a proposed ordinance passes in Palm Bay, with that traffic stop they could find out who their employer is and fine them. They hope that would deter employers from hiring illegals and they might look somewhere else for work.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aliens; feds; fl; illegal; immigrant; immigration
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Anyone in DC listening?
1 posted on 08/04/2006 9:28:06 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

"Anyone in DC listening?"

Listen to you & I? C'mon get real. All they see is a sea of potential amnestied new voters.


2 posted on 08/04/2006 9:33:30 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: stainlessbanner

This is outrageous.


3 posted on 08/04/2006 9:34:01 PM PDT by phantomworker (Live life so completely, when death comes like a thief in the night, there is nothing left to steal.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Tony Snow says the enforcement problem has been taken care of and it's time to move on to amnesty and guest workers.

He says Congress is now coming over to the President's side.

What's the problem?

(sarcasm filter back on)


4 posted on 08/04/2006 9:38:00 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

If Snow said that he's out of touch. This report is from folks on the street.


5 posted on 08/04/2006 9:43:18 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner; JulieRNR21
Time to let our Congressional delegation hear about this. Palm Bay is in Rep. Dave Weldon's district (15). I doubt either of our Senators would be of help on this one. Still, it might be nice to pin Nellie down on this one. Katherine, are you listening?
6 posted on 08/04/2006 9:45:02 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Tom Gallagher, the anti-Crist)
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To: stainlessbanner

Actually, he did say that.

The first he said a couple of weeks ago after the National Guard was put on the border washing ICE trucks.

Yesterday he commented that he sees the House coming over to the President's version on immigration reform (amnesty).


7 posted on 08/04/2006 9:46:59 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: NonValueAdded
From Weldon's web site:
Weldon Joins 72 House Members in Sending Immigration Message to Senate: Enforcement First, No Amnesty

Weldon and 72 additional Members of Congress sent a letter to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman, Arlen Specter outlining “fundamental principles” necessary for true immigration reform and expressing grave concern over several of the Senate proposals. Fundamental principles include: border security, interior enforcement, enforcement first and no amnesty.

Uh, Dave, look in your back yard, dude.
8 posted on 08/04/2006 9:47:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Tom Gallagher, the anti-Crist)
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To: oldbill

Unbelievable.


9 posted on 08/04/2006 9:50:04 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: phantomworker
This happened to a friend of mine here in Panama City Beach, FL.

Some illegal alien Mexicans crashed into his car and damaged it. Police came to the scene of the accident and 'ionvestigated'. The illegal aliens had no ID's, insurance or anything.

The cops let them go and said there was nothing he could do about it with them being illegal immigrants. Had they been U.S. citizens they would have had to pony up, but illegals get a free pass.

No wonder they are pouring over our borders. For them it's a win-win situation. They can't lose.

10 posted on 08/04/2006 9:52:30 PM PDT by capt. norm (Bumper Sticker: Honk if you've never seen an Uzi shoot from a car window.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Jeb to George. "Hey big brother, can you help us out on these illegals down here? George to Jeb. " Hey Jeb, don't you know that these folks are doing jobs that American's don't want to do."
11 posted on 08/04/2006 9:56:29 PM PDT by hodaka
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To: stainlessbanner

So? Handcuff them all in a ring around a light post in front of the local ICE office and call the media whores, print and TV!


12 posted on 08/04/2006 9:58:38 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (john F'n Skerry = Confirmed Spork Weasel)
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To: stainlessbanner

It all starts in the White RINO House..


13 posted on 08/04/2006 10:01:07 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: stainlessbanner
Chertoff and Bush keep saying catch-and-release ended when Bush gave the big Immigration speech several months ago, sort of, for the most part, except....

it still seems to be going on:

ILLEGAL ALIENS BEING SET FREE (THANKS TO I.C. E. AND ITS DERILICTION OF DUTY)
  Posted by seasoned traditionalist
On News/Activism 07/21/2006 10:14:37 AM CDT · 22 replies · 642+ views


Arizona Newspaper ^ | July 20, 2006 | Self
Inmates convicted or cleared of human-smuggling charges and presumed to be Illegal were allowed to walk out of jail without being removed from the country because of a disagreement over jurisdiction between the Sheriff's Office and ICE. At least 17 have walked right out of the jail and into the community - including six who pleaded guilty to human-smuggling felonies - because the ICE refused to transport out of the country the Illegals who were under the controversial coyote law. "Why would they refuse to pick up the felons?" Sheriff Joe Arpaio asked. The reason, according to an ICE spokesman,...


Illegal Immigrants Free To Go
  Posted by Mikey_1962
On News/Activism 06/21/2006 8:51:53 AM CDT · 54 replies · 935+ views


WTOV ^ | 6/21/06 | Mikey_1962
Local police said they intercepted 20 illegal Mexican immigrants, but were ordered by immigration officials to let them go free. Belmont County Sheriff Fred Thompson said his officers were instructed by federal immigration services to let all 20 illegal immigrants go free, and said his department has no choice but to follow the orders from immigration officials. Thompson said officers stopped a van at 3 a.m. Tuesday which was traveling the wrong direction on Interstate 470 in St. Clairsville. The officer discovered 20 illegal Mexican immigrants inside the van, including three who were previously deported. The officer immediately contacted immigration...



14 posted on 08/04/2006 10:02:58 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: stainlessbanner

A bit of irony:

With the impending news that Castro may be dead, Rice and Bush brothers (GW and Jeb) are afraid of a massive exodus from Florida back to Cuba. They have been telling people (Cubans) to settle down, wait-and-see, don't do anything rash (like leave).

Trouble is, if there was a mass exodus of Cubans, they would just replace them with boatloads of Haitians. After all, Team Bush do love those illegals.


15 posted on 08/04/2006 10:10:55 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: capt. norm
The cops let them go and said there was nothing he could do about it with them being illegal immigrants.

Is this still our country or not? DEPORT THEM!

16 posted on 08/04/2006 10:31:49 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (No more lesser evils!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Is this still our country or not? DEPORT THEM!

It's like "Who Ya' Gonna Call?" except there's no "Ghost Busters".

All the law enforcemant agencies point back and forth at each other and, meanwhile, the illegals walk....and are thus encouraged to do even more..

They have spotted our weaknesses.

17 posted on 08/04/2006 10:35:57 PM PDT by capt. norm (Bumper Sticker: Honk if you've never seen an Uzi shoot from a car window.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Nope. This stuff was going on even between Morristown and LaFollette, Tennessee over eight years ago. INS refused to come pick up a vanloads of illegals on numerous occaisons. Don't take my word for it. Call Sheriff McClellan in Campbell County.

The Feds are good at very few things these days, and it seems to be specializing in spending your grandchildren's tax revenues on; rifling through your luggage and feeling up your wife at the airport, harassing obviously USA citizen's and boats in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico, discouraging people from working while subsidizing those who refuse, overflying your private home three or so times a year looking for reefer patches, digging around under the hood of your car while more crap in the air floats in from China and India....

The illegal immigration problem could be solved very easily through even the Post Office. We have all seen the Wanted posters there. If the Feds put a bounty of $500 for every live illegal alien brought to the local jail and $300 for every dead one...........but I digress.

NOTE! There was ZERO racial discrimination in that proposal. It protects the honest, hardworking Central American, as well as the ugly white girls who married Islamist twerps. Better yet, the ugly girls can bust a cap in their tormentors who probably fooled them, and get paid.

Pull the thread or give me the ZOT, the facts still show that politicians are fishing for votes and don't give a flying F about the future of this country, unless it gived Sheriff Billy Bob an excuse for something that could pop up on COPS.


18 posted on 08/04/2006 10:36:11 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: capt. norm

It's exactly because of such cop-out cop behaviour that Rep. Charles Norwood proposed the CLEAR Act:

CLEAR - the Clear Law Enforcement for Criminal Alien Removal Act - removes all legal doubt that local law enforcement agencies are approved to enforce federal immigration law during the course of routine duties.

CLEAR also provides full federal funding for immigration law enforcement training, increases existing federal funding for local enforcement costs in dealing with criminal illegal immigrants (SCAAP), mandates that information on criminal aliens be placed in the National Criminal Information Center database (NCIC), and requires all states to comply with the Institutional Removal Program to automatically deport illegal aliens convicted of crimes following their jail terms.

The CLEAR Act was considered by friend and foe to be one of the most powerful potential reforms in fighting illegal immigration. Currently, illegal aliens who make it past the border are largely able to disappear in immigrant communities, as only 2,000 federal officers are able to track down 460,000 criminal aliens each year, rendering effective enforcement virtually impossible. The CLEAR Act amendments allow an additional 700,000 state and local officers to join the fight.



Unfortunately this bill has been languishing in committee for over two years now because IT WOULD GET THE JOB DONE.


19 posted on 08/04/2006 10:54:55 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (No more lesser evils!)
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To: oldbill

[quote]Actually, he did say that.

The first he said a couple of weeks ago after the National Guard was put on the border washing ICE trucks.

Yesterday he commented that he sees the House coming over to the President's version on immigration reform (amnesty).[/quote]

If this is the thoughts of the White House, it's a damm shame...


20 posted on 08/05/2006 12:37:26 AM PDT by jamie_justice62
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