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Are These the End Times? (Newsweek Interviews Tim LaHaye)
Newsweek ^ | August 2, 2006 | Brian Braker

Posted on 08/02/2006 5:37:46 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

When Tim LaHaye talks, the faithful listen—by the millions. The conservative Protestant minister is the coauthor of the wildly popular apocalyptic “Left Behind” novels. The controversial books, which have sold more than 60 million copies, depict the biblical end of the world: the Christian eschatology of the upheaval that precedes the second coming of Jesus Christ, known also as “end times.” LaHaye recently spoke with NEWSWEEK’s Brian Braiker about why he believes the events currently unfolding in the Middle East reflect biblical prophesy.

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KEYWORDS: 460; christians; days; end; endtimes; israel; last; lastdays; leftbehind; middleeast; newsweek; prophecy; times; timlahaye
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To: statered

False prophets aren't a new concept. Tim LaHaye is a false prophet, and it would be advised to avoid his ilk like the plague.


161 posted on 08/02/2006 11:20:23 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Skooz
Neither does the word "Trinity."

So you agree that Sola Scriptura is a false teaching.

162 posted on 08/02/2006 11:21:00 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: wideawake

"It's hardly a matter of legalism to call for a reality check"

You've attempted to change the arguement. Again, here you are stating that a reality check is your reality...namely that only YOU are able to define what a "serious Christian" is, or is not.

Awfully haughty of you. I certainly hope you're not in the ministry and stumbling the little ones. (ref. Strongs #3458)

...converstaion complete...
*claps dust off of sandals*


163 posted on 08/02/2006 11:21:28 AM PDT by woollyone (Preacher; "If there was more love in the world, there'd probably be a lot less dyin'")
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To: Aquinasfan

"...since Scripture tells us that everything He created is good."

Yeah, Genesis also tells us that prior to creating everything He was not sure it would turn out good.

"And God said, let there be light: and there was light."

"And God saw the light, that it was good."

Ie, He wasn't sure that it would be good?

The OT is just mythology, imo.


164 posted on 08/02/2006 11:22:23 AM PDT by Marcaurelio
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To: CindyDawg

Nooooo. The pope is only "raptured" because he recanted his Catholic faith.


165 posted on 08/02/2006 11:22:25 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

Nope.

I am just pointing out that the abscence of a word in Scripture is no basis for rejecting a theological belief.

The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible. But, I believe in it.

The same with "rapture."


166 posted on 08/02/2006 11:23:01 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: woollyone
Awfully haughty of you.

LOL! That might have been a credible comment if it were not followed by:

*claps dust off of sandals*

I'm haughty, apparently, but you're a humble self-appointed Apostle!

167 posted on 08/02/2006 11:23:36 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Rutles4Ever
So a perfect game in heaven is only "7's"?
168 posted on 08/02/2006 11:23:56 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: kimmie7
We'll just drop it in the ole cart and try it out!

It's a great conversion story, among other things. Enjoy!

169 posted on 08/02/2006 11:24:35 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Marcaurelio
The OT is just mythology, imo.

Really?

King David didn't exist?

There never was a Babylonian empire?

Bold claims.

170 posted on 08/02/2006 11:26:34 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Quix
Well there was a guy who stood on a hill around 1870 or so named Smith who said almost the same thing you just wrote. What if God delays every time somebody gets the day, hour and minute right in a prediction. Just so (s)he can be right?
171 posted on 08/02/2006 11:27:16 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I'll have to re-read when I get time. I don't remember seeing it but maybe. I just saw emphasis over and over about accept Christ. I don't recall specific religions. What I didn't like about the book was the names of some of the characters:')
172 posted on 08/02/2006 11:28:16 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Skooz

Thus, you do not agree with Sola Scriptura. The theological belief of the Trinity was developed with the aid of Tradition in the Catholic Church. It's not defined in Scripture, though present. To define it involved the weighing of traditional acceptance that such a thing (the triune God) was a reality, in spite of no explicit Biblical evidence of triunity (three persons, yes, but not triunity). Same goes for the divine/human nature of Christ. Not explicit, but defined later, with the aid of Church Tradition.


173 posted on 08/02/2006 11:29:55 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: mad_as_he$$
So a perfect game in heaven is only "7's"?

I don't know, but I know the perfect time to grab a beer is at the 7th inning stretch...

174 posted on 08/02/2006 11:31:54 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: woollyone; wideawake
Kudos on a well-reasoned response. Isn't this belligerant attitude of these hyper-Calvinists(?) a rather recent development. It is very carnal and very ugly and very non-representative of some thoughtful Reformers of the past..

In an earlier post wideawake defamed Schofield and deliberately misconstrued some comments I had made in a most alicious manner. But I find this typical from many Calvinists(/) who post on FreeRepublic.

I won't answer wideawake directly because I feel it would be an error of the type described in Matthew 7:6

175 posted on 08/02/2006 11:32:11 AM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Rutles4Ever

That is irrelevent to my point.

You reject the concept of the rapture because the word is not in the Bible.

I pointed out that the word trinity is not in the Bible, either.

Neither words are in the Bible, but I believe in them both.

And the Trinity is screamingly obvious in the term "Father, Son and Holy Ghost." The Trinity is in the Bible, but the word isn't.


176 posted on 08/02/2006 11:33:49 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: kimmie7
Sorry, I can't resist... Some profound insights from Mr. Schoeman regarding the Jews and the Holocaust:
In the chapter entitled “Judaism and the Holocaust,” Mr. Schoeman asks other probing questions: if the Israelites are God’s chosen people and God is all loving, how does one explain the Holocaust? While some Jews like Elie Wiesel renounce their orthodox Jewish faith (“I believe during the Holocaust the covenant was broken”), Mr. Schoeman argues, “Judaism was founded on Abraham’s fidelity to God . . . in the face of what appeared to be the most unjust and cruel act of God imaginable—his requirement that he sacrifice his son Isaac.” God demands noble, heroic suffering of his faithful servants from Abraham to the death of the Son of God to the martyrs and saints. While Elie Wiesel depicts God as unfaithful, Jewish converts like Edith Stein—a victim of the concentration camps—see the suffering of the Jews in World War II as Christ’s Cross “being laid upon the Jewish people.” Just as Christ’s first coming resulted in the slaughtering of the Innocents, “There is a symmetry in the idea that the final return of the Messiah, the Second Coming, would be preceded once again by a slaughter of the innocents, centered on the Jews.” A human birth is preceded by suffering. The grace of conversion is also often foreshadowed by suffering. Grace itself is purchased by suffering. Thus Mr. Schoeman reasons, “Suffering is the coin that brings heaven to earth”—a fact that hints that the Holocaust is possibly “a harbinger of the Second Coming,” an event not far off according to the revelations of Sister Faustina in 1936–1938. This is another of the remarkable epiphanies the book offers.

In his chapter “The Ideological Foundations of Nazism,” the author relates the war crimes of Hitler and the Third Reich not only to Margaret Sanger’s eugenics policies but also to diabolical influences, pagan religions, and new age cults. The sexual degeneracy of Hitler, the storm troopers, and the Hitler youth—their casual acceptance of homosexuality, sadism, and other perversions—Himmler’s preoccupation with black magic and occult mediums, the Nazi neo pagan religion that glorified the orgies of Walpurgis Night, and Hitler’s involvement in Satanism and his suicide on April 30, the very day of the Walpurgis Night bacchanal all provoke another searching question: why was Satan through Hitler and the ideology of Nazism perpetrating this atrocity on the Jews? Because the first coming of the Messiah came from the Jews and because the Jews will play a major role in the Second Coming as St. Paul explains in Romans 11, then “the eradication of the Jews might have been an attempt to prevent the Second Coming.” A second diabolical strategy to thwart the Second Coming, which depends on Israel’s conversion (“and so all Israel will be saved” as St. Paul writes in Romans 11), might be the prevention of Israel’s conversion by destroying the Jewish people through the atrocities of Nazism or by forcing Jews in the aftermath of World War II to doubt the goodness and love of God.

Salvation is from the Jews


177 posted on 08/02/2006 11:35:45 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Zechariah11
I won't answer wideawake directly because I feel it would be an error of the type described in Matthew 7:6

LOL! It's OK for you to obliquely call me a dog and a swine though, right?

At this point you are engaging in conscious self-parody, correct?

You just have to be.

178 posted on 08/02/2006 11:36:02 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
It was a credible comment, as you know.

But I never claimed any position of authority, unlike you, who is self-appointed as the moral authority on who is and who is not a serious Christian.

Just done wasting my time with a Pharisee.

Glad to see it pricked your conscience though.

remember...3458!

179 posted on 08/02/2006 11:37:25 AM PDT by woollyone (Preacher; "If there was more love in the world, there'd probably be a lot less dyin'")
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To: Rutles4Ever
BTW, according to one insistent poster on this thread, my disagreement with Tim LaHaye's snakeoil qualifies me as a "hyper-Calvinist."

Should I be flattered?

180 posted on 08/02/2006 11:38:12 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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