Kansas Primary Watch Thread

Kansas Secretary of State ^ | 8/1/2007 | Me

[seutonius1234]

http://www.kssos.org/ent/kssos_ent.html

For those of us who support evolution, the incumbents who voted for the intelligent design standards are:

John Bacon (seat 003) Connie Morris (seat 005) Ken Willard (seat 007)

Seat 009 is an open seat (the creationist incumbent retired)

The democratic incumbent in seat 001 (Janet Waugh) voted against the intelligent design standards. She is being challenged by a creationist democrat.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Ahner had Bob Dole making phone calls for him. That was a big a fish.

[MplsSteve]

Thank you for the update.

Like a previous poster said, no one was really watching this primary - in comparison to the last three elections.

Was this primary your classic moderate vs conservative battle? Or were there no real policy differences?

I looked at the web sites of Scherer, Ahner and Schwab and it seemed as though Ahner was supported by the moderate wing of the GOP and Schwab was backed by the conservatives.

[peggybac]

"I like kids and everything, but that's obnoxious."

hahahahahahahaha

[AuH2ORepublican]

"A big factor in Snowbarger's defeat was the Clinton impeachment. There was a huge anti-conservative backlash among upscale white urban liberals in 1998.

All five Republican Congressmen defeated for reelection that year (Snowbarger, Rick White, Bill Redmond, Jon Fox, & Mike Pappas) represented districts with a significant number of such voters."

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Interesting theory, but Clinton wasn't impeached until after the election. The only House GOP casualties of impeachment came in 2000, when Jay Dickey was defeated in a Democrat-leaning southern Arkansas district (it actually voted for Gore over Bush while Bush was carrying the state) and when House Impeachment Manager Jim Rogan was defeated in a California district that had gone from solidly GOP to solidly Democrat within a decade.

Snowbarger was defeated mostly due to RINOs sitting on their hands or else voting for Moore, Redmond lost because his victory had been a fluke (he would have never won in the first place without a Green Party candidate taking over 10%), and White, Fox and Pappas each represented suburban districts that had become comfortably Democrat. While the potential impeachment was an issue used by Democrats in 1998, I don't think it was a major reason in any of those losses (although Pappas didn't help his chances any by reading a poem on the floor of the House praising Kenneth Starr).

[fieldmarshaldj]

I don't know who is who in this one. If Ahner is the liberal RINO-backed candidate, Moore will polish him off handily. Regardless, this race isn't being taken seriously this year, anyhow.

[AntiGuv]

Although the divisions aren't as sharp as in past years, Ahner does indeed seem to be the liberal RINO-backed candidate from what I've been able to figure out.

[AntiGuv]

It looks to me as if we can pretty much call it for Barnett:

CANDIDATE

VOTES

%

R-Jim Barnett

55410

36 %

R-Ken R. Canfield

41114

27 %

R-Rex Crowell

7099

5 %

R-Dennis Hawver

5627

4 %

R-Robin Jennison

33427

22 %

R-Timothy V. Pickell

9219

6 %

R-Richard "Rode" Rodewald

3354

2 %

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I believe Kansans for Life endorsed either Ahner or Schwab, so I wouldn't think Ahner is the liberal-RINO darling. Abortion is their sacrament.

[rwfromkansas]

I am not in the third district.

[rwfromkansas]

One of the conservatives won at least. I have not looked to see who the others are.

[rwfromkansas]

Let's hope so since he won.

I wasn't sure who was better. At times both appeared to have some conservative traits lacking, and at times both appeared perfect conservatives (talking about Canfield v. Barnett).

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Canfield and Barnett were both fine choices. For me, Wagle made the difference. She's got guts.

[rwfromkansas]

two of the creationists won.

Morris lost.

I don't know about the open seat...which side was which there.

So, did the creationists win or lose this one? Anybody know?

[rwfromkansas]

looks like the creationists did lose here....two won but they lost more.

Waugh is evolutionist and won
Jana Shaver is a moderate and won

[retMD]

I thought I read that it was 6 to 4 for weakening the science standards. That means that if even one of the existing creatioinism voters loses, it should be a tie - that should really snarl things up.

I read on ABC's website that the existing proscience vote, Waugh, a dem, held onto her seat. They also said two of three of the creationists were leading, and the open seat (previously creationist) was still a toss up.

Anyone have anything later?

[retMD]

Ok, so far:

Bacon won, Waugh won, and that's all I can find with names.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Here you go. It's down at the bottom just before the judges.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

BTW, you would be pulling for Shaver. I'm for Patzer.

[seutonius1234]

Bacon (creationist) will win
Willard (creationist) will win

Waugh (moderate) will win

No changes with any of those 3

With 75% reporting, moderate Cauble is winning over creationist incumbent Morris by 8% (1,500 votes out of 17,000 cast)

With 90% reporting, moderate Shaver is beating creationist Patzer by 16% to replace a retiring creationist

Looks like the 6-4 creationist majority might become a 6-4 moderate majority, even before the actual general election

[retMD]

Thanks for the link.

If I'm understanding this correctly, Waugh's and Bacon's victories don't change anything. Cauble is leading Morris with 54% to 46% with 466 of 609 precincts counted. Willard appears to have an insurmontable lead with 401 of 463 precincts counted. Shaver has 58% to 42% for Patzer with 389 of 428 precincts counted.

If it's safe (and I have no idea) to call a win for Cauble and Shaver, that's two seats changing hands, which should put the majority at 6 to 4 the other way from what it was.