Kansas Primary Watch Thread

Kansas Secretary of State ^ | 8/1/2007 | Me

[seutonius1234]

http://www.kssos.org/ent/kssos_ent.html

For those of us who support evolution, the incumbents who voted for the intelligent design standards are:

John Bacon (seat 003) Connie Morris (seat 005) Ken Willard (seat 007)

Seat 009 is an open seat (the creationist incumbent retired)

The democratic incumbent in seat 001 (Janet Waugh) voted against the intelligent design standards. She is being challenged by a creationist democrat.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

You signed up just for this? What a zealot you are towards other people's children.

[Clintonfatigued]

The big race is the Governor's race. If Kathleen Selebius wins reelection by a landslide, she will be a candidate to succeed retiring Sam Brownback in the Senate when he retires in 2010.

[Coyoteman]

You signed up just for this? What a zealot you are towards other people's children.

You don't have to read the information. Or you can just deny it.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

You don't have to read the information. Or you can just deny it.

I am a tad beyond K12. But anyway, that works both ways, or didn't you think of that?

[Clintonfatigued]

Some are watching this for the state Board of Education (creationist vs. evolutionist primaries), but I'm more interested in the GOP Governor's primary.

The three leading GOP candidates are state Senator Jim Barnett, former state House Speaker Robin Jennison, and fatherhood advocate Ken Canfield.

[AntiGuv]

The very early reports look quite promising. John Bacon, Connie Morris, and Ken Willard voted for the current science education curriculum that was rated worse than a failure by the National Academies of Science. Brad Patzer is the son in law of current member Iris Van Meter who also voted for the ID curriculum. Jesse L. Hall is a Democrat nutjob who supports the ID curriculum.

So, Hall, Bacon, Morris, Willard, and Paltzer is the quintet that rational people want out.

CANDIDATE

VOTES

%

D-Jesse L. Hall

0

0 %

D-Janet Waugh

0

0 %

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CANDIDATE

VOTES

%

R-John W. Bacon

15

27 %

R-Harry E. McDonald III

31

56 %

R-David A Oliphant

9

16 %

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CANDIDATE

VOTES

%

R-Sally Cauble

180

47 %

R-Connie Morris

204

53 %

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CANDIDATE

VOTES

%

R-M.T. Liggett

65

12 %

R-Donna Viola

297

55 %

R-Ken R. Willard

182

34 %

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CANDIDATE

VOTES

%

R-Brad Patzer

112

36 %

R-Jana Shaver

202

64 %

[Non-Sequitur]

If Kathleen Selebius wins reelection by a landslide, she will be a candidate to succeed retiring Sam Brownback in the Senate when he retires in 2010.

Unless she's on the Democratic ticket in 2008. If she wins big, and Clinton isn't the candidate, look for Sebelius to be one of the VP frontrunners.

And look for Moore to challenge Roberts in 08.

[AntiGuv]

CANDIDATE

VOTES

%

R-Jim Barnett

1318

36 %

R-Ken R. Canfield

776

21 %

R-Rex Crowell

131

4 %

R-Dennis Hawver

271

7 %

R-Robin Jennison

927

26 %

R-Timothy V. Pickell

153

4 %

R-Richard "Rode" Rodewald

62

2 %

[Clintonfatigued]

I'm not particularly worried about Pat Roberts. In 1996, he faced a credible opponent (without the benefits of incumbency) and won easily.

I don't see how Dennis Moore would have a much better chance. But since his House seat would be open, his candidacy should be encouraged.

[seutonius1234]

Is Patzer a creationist? I didn't think that seat had an incumbent.

[LdSentinal]

And look for Moore to challenge Roberts in 08.

Great. Moore loses in a presidential year and we get KS-3 back.

[rwfromkansas]

Today is just the primary; the challenger of Sebelius will be decided tonight.

[seutonius1234]

What I don't get is how a democrat won this governors seat (in 2002 of all years) in this state, and might actually have a chance of being reelected. WTF???

My guess is that Selebius is not as rock solid as people think. In San Fransico maybe, but not in this state. Look for a close race come November.

[Non-Sequitur]

I don't see how Dennis Moore would have a much better chance. But since his House seat would be open, his candidacy should be encouraged.

Assuming Roberts runs again. He'll be 72.

[rwfromkansas]

It looks like it may come out as I predicted. The moderates will win this time and then in two years, the conservatives will win again....guess what, the science standards will get changed again.

And the cycle will repeat.

This is round two of the cycle already.

[Clintonfatigued]

Very true. IMHO, Jim Barnett has the right combinaion of experience, conservativism, and political viability.

[Clintonfatigued]

I don't see that being a factor. Orrin Hatch and Richard Lugar are both older than 72 and are seeking reelection this year.

[LdSentinal]

Selebius is the one back in 2002 who said the highways were more dangerous than 9/11.

And she still got elected.

[AntiGuv]

Yes, Patzer is a creationist who said he endorses the current non-science education non-standards. This was his answer to a Kansas City Star questionnaire:

15. What do you think about the state board’s recent changes to the science standards?

Poll after poll show that parents support the improvements made in the science standards. Parents want accurate scientific evidence presented to their children and the revised science standards provide this. As part of it’s regular responsibility for updating course standards, the Board chose to allow all of the scientific evidence to be presented to students, not just that which supports evolutionary naturalism. The science standards are more rigorous and more complete. I support the improved science standards. [sic in toto]