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8/1 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/1/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 07/31/2006 9:38:15 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

The wife and father of kidnapped Israeli soldier Ehud Goldwasser, Karnit, holding a wedding photograph, and Shlomo Goldwasser arrive at Heathrow Airport in London, Monday July 31, 2006. Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli soldiers on July 12, triggering an Israeli offensive against Lebanon that has killed hundreds of people, mostly civilians.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; daralislam; dhimmis; dhimmitude; hezbollah; humanshieldsrus; iran; islam; israel; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; muslimcaliphate
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To: hegemony

"Apparently this date has Islamic importance."

Is there any date or time, or any place in the world that islam doesn't claim is "holy"?


402 posted on 08/01/2006 8:57:17 AM PDT by RouxStir (Refreshingly Offensive, with Hints of Cohiba and Auchentoshen.)
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To: All

Breaking on FOXNEWS:

Condi to be on O'Reilly this evening!!!

(this has me wondering exactly how badly she screwed up her assignment in the ME to be sentenced to a BOR appearance...)


403 posted on 08/01/2006 8:58:35 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (The most dangerous phrase in the English language: "There oughtta be a law")
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To: CougarGA7

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1669133/posts
The U.S. intelligence community has not been surprised by Iran's refusal to respond to a Western incentive package to suspend its uranium enrichment. Intelligence sources said Iran, following North Korea's model, intends to delay any response or negotiations for as long as possible.

The European Union and the United States demanded that Iran reply to the Western incentive package of nuclear technology, fuel and aircraft by June 29. But Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Teheran would submit an answer by Aug. 22.

The U.S. intelligence community has been trying to figure out why Ahmadinejad chose that date. Sources said the community was stumped until some Islam experts translated the Gregorian date to that of the Muslim calendar.

Then came the surprise that has the intelligence community worried.

Aug. 22 corresponds to Rajab 27 on the Muslim calendar. The date is called Lailat Al Israa, when Mohammed ascended to heaven from the Al Aqsa mosque to receive the five daily prayers. Later, Al Aqsa came to represent Jerusalem.

The Muslim commemoration is meant to be a night of struggle, accompanied by thunder and lightening, resembling the story of Moses ascending Mount Sinai to receive the Old Testament.

Ahmadinejad could be hinting to the West that he is preparing a major attack on Israel. Or, the Iranian president could be warning that unless the West caves in, he would escalate tension in the region. The lightening in Mohammed's story could represent Iranian missiles.

What is clear is that Ahmadinejad does not see himself as an Iranian leader, but a Muslim prophet, using imagery to portray himself as a messiah for both Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims.

Also
Iran’s President and the Politics of the Twelfth Imam
Guest Commentary
November 2005

by: John von Heyking

http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/guest/05/vonheyking/twelfthimam.html


404 posted on 08/01/2006 8:58:40 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: All

18:50 PM Olmert due to give speech at IDF base near Tel Aviv (Haaretz)


405 posted on 08/01/2006 9:00:04 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Vicious firefight on Lebanon border
The Israeli military was in a vicious firefight with Hezbollah forces in the town of Aita Al-Shaab in southern Lebanon. Israel was hitting the town with heavy shelling and 500-pound bombs, CNN's John Roberts reported from the area. The sound of gunfire exchange could be heard, he said.


406 posted on 08/01/2006 9:00:36 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: COUNTrecount

I see Israelis are warning civilians to leave Leb Villages near the Litani River; I hope this time their PR people are ready to remind the world about this if/when civilians are killed.

One way around the media filter is to send out articles about how the jihadists Hezbollywoodize their civilian deaths.


407 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:10 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: RouxStir

No kidding! LOL Seems like every grain of sand to them has some significance. But with this particular nutcase and his endless claims of wanting to bring on the 12th Imman, some analysts have claimed this is why he chose that date. Here's a link for anyone who wants to read about this topic:

The Missles of 27 Rajab
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23578


408 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:12 AM PDT by hegemony
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To: olde north church
How many people will deny we are on the hot outbreak of WW IV?

Tensions are high around here because that very thought is in the back of everyone's minds...

I'm scheduled to come home in early September, but keep wondering if I should move that date up...

409 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:13 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from "the other war zone.")
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Will that speech be televised?


410 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:34 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Lizarde

I caught the end of Hemmer talking with a female on Hezb. in the U.S. and Canada. I was encouraged to hear her say that the FBI issued a directive last week to all police departments to keep an eye on all Hezb. sypathizers. Unfortunately, that would be half of the US population.


411 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:36 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: RouxStir

And all that effort expended to wipe out the Boy Scouts.

Actually, it's beginning to make sense now. The Boy Scouts had to be stopped so that these groups could send out their monsters to be effective....

BTW, I'm the mother of 2 Eagle Scouts.

Pinz


412 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:46 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: dogcaller

I get a chuckle every time the hezbos DEMAND an UNCONDITIONAL cease-fire. It's like, You've blown us halfway to kingdom come, we DEMAND your surrender. Blow us the rest of the way there and we'll REALLY demand it.


413 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:47 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I have to take a shower.)
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To: hegemony
I think you are absolutely correct. And to me it looks like they are getting the response (world opinion wise) that they want.

I've been thinking of the tactics in play as a whole and here is what I'm seeing.

Hezbollah is hiding behind civilians to commit their strikes forcing Israel to target civilian locations.

If the civilian body count is not adequate there is every appearance that they are manufacturing more civilian bodies.

They are targeting Israeli civilians only.

Now they look at the results. Israel is getting bashed for collateral damage while there is no outcry against Hezbollah hiding behind civilians AND targeting civilians.

This is the PR turn I feel Iran was hoping for and is getting. And the worse part of that is Israel pulling back and not trying to take these guys out is not an option.

The only way to right this ship is to get the information on what these scumbags are doing out there and hope that eventually some media outlet finally decides to pick up the ball and run with it. Unlikely in my opinion, but we should still keep shouting out the truth and reality of what Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran are.
414 posted on 08/01/2006 9:01:58 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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bOOKMARK


415 posted on 08/01/2006 9:02:02 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Uncle Ike
(this has me wondering exactly how badly she screwed up her assignment in the ME to be sentenced to a BOR appearance...)

We will now see how good Condi is at keeping a straight face.

416 posted on 08/01/2006 9:02:46 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Peach

Don't know but I'll monitor CNN pipeline and cspan.


417 posted on 08/01/2006 9:02:58 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Uncle Ike
Condi to be on O'Reilly this evening!!!
(this has me wondering exactly how badly she screwed up her assignment in the ME to be sentenced to a BOR appearance...)

LOL Looks like the White House is using US media more effectively. Go Tony!

Pinz

418 posted on 08/01/2006 9:03:18 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Uncle Ike

wow, they broke that news at 838am also! More fake breaking news from the media!


419 posted on 08/01/2006 9:03:49 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: hegemony
[Iran wanted to] take a peek at world opinion and align a coalition, and get a handle on IDF abilities.

That much I can buy.

But if so it has not gone as planned. Someone pointed out in a posting today that Iran has been calling for a ceasefire for 20 days in a row. I can't verify that but they certainly are calling for one right now and they seem very, very unhappy with the "do nothing" U.N.

420 posted on 08/01/2006 9:04:02 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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