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Scientist thinks invisibility possible in future
Reuters ^ | July 31, 2006 | Patricia Reaney

Posted on 07/31/2006 11:25:04 AM PDT by AntiGuv

LONDON (Reuters) - It's unlikely to occur by swallowing a pill or donning a special cloak, but invisibility could be possible in the not too distant future, according to research published on Monday.

Harry Potter accomplished it with his magic cloak. H.G. Wells' Invisible Man swallowed a substance that made him transparent.

But Dr Ulf Leonhardt, a theoretical physicist at St Andrews University in Scotland, believes the most plausible example is the Invisible Woman, one of the Marvel Comics superheroes in the "Fantastic Four."

"She guides light around her using a force field in this cartoon. This is what could be done in practice," Leonhardt told Reuters in an interview. "That comes closest to what engineers will probably be able to do in the future."

Invisibility is an optical illusion that the object or person is not there. Leonhardt uses the example of water circling around a stone. The water flows in, swirls around the stone and then leaves as if nothing was there.

"If you replace the water with light then you would not see that there was something present because the light is guided around the person or object. You would see the light coming from the scenery behind as if there was nothing in front," he said.

In the research published in the New Journal of Physics, Leonhardt described the physics of theoretical devices that could create invisibility. It is a follow-up paper to an earlier study published in the journal Science.

"What the Invisible Woman does is curve space around herself to bend light. What these devices would do is to mimic that curved space," he said.

Although the devices are still theoretical, Leonhardt said scientists are making advances in metamaterials -- artificial materials with unusual properties that could be used to make invisibility devices.

"There are advances being made in metamaterials that mean the first devices will probably be used for bending radar waves or the electromagnetic waves used by mobile phones," he said.

The devices could be used as protection mechanisms so the radiation emitted from mobile phones does not penetrate electronic equipment. It is guided around it.

"It is very likely that the demonstration for radar would come first and very soon. To go into the visual will take some time but it is also not so far off," Leonhardt said.


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To: King Prout
"supposition: "antenna" = "the copper mesh and carbon-fiber materials both planes use to absorb some RF is yet a third solution." "

A valid idea, but you're missing this bit of information from the conversation: the commander was explaining the reason the F-117s would need to remain at the end of the runway for about 10-15 minutes after landing at an airshow in order "to retract their antennas so they're unstealthy before we bring them up close."
61 posted on 08/01/2006 9:19:36 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: wyattearp
Greetings fellow Veteran,

I'm not saying I understand the concept, but if my physics class serves me rightly, Can't light waves be neutralized like other waves by an equal frequency wave traveling in the opposite direction? As I understand it, the major difficulty would be the constant adjustments required for angle, frequency, etc. Also, what if these antennae only produce a thin field around the aircraft? Not possible according to your knowledge? OK, I agree, it seems futuristic, but I remind you that the F-117s were combat operational in 1980; many years before the world knew we even were working on them!
I think it very interesting that "scientists" are starting to talk to the public about the possibility of invisibility, sort of like they did about radar-stealth in 1979!
BTW, what do you think all those UFO geeks are taking pictures of up at Groom Lake? Aliens?!!

Aurora is big, very fast (3000+mph), and...seems to "disappear" in a blink.

62 posted on 08/01/2006 9:57:28 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA NECCES EST!)
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To: AntiGuv
Scientist thinks invisibility possible in future

It's a reality.
The proof?
The National Archives docs that Sandy Burglar stole.

63 posted on 08/01/2006 10:00:15 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: AntiGuv

bump ... of course it's possible.


64 posted on 08/01/2006 10:14:39 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Human being are predators, mercy is a countersurvival strategy.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
I'm not saying I understand the concept, but if my physics class serves me rightly, Can't light waves be neutralized like other waves by an equal frequency wave traveling in the opposite direction?

Yes. Light is just like radar, but at a higher frequency that makes it visible. But when you jam a signal like that, you are radiating, and you can be picked up for 360 degrees. You shine like a beacon in the night. You only do it if you know that you can jam everybody who may be taking a look. Otherwise, you take an ARM right smack in the antennae.

As I understand it, the major difficulty would be the constant adjustments required for angle, frequency, etc.

Actually, that's the easy part. The computers do that. :-)

Also, what if these antennae only produce a thin field around the aircraft? Not possible according to your knowledge?

Transmit visible light, and tell it to stop after 30 feet and just sit there? No. Not possible. Send out photons and tell them to circle around the plane? No. Not possible.

65 posted on 08/01/2006 10:57:14 AM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: AntiGuv

A car around which radar waves would flow like water around a stone.


66 posted on 08/01/2006 11:04:02 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Lee Heggy123

That would be similar to a mirage effect if the light has turbulence due to atmospheric interference. I would not mind having a "predator" type shield.


67 posted on 08/01/2006 11:56:29 AM PDT by Redcitizen (When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

additional supposition - those antannae, specifically, might have been specialized communication arrays, which would be classified on a stealth platform.


68 posted on 08/01/2006 12:14:55 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: King Prout
Good point,

Although now that I think about it, all their combat missions are comm-out.
69 posted on 08/01/2006 2:06:14 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA NECCES EST!)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

they go RS past a specific phase line, but presumably maintain RC when away from the combat area.


70 posted on 08/01/2006 2:07:34 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: Irishguy

Oddly enough, Paddy potentiates the effect! I can achieve invisibility in half the time with two ounces of Paddy aside me pint. Must be some mystical trick of the leprechauns!

Francis, himself


71 posted on 08/01/2006 4:32:22 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: AntiGuv

So what are the legal ramifications of "accidentally" feeling up an invisible woman?


72 posted on 08/01/2006 4:38:28 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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