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Scientist thinks invisibility possible in future
Reuters ^ | July 31, 2006 | Patricia Reaney

Posted on 07/31/2006 11:25:04 AM PDT by AntiGuv

LONDON (Reuters) - It's unlikely to occur by swallowing a pill or donning a special cloak, but invisibility could be possible in the not too distant future, according to research published on Monday.

Harry Potter accomplished it with his magic cloak. H.G. Wells' Invisible Man swallowed a substance that made him transparent.

But Dr Ulf Leonhardt, a theoretical physicist at St Andrews University in Scotland, believes the most plausible example is the Invisible Woman, one of the Marvel Comics superheroes in the "Fantastic Four."

"She guides light around her using a force field in this cartoon. This is what could be done in practice," Leonhardt told Reuters in an interview. "That comes closest to what engineers will probably be able to do in the future."

Invisibility is an optical illusion that the object or person is not there. Leonhardt uses the example of water circling around a stone. The water flows in, swirls around the stone and then leaves as if nothing was there.

"If you replace the water with light then you would not see that there was something present because the light is guided around the person or object. You would see the light coming from the scenery behind as if there was nothing in front," he said.

In the research published in the New Journal of Physics, Leonhardt described the physics of theoretical devices that could create invisibility. It is a follow-up paper to an earlier study published in the journal Science.

"What the Invisible Woman does is curve space around herself to bend light. What these devices would do is to mimic that curved space," he said.

Although the devices are still theoretical, Leonhardt said scientists are making advances in metamaterials -- artificial materials with unusual properties that could be used to make invisibility devices.

"There are advances being made in metamaterials that mean the first devices will probably be used for bending radar waves or the electromagnetic waves used by mobile phones," he said.

The devices could be used as protection mechanisms so the radiation emitted from mobile phones does not penetrate electronic equipment. It is guided around it.

"It is very likely that the demonstration for radar would come first and very soon. To go into the visual will take some time but it is also not so far off," Leonhardt said.


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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

the faceted diamond is one solution, essentially analogous to planar mirror surfaces which never present a useful angle of reflection.
the aplanar curve is another solution, analogous to a mirror surface which spreads the angle of reflection to a maximally diffuse (ie: weak) range, producing a very small and vague signal return.
the copper mesh and carbon-fiber materials both planes use to absorb some RF is yet a third solution.
the grids covering the intakes on the F117 is a fourth solution - the grid size allows RF to enter, but not to reflect.
don't assume so much.


41 posted on 07/31/2006 3:42:43 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: Pride in the USA; Art Bell
Art Bell will love this one.

You're right. Let's ping him!


42 posted on 07/31/2006 4:17:59 PM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: wyattearp; ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
A less sensationalistic article at Electrical Engineering Times

Better graphics at MSNBC article

Essentially, you can have a material that bends light around what you want to conceal

43 posted on 07/31/2006 5:07:57 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: King Prout
"I'll believe it when I don't see it :)"

LOL.

44 posted on 07/31/2006 5:10:24 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: King Prout
Another MSNBC article. See also the two articles I referenced above
45 posted on 07/31/2006 5:11:14 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: wyattearp

The word "antenna" may be inaccurate, but there's something else stealth technology than shape. You're parroting the "official story" without analysis.


46 posted on 07/31/2006 5:17:12 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: King Prout

see post 46


47 posted on 07/31/2006 5:20:35 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: FourtySeven
Steady. They have to drop their cloak before they fire.
48 posted on 07/31/2006 5:28:13 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Merry Christmas!)
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To: AntiGuv

49 posted on 07/31/2006 5:35:28 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

supposition: "antenna" = "the copper mesh and carbon-fiber materials both planes use to absorb some RF is yet a third solution."

remember that a receiving antenna converts RF into electricity and heat. iirc, that is what the copper mesh in the stealth material does. this would effectively make a hole in the signal strength, and a void in the return signal.


50 posted on 07/31/2006 5:36:42 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

*grins*

Ah figger'd et flow'd better'n "Ah'm f'um Missouri... DON'T show me!"


51 posted on 07/31/2006 5:38:33 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: AntiGuv
I just want to be invisible to women, cops and creditors.

I should be eligible for a discount.

52 posted on 07/31/2006 5:41:25 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: SauronOfMordor

thanks for all.
iirc, some hints of this were published a month or so back.
againiirc, the weight and power requirements of the devices seem likely to limit application to heavy vehicles and stationary installations.


53 posted on 07/31/2006 5:48:27 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: AntiGuv

Which reminds me, didja know that you can get "Soap" on CD through Netflix?? They have all of the seasons...


54 posted on 07/31/2006 7:45:03 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout hearts!!)
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To: King Prout
"Ah figger'd et flow'd better'n "Ah'm f'um Missouri... DON'T show me!"

Lol... again.

55 posted on 07/31/2006 7:58:45 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
You're parroting the "official story" without analysis.
56 posted on 08/01/2006 1:01:17 AM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Ok. It wont let me post this, so I'll have to post it in two pieces. Hope that's ok. If I try to quote, it only allows the quote, and not the reply.

I was a Naval Electronic Warfare Technician. I was going by what you said. Antennae can either radiate or receive. If they are radiating, then they can be detected. If they are merely receiving, then they can take no action on the signal that they are receiving. That's all that I was saying.


57 posted on 08/01/2006 1:05:48 AM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: Frank Sheed

strangely enough used to happen to me when i drank...the new tool on the war on terror...LOL


58 posted on 08/01/2006 1:08:02 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: Bean Counter
Which reminds me, didja know that you can get "Soap" on CD through Netflix?? They have all of the seasons...

When we were in the shipyards and had the AN/WLR-1 tuners rebuilt, we went to sea with a lady tech to check the system out. All that she cared about was whether we could pick up "All My Children". She listened intently. Worked fine. Naturally, we checked the system out fully once she was off of the ship. Union labor, gotta love it.

59 posted on 08/01/2006 1:13:48 AM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
 

 

 

 

 

 

60 posted on 08/01/2006 5:16:39 AM PDT by QuiMundus (Learn, Act, Educate, Repeat - http://www.smithism.com)
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