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'Tactless' US 'Underling' Shocks Iceland With US Military Pullout
NewsBusters.org ^ | 7/22/06 | warner todd huston

Posted on 07/22/2006 1:11:16 PM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

The Telegraph newspaper apparently cannot believe that America is gauche enough to take it upon itself to evaluate its own distribution of military forces in the world. How DARE the USA think that, in this era of unrest in the Mid East and terrorism, it can do what it wants to do with its own military!

In an article by David Rennie titled American pullout leaves Iceland defenceless, America is reported as "tactless" for its need to reevaluate keeping forces in Iceland, forces that were originally posted there for fighting the Cold War.

Apparently, many in Iceland, not to mention the offices of the Telegraph, have not caught up to the news that the Cold War is over.

In a classic example of ingratitude for years of free service, Iceland is all aghast over the United States' decision that its armed forces are best stationed in other places in the world than the land of ice.

As a result, according to the Telegraph, the USA is being nasty to the good people of Iceland.

"The United States, which had assured Iceland's defence for decades, stunned the country in March when it announced that it would be closing its bases on the island, withdrawing its F-15 fighters and thousands of servicemen in the space of just six months.

This bombshell was dropped in a single telephone call from an underling at the State Department, followed by a letter from the US ambassador."

How DARE those evil Americans!

Apparently the Telegraph found at least one Icelander that agrees with them that America is just being a big poopyhead. Björn Bjarnason, the minister for justice and ecclesiastical affairs, who oversees the coastguard and police, is not very happy.

"The situation could one day require the 'tactless' Americans to be invited back, Mr Bjarnason thinks."
Well, THAT cinches it. We need to double the U.S. military presence. We don’t want to be thought of as jerks by ol' Björn, do we?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; coldwar; iceland; militarybases
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To: Mobile Vulgus

"The situation could one day require the 'tactless' Americans to be invited back, Mr Bjarnason thinks."

Uh, RSVP and we'll get back to you.


21 posted on 07/22/2006 1:32:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Iceland asked us to leave. They have demostrated repeatedly to get the US out of Iceland, AND the people treat the US soldiers and airmen terribly. Get over it Iceland you are getting what you want!


22 posted on 07/22/2006 1:33:04 PM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: Merry
re: Icelanders like Americans except the ones that don't understand their culture and leave tips in restaurants.)))

Indeed, the shame! (And I would probably be one of those gauche Americans who tip. What's the deal about tipping in Iceland?)

23 posted on 07/22/2006 1:35:35 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Rameumptom

LOL--let's send them some Viking Kitties.


24 posted on 07/22/2006 1:37:33 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Its also a bad idea to close the USAF base in Iceland. It is strategically located to respond to agression in the Atlantic and in the Northern reaches of the great circle routes to the West from Russia and China.

And then there are thos Icelandic ladies who will no longer be able to hook American servicemen! Have some pity on them!

The Icelandic US base has come in very, very handy over the years. It should be kept open.

25 posted on 07/22/2006 1:37:37 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Vision

I don't trust most of the human race, Europe and America included! :D


26 posted on 07/22/2006 1:37:58 PM PDT by Jack2006
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To: Merry
"Icelanders like Americans except the ones that don't understand their culture and leave tips in restaurants."

I was searching for more information and found this page of cultural tips. Many interesting things about other countries I didn't know...

DHL: Cultural Tips

27 posted on 07/22/2006 1:38:56 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Mamzelle

The question is : "who wants to invade Iceland ?"


28 posted on 07/22/2006 1:41:53 PM PDT by Republicain
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To: LongElegantLegs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFQTalaraG4&mode=related&search=


29 posted on 07/22/2006 1:43:46 PM PDT by badpacifist (Vote for DECIDERS not whiners in 2006)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
If this is news to anyone at the Telegraph, it shouldn't be. The negotiations have been going on since March. We discussed the matter HERE.
30 posted on 07/22/2006 1:47:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: monkapotamus
That is a fun site! Some of the remarks are rather droll...re: When doing business in Iceland, remember that it is considered bad form to discuss the weather.--I found this kind of funny. Nice ice, today, don't you think?

And don't discuss religion or politics in Ireland...LOL.

31 posted on 07/22/2006 1:51:37 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Republicain
The question is : "who wants to invade Iceland ?"

Well, it does make for a nice mid-point post between Europe and North America. Think of it as a huge, icy, fixed aircraft carrier....

(If NATO doesn't fall apart) their security should be fine. Their economy, on the other hand, will need to adjust....

32 posted on 07/22/2006 1:52:09 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Republicain

I'm disappointed in this class. The real reason the USA wants to invade and/or cut-off Iceland is they are harboring Bobby Fischer. The only chess grand master on the FBI's top ten most wanted list scrambled to his hideout when the mean old US Justice Department made his a cause celebre. Crime: Playing chess in Sarajevo (where the winter Olympics had been held a few years earlier). Curling-si; castling-no


33 posted on 07/22/2006 1:54:34 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: monkapotamus

You know, there's no US entry to that list. Nobody has to worry about offending us, I guess.


34 posted on 07/22/2006 1:55:51 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Every Icelander we ran into felt that they made a living wage and didn't need tips. There is a very high tax ( I think it was 18%) called the VAT tax. Visitors got every cent paid in taxes back at the airport when you leave and give them receipts. They all get free education and health care although it isn't entirely free. You have to pay something with every doctor's visit. If you have a disease like diabetes, everything for your care is provided. They do have a young population and it will be interesting to see what happens to their health care as the population ages. They are also crazy on New Year's Eve. Fireworks are part of their gross national product. Everyone shoots them from their porches and roofs. Most of the Icelanders speak Icelandic and English.


35 posted on 07/22/2006 1:59:04 PM PDT by Merry
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To: Vision
This bombshell was dropped in a single telephone call from an underling at the State Department, followed by a letter from the US ambassador

So, are you saying because it's written in the newspaper - it's gospel

I've known about it for months...and I'm jujst a lil ole great-gramma in New England.

They've known about it longer.

They may have just gotten the final, formal notification - but it ain't "news"

36 posted on 07/22/2006 2:00:32 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Gee, most ingrates are begging us to leave, namely S. Korea.

How long after we left there would it be before Kim Il Ding Dong's hordes stormed over the S. Korean border?
37 posted on 07/22/2006 2:00:47 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
I don't know about th cold war being over. I think the saber-rattling part of the cold war is over. But Putin still has his hand in affairs that can destabilize American security. Remember their involvement in the Oil-for Food scandal and the fact that they just happened to be against enforcing the UN resolution to which they signed on? Russia, and other neo-socialist heads of state like him, have proven to be as obstructionist as ever with regard to individual freedom from totalitarian rule.

In my opinion, while we won the first go-around, the defeat of that enemy has resulted in the advent of many smaller enemies who are in some ways far more dangerous, because their influence is more insidious, they are far more difficult to track, they use tactics outside of the scope of our armed forces' traditional training, and they hide under the protection of an obstructionist United Nations.

So yes, we defeated the USSR. And with regard to Russia, Iceland is no longer a key base of operations. The Icelandic shrieks of protest over our pullout are nothing deliciously ironic considering the open disdain they expressed toward our troops. Historically, the relationships between a military base and the surrounding civilian population have a tendency to devolve into a love-hate thing if a long-term military presence exists. The indigenous civilians love the influx of cash, and maybe even the protection that the base provides, but eventually begin to openly resent the military's presence. After awhile, the military personnel perceive the civilians' true sentiments, and begin to return the antipathy. I think that's what we saw, for example, in the Phillipines after WW2 (when then-Ambassador to the Phillipines Adm. Raymond Spruance orchestrated the election of a pro-US PI president), which intensified during the Vietnam conflict up to the end of our final pullout in the 1990s.

Of course it is important that we maintain forward bases in the world's potential hot spots. But does the DOD rotate units out of these areas after a certain time period, or does the same unit stay there decade after decade? Rotating units through the AO might satisfy our need for a flexible, mobile, ready military. It may also keep things fresh for the troops and the indigenous civilian population as well, and might even improve the relationship between the US military and the host population. Anyway, that's my $0.02 on the matter.

38 posted on 07/22/2006 2:01:14 PM PDT by 60Gunner (It takes a liberal to ruin a village...)
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To: Yossarian

Think of it as a huge, icy, fixed aircraft carrier.

You are actually wrong about that. There is a warm current that runs on the side of Iceland. The temperatures are very moderate. It's nice there all year around unless you go up into the glaciers.


39 posted on 07/22/2006 2:01:52 PM PDT by Merry
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To: MCPO Airdale
Most Icelanders think it is America's duty to defend them. They would rather spend their taxes on social programs than the defense of their nation.

As if Germany is any different? Or South Korea? Or any other nation that saves a billion or so on defense spending?

40 posted on 07/22/2006 2:01:54 PM PDT by Teacher317
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