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7/17 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1666537/posts?page=3202 ^ | 7/17/06 | me

Posted on 07/16/2006 11:11:16 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

09:02 Amir Peretz: We won`t stop fighting before achieving our objectives (Haaretz)

08:52 Barrage of Katyusha rockets hits Kiryat Shmona (Itim)

08:48 IDF arrested 12 wanted Palestinian militants in overnight West Bank raids (Itim)

08:32 Two Qassam rockets land in Ashkelon; no casualties or damage reported (Channel 10)

08:07 One IDF soldier lightly injured in fighting in northern Gaza Strip (Israel Radio)

07:57 Asia-Pacific officials working to evacuate citizens from Lebanon (AP)

07:31 Rocket barrage slams into Safed; no immediate report of casualties, damage (Haaretz)

07:30 Two people lightly injured in Acre from rocket hits (Haaretz)

07:21 Alarm sirens heard in Tiberias, no hits reported as yet (Channel 10)

07:20 Two people lightly wounded by sharpnel in Qassam hits on Sderot (Haaretz)

07:07 Lebanese: IDF attacks Beirut port; large fire breaks out (AP)

07:00 Third Qassam rocket hits Sderot; no casualties reported (Haaretz)

06:56 IDF soldier injured in Beit Hanun (Haaretz)

06:49 Katyusha rocket hits community near northern town of Acre; 4 people injured (Haaretz)

06:43 Two loud explosions rock southern suburbs of Beirut (AP)

06:37 Two Qassam rockets hit Sderot; no casualties (Israel Radio)

06:16 Lebanese: 17 fatalities, 9 of them soldiers, in latest round of IDF strikes (Israel Radio)

06:13 Qassam rocket hits western Negev; no casualties (Israel Radio)

06:08 IAF strikes over 50 targets in Lebanon in overnight attacks (Israel Radio)

06:05 IDF says air raid sirens in Haifa were false alarm (Israel Radio)

06:03 Air raid sirens sound in Haifa (AP)

05:46 IDF: Lebanese military involved in Friday attack on Israeli ship (AP)

05:43 IDF: Radar stations targeted were used in Friday attack on Israeli ship (AP)

05:37 IDF: Latest attacks in Lebanon are against radar stations used by Hezbollah (AP)

05:13 Israel blames Hizbollah after Canadian deaths in southern Lebanon (Reuters)

04:35 Oil surges back toward record highs after weekend of Middle East violence (Reuters)

04:13 13 killed, including 8 soldiers, in renewed overnight IDF attacks in Lebanon (AP)

03:21 EU foreign ministers discuss diplomatic options in effort to end Mideast violence (AP)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; middleeast; muhammadsminions; syria; terrorism; terrorists; ww3
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To: tsmith130

I'm pretty much convinced that Colmes is not much more than a talking cadaver. Seems nice enough, but really, what relevance does he bring to the discussion?


2,061 posted on 07/17/2006 6:53:29 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
getting the vapors because President Bush used the S word

They all should have known they'd get no anti-Boosh traction with that. The worst reaction FNC could find, besides the Miss Manners thing about talking with his mouth full, was to the effect that "Almost everything he says bothers me, but not that!"

The American citizen most likely to be upset about the open-mic bit is Laura Bush, and that's between her and her husband...

2,062 posted on 07/17/2006 6:53:35 PM PDT by umbagi (Monthly Donor [entry level])
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To: SE Mom
It's one thing to pick up the phone and say, Mr. President...I have some advice..it's another to do it on the public airwaves.

In the first scenario, you would actually be trying to be of some help. In the second, you would be trying to get some publicity for yourself by the surefire tactic of saying something ugly about the President. Choosing the second does not speak well of his character, no matter how smart he is.

2,063 posted on 07/17/2006 6:53:44 PM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: Sunshine55; rebel_yell2

The last I saw on a thread was a post from him happy that the State Department had finally given directives for evacuation.


2,064 posted on 07/17/2006 6:55:00 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Bahbah

Precisely right.


2,065 posted on 07/17/2006 6:56:27 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Conservababe
"Do yall think Condi should go to Israel after their admonishments not to do so yet?"

No I don't think we should fall into the diplomacy trap. Diplomacy in this instance means delaying the inevitable confrontation. Israel has justification and even Arab states are staying out of this - probably because they don't want to deal with Hezbollah on their soil.

My 2 cents.
2,066 posted on 07/17/2006 6:57:38 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: gentlestrength

gentlestrength wrote:

TB: Because I think this is all part of the same thing
GB: Yeah



There it is, straight from the guys who the PDB's are written for.

I think "CE" is proper British for "Condi".

For any latecomers, here's the drill:

The Axis, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, and North Korea, either have to fight and win, or be disarmed, by the US and Britain, one by one, divide and conquor.

Trouble is, the only military options open to the Axis are extreme, like closing the Gulf and bottling up all the oil, Saudi, Iraqi, Kuwaiti, rump states etc, or attacking into Iraq.

The Axis desperately need some sort of visible casus belli to do what they want (need) to do without opening themselves to charges of attacking Islamic brothers.

Israel understands this, as do all of the major players, in the Gulf, western, you name it.

As Bush predicted, the economic math forces everyone, globally, to choose sides, "you're either with us or with the terrorists". Even the UN is playing hardball trying to lure Americans into Syria for "evacuation".

Few want to see the US and Britain sitting on all the oil, even by default and terrorism takes a distant second place in their priority lists.

Israel wants Hezbollah crushed, but not necessarily at the price of giving the Axis casus belli, so they may settle for a strategy based on a limited incursion to suppress missiles only. Of course, Hezbollah will not sit still for this, and even a minimally occupying force has the right to self defense. Israel could "little bit" their way right up to the north end of the Bejkaa before all is said and done.

The desperate Axis may have to take whatever casus belli they can get, hoping to re-write the history books as global winners, so even a limited incursion risks regional involvement. For this reason, I don't expect to see Israel move until civilian allies are out of Beirut and until all missile defense assets possible are in place. The Golan threat axis has to be secured as well, but that has long been priority one for Israel and I expect this has already been accomplished.


2,067 posted on 07/17/2006 6:57:44 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: austinaero
He brings no relevance. Sometimes FOX is so caught up in their 'Fair and Balanced' that the 'other side's' representative looks ridiculous...and that would be Alan. Five nights a week. Imagine being irrelevant 5 nights a week!
2,068 posted on 07/17/2006 6:58:14 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Conservababe

No not yet. Israel needs to stand on their own feet and defend themsleves or they will never achieve the perception of that capability.


2,069 posted on 07/17/2006 6:58:29 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Conservababe

Thanks for the info. Thank God!


2,070 posted on 07/17/2006 6:59:35 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (What's the difference between Hillary and God? God doesn't think he's Hillary.)
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To: SE Mom; All

Don't forget the alternate FR site:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freerepublic2/?yguid=95479470


2,071 posted on 07/17/2006 6:59:42 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: RDTF

Personally, I'm just an arm-chair wanna be. Or as some have put it, a keyboard commando. Lol. Anyway, I'm glad I am not the one making the important decisions.

That being said, my opinion is that Israel needs to listen to NO ONE but Israel. Israel is the one shedding blood, Israel calls the shots. Period.


2,072 posted on 07/17/2006 7:00:23 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: tsmith130
Well, I am still wondering why Marvin Kalb and Wesley Clark NEVER have an opposing person against them. And Marvin Kalb is absolutely a pompous fool.

Hannity, of course, goes with the WWIII thing just now because that is the last opinion he heard. He can be distracted with shiny objects, methinks.

And now, here's a great pair...Greta and Shep!!!

I may have to give up and go to bed.

2,073 posted on 07/17/2006 7:02:01 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

I have a stack of books I need to read. Maybe it's time.


2,074 posted on 07/17/2006 7:02:47 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Conservababe

According to the time difference, Rebel should be in the process of getting in line right about now for shipping out.


2,075 posted on 07/17/2006 7:02:55 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: tsmith130
I think so. I have had a long day with grandkids, and I will have them again tomorrow. I will check in if I wake up in the middle of the night.

Good night!

2,076 posted on 07/17/2006 7:03:54 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

"Give Appeasement A Chance" - the repellent theme song of the "Hate America - Especially When She's Strong" gang...


2,077 posted on 07/17/2006 7:04:18 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Miss Marple

Sleep well!


2,078 posted on 07/17/2006 7:04:51 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: austinaero

Ahh yes a keyboard commando!
Israel needs to make their own decisions, but it's such a compicated situation with many consequences.


2,079 posted on 07/17/2006 7:05:04 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Miss Marple

Good night!


2,080 posted on 07/17/2006 7:05:41 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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