Posted on 07/13/2006 8:22:00 AM PDT by itsinthebag
Developing . . .
I don't know enough about artillery, eyespysomething, to answer that. I'll try to listen more carefully next time to see if FNC reports how far the artillery goes.
[DAFFY DUCK] Oh, no ya don't! Not THIS time, Buster. THIS time he's gonna wait 'til we get home.
Because if we diddle with Syria then Iran knows that they are next...
Make sure you pay attention when the liturgy gets to the story of Joseph being sold into Egypt......
Prayers for her safety.
I don't anyone in the area is dumb enough to think the Islamics will win the shooting war. I do think the leaders of Syria and Iran may believe that a shooting war with Israel, even one they lose, will strengthen the domestic strength of their respecitve regimes.
As a bonus, a shooting war with Israel will also put enormous domestic pressue on the Iraqi government. Don't forget how Iraq got involved in the 1973 war. The Iraqi government can either show at least moral support for the Islamic side, or risk being repudiated by its people as Zionist stooges. Either way relations with the US will be very strained. I can see the rulers of Syria and Iran thinking that result is worth losing some military hardware and a few thousand troops.
#324
HA!
American corporatists would dance on string or sell their own mothers to continue doing business with China! They are already accomplices in the illegal immigration game.
Prayers for her and her family.
ESPECIALLY her.
Pardon me for answering a rhetorical question, but Ahmadinejad has been poking Israel with a stick for months -- perhaps this is fully intentional (and, as you said, stupid). It does look increasingly like the Mullahs have a bomb they want to play with.
In which case, Syria as well as Iran have become official co-conspirators and legitimate targets in the war...
Are you referring to the Jews, or just Israel proper. Because last I checked, He didn't lift a finger to keep them out of the ovens. His providence may have guided us into the conflict to save what was left of them, but unless you're willing to assume that God positively willed the extermination of six million Jews, it seems wrong to say that God has a hand in EVERYTHING.
Israel has information that Hizbullah guerrillas who captured two Israeli soldiers are trying to transfer them to Iran, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said.
Regev did not disclose the source of his information.
The IDF released the names of the two soldiers on Thursday. According to the IDF Spokesperson, the two reserve are Ehud Goldwasser, 31, from Nahariya, and Eldad Regev, 26, from Kiryat Motzkin.
Hizbullah guerrillas, who are backed by Iran, seized the soldiers Wednesday in a cross-border raid.
OC Northern Command Lt.-Gen. Udi Adam said Thursday evening that the army has hit hundreds of targets in Lebanon since Wednesday night.
Adam added that Israel has not ruled out sending ground forces into Lebanon. He told reporters that even Northern Command had come under Katyusha fire during the day.
"I imagine over time that we will be able to rid ourselves of this threat entirely," he said.
Earlier in the day, IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Dan Halutz confirmed Thursday that the soldiers who had been kidnapped by Hizbullah a day before were still alive.
"We know the soldiers are alive and we hold the Lebanese government completey responsible," he said during a tour of the North.
Israel was not at war with Lebanon but at a "high volume crisis," he added.
He said that a new reality has been created on the northern border that started yesterday with the deaths of eight soldiers.
The focus of the operation in Lebanon would be to restore Israel's deterrent capability against those in Lebanon, referring to Hizbullah, who thought the IDF was irrelevant, he explained.
"The goal is to create a new reality in the north," Halutz told reporters, "Such attacks will not be tolerated."
Halutz said the north was well protected by shelters but he could not guarantee that Israeli civilians would not be harmed during the current campaign in Lebanon.
He also revealed that OC Northern Command Maj.-Gen. Udi Adam had set up an investigative committee into Wednesday's kidnapping, which would be headed
12th imam...12 tribes...
You think I am kidding...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2384380&mesg_id=2384380
The Israelis were pushing the tube issue before we were. We bought into a load of crap.
You contend "Most U.S. experts think they are intended to serve as rotors in centrifuges used to enrich uranium." Link? I'm sure you are well aware that the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY did not agree with this assessment. Neither did various other intel groups, including the ones at State that, in hindsight, seemed to be the most accurate pre-war. What I stated is that no one who builds centrifuges has agreed that these tubes are designed for that purpose. If you want to controvert that, show me such a statement from someone who builds centrifuges.
And you are going to rely upon comments straight out of the Powell speech that he is running away from at top speed? Why don't you even acknowledge what our own DOE said about the tubes?:
"Based on the reported specifications, the tubes could be used to manufacture gas centrifuge rotor cylinders for uranium enrichment. However, our analysis indicates that the specified tube diameter, which is half that of the centrifuge machine Iraq successfully tested in 1990, is only marginally large enough for practical centrifuge applications, and other specifications are not consistent with a gas centrifuge end use. Moreover, the quantity being sought suggests preparations for large-scale production of centrifuge machines, for which we have not seen related procurement efforts - and the tubes’ specifications suggest a centrifuge design quite different from any Iraq is known to have. Thus, we assess that this procurement activity more likely supports a different application. ... While the gas centrifuge application cannot be ruled out, we assess that the procurement activity more likely supports a different application, such as conventional ordnance production. For example, the tube specifications and quantity appear to be generally consistent with their use as launch tubes for man-held anti-armor rockets or as tactical rocket casings. Also, the manner in which the procurement is being handled (multiple procurement agents, quotes obtained from multiple suppliers in diverse locations, and price haggling) seems to better match our expectations for a conventional Iraqi military buy than a major purchase for a clandestine weapons-of-mass destruction program."
There's your "US experts."
If you want to disagree with every rational post-war assessment of these tubes, that's fine. That's not the point at hand. The point at hand is that the Israelis saying they have "concerns" based on their intel is a far, far cry from "proof" that those concerns are actually fact.
Does it mean the Hezbollah crowd frantically begging the Iranians to take these guys off their hands?
Or is this the Iranians issuing an invitation to their surrogates to "send 'em on over"?
The two possibilities hold very different likely outcomes for Middle East and world peace.
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