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Slavery Reparations Gaining Momentum
AP ^ | July 09, 2006 | ERIN TEXEIRA

Posted on 07/09/2006 11:16:25 AM PDT by TomServo

Advocates who say black Americans should be compensated for slavery and its Jim Crow aftermath are quietly chalking up victories and gaining momentum.

Fueled by the work of scholars and lawyers, their campaign has morphed in recent years from a fringe-group rallying cry into sophisticated, mainstream movement. Most recently, a pair of churches apologized for their part in the slave trade, and one is studying ways to repay black church members.

The overall issue is hardly settled, even among black Americans: Some say that focusing on slavery shouldn't be a top priority or that it doesn't make sense to compensate people generations after a historical wrong.

Yet reparations efforts have led a number of cities and states to approve measures that force businesses to publicize their historical ties to slavery. Several reparations court cases are in progress, and international human rights officials are increasingly spotlighting the issue.

"This matter is growing in significance rather than declining," said Charles Ogletree, a Harvard law professor and a leading reparations activist. "It has more vigor and vitality in the 21st century than it's had in the history of the reparations movement."

The most recent victories for reparations advocates came in June, when the Moravian Church and the Episcopal Church both apologized for owning slaves and promised to battle current racism. The Episcopalians also launched a national, yearslong probe into church slavery links and into whether the church should compensate black members. A white church member, Katrina Browne, also screened a documentary focusing on white culpability at the denomination's national assembly.

The Episcopalians debated slavery and reparations for years before reaching an agreement, said Jayne Oasin, social justice officer for the denomination, who will oversee its work on the issue.

Historically, slavery was an uncomfortable topic for the church. Some Episcopal bishops owned slaves - and the Bible was used to justify the practice, Oasin said.

"Why not (take these steps) 100 years ago?" she said. "Let's talk about the complicity of the Episcopal Church as one of the institutions of this country who, of course, benefited from slavery."

Also in June, a North Carolina commission urged the state government to repay the descendants of victims of a violent 1898 campaign by white supremacists to strip blacks of power in Wilmington, N.C. As many as 60 blacks died, and thousands were driven from the city.

The commission also recommended state-funded programs to support local black businesses and home ownership.

The report came weeks after the Organization of American States requested information from the U.S. government about a 1921 race riot in Tulsa, Okla., in which 1,200 homes were burned and as many as 300 blacks killed. An OAS official said the group might pursue the issue as a violation of international human rights.

The modern reparations movement revived an idea that's been around since emancipation, when black leaders argued that newly freed slaves deserved compensation.

About six years ago, the issue started gaining momentum again. Randall Robinson's "The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks," was a best seller; reparations became a central issue at the World Conference on Racism in Durban, South Africa; and California legislators passed the nation's first law forcing insurance companies that do business with the state to disclose their slavery ties. Illinois passed a similar insurance law in 2003, and the next year Iowa legislators began requesting - but not forcing - the same disclosures.

Several cities - including Chicago, Detroit and Oakland - have laws requiring that all businesses make such disclosures.

Reparations opponents insist that no living American should have to pay for a practice that ended more than 140 years ago. Plus, programs such as affirmative action and welfare already have compensated for past injustices, said John H. McWhorter, a senior fellow at the conservative Manhattan Institute.

"The reparations movement is based on a fallacy that cripples the thinking on race - the fallacy that what ails black America is a cash problem," said McWhorter, who is black. "Giving people money will not solve the problems that we have."

Even so, support is reaching beyond African-Americans and the South.

Katrina Browne, the white Episcopalian filmmaker, is finishing a documentary about her ancestors, the DeWolfs of Bristol, R.I., the biggest slave-trading family in U.S. history. She screened it for Episcopal Church officials at the June convention.

"Traces of the Trade: A Story From the Deep North," details how the economies of the Northeast and the nation as a whole depended on slaves.

"A lot of white people think they know everything there is to know about slavery - we all agree it was wrong and that's enough," Browne said. "But this was the foundation of our country, not some Southern anomaly. We all inherit responsibility."

She says neither whites nor blacks will heal from slavery until formal hearings expose the full history of slavery and its effects - an effort similar to South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission after apartheid collapsed.


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To: TomServo

Reparations have already been paid in the form of affirmative action and "civil rights" laws. Blacks can improve their situation only by leaving the liberal plantation.


141 posted on 07/09/2006 3:29:08 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters
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To: TomServo
I'm all for giving money as repatriations...provided the person was alive prior to the Civil War and can prove they were indeed slaves.

Otherwise, forget it.

142 posted on 07/09/2006 3:45:59 PM PDT by Budge (<>< Sit Nomen Domini benedictum. <><)
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To: All
Reparations?


143 posted on 07/09/2006 3:46:34 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (U.S. government: Voluntary domestic laws and policies assuring self-destruction)
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To: TomServo
Of all the useless groups in this country, the Episcopal Church is at the top of the list.
A commission in North Carolina recommends compensation. No doubt the group was stacked with cranks from Chapel Hill and Duke.
144 posted on 07/09/2006 3:50:34 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: Nowhere Man
== where will it end? ==

Illegal aliens would be next. After all we took part of Mexico. They just want to be made whole ya know.

145 posted on 07/09/2006 3:52:53 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (U.S. government: Voluntary domestic laws and policies assuring self-destruction)
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To: ArrogantBustard; ProtectOurFreedom

Quoting from the article: "Advocates who say black Americans should be compensated for slavery and its Jim Crow aftermath are quietly chalking up victories and gaining momentum."

Because as you say no living Americans were ever slaves or slave owners, the writer broadens the target to include the Jim Crow repression that followed right up until the middle of the last century.

But, as I pointed out, it was the DNC that was the author and defender of Jim Crow laws and the whole repressive apparatus, and once they caved, most black voters joined the DNC, rendering the point moot, in my opinion. The fact that the overwhelming majority joined the DNC demonstrates that they do not consider that party to be still collectively guilty of its past. So I suppose, having voted with their feet, they would agree with you. Any collective guilt I might be willing to ascribe to the DNC, black voters have forgiven. That should settle the issue.

If the DNC isn't "collectively" guilty, no one is.


146 posted on 07/09/2006 4:02:55 PM PDT by marron
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To: goldstategop

147 posted on 07/09/2006 4:09:44 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: TomServo

All I can think of is that Family Guy episode where Peter discovers that one of his ancestors was a slave, sues everyone for reparations, and then blows the money on converting the living room into a replica of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.


148 posted on 07/09/2006 5:28:53 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: Manic_Episode

But just think what reperations would do for Cadillac division of troubled GM.


149 posted on 07/09/2006 5:54:09 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: Sarastro
There are lots of generalizations about black Americans on this thread, so I feel free to add my own (subject to exceptions, as with all generalizations):

If I were on the front lines and the Sergeant sent me into battle, telling me to take Dashawn Green or Ali Hajeeb, I'd take Dashawn every time.



I find your post extremely hypocritical. You criticize popular(not mine) views of black Americans on FR ( Eg laziness, crime etc) but in the next breath act like a KKK Grand Wizard and turn on people with Arabic names. Sure wipe out terrorists and their supporters but their are a large number of patriotic Americans of Arab descent most of them followers of Christ. How can you possibly argue against unfair generalizations of black Americans whilst wholeheartedly claiming that blacks are superior to americans with Arabic names. You remind me of the slave that was forgiven his debts by his master but turned on his inferior slave who was in a much worse position than himself and refused to forgive him of his meager debt. Bottom line you shouldn't advocate a positive image of black American's many achievements by putting down those lower on the social food chain . BTW I am not arabic but personally know many decent lebanese descent people.
150 posted on 07/09/2006 5:56:14 PM PDT by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: oldtimer

How much more should I have to pay??? I live in Illinois and have been paying for reparations via taxes my entire life. Never a thank you or even a reach around. Hehehe.


151 posted on 07/09/2006 5:57:18 PM PDT by Phibes
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To: Manic_Episode



Dr. Charlotte A. Twight in her "Dependent on D.C." book & other economic analysts estimate the welfare payments and other social subsidies provided since President Johnson's Great Society exceed

$ 6 Trillion.

Isn't this enough? In addition to the lives lost during the Civil War?


152 posted on 07/09/2006 5:59:50 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Privatize, don't subsidize!)
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To: TomServo
That's not what's important. THIS is what's important. Eventually, in 2008, Hillary will be forced to take a stand on Reparations. Possibly against a Condi or Rudy. We win that debate hands down.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

153 posted on 07/09/2006 6:00:15 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: 4Liberty

The deficiency in your argument is that much of that six trillion went to subsidies for whites and other minorities as well as blacks.
True,a higher PROPORTION probably went to blacks but if you lived in San Francisco or Berkeley in the late Sixties,you would have seen many very white and very healthy looking hippies and their"old ladies"paying for their groceries with food stamps.


154 posted on 07/09/2006 6:21:17 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: goldstategop

Good catch on the name;)


155 posted on 07/09/2006 6:34:12 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: section9; TomServo

"Eventually, in 2008, Hillary will be forced to take a stand on Reparations."

From:
http://issues2002.org/Domestic/Hillary_Clinton_Civil_Rights.htm

"Hillary Clinton on Civil Rights"

Q: "Will you support reparations for African-Americans?"

CLINTON: "We have mental, emotional and psychological reparations to pay first. We have to admit that we haven't always treated people in our own country fairly. We have some issues that we have to address when it comes to racial justice right now. I'm willing to work hard to be a strong advocate for Civil Rights and human rights here at home and around the world. I want to do everything I can to make sure that the programs and policies that have helped generations of African-Americans have a better life in this country continue. I think we should be focused on the present and on the future. We owe an apology to African-Americans for hundreds of years of slavery."


156 posted on 07/09/2006 6:41:19 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
American Indians.

Cherokee Indians owned Slaves as well.

157 posted on 07/09/2006 8:03:38 PM PDT by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: TomServo
Well, if it comes to that then I would have some stipulations:

1) No More Minority status
2) No More Affirmative Action
3) No More Scholastic advantages that are strictly based on race
4) No more ANYTHING that divides people along racial lines. In fact, I would erase this constraint from all public books where race is being considered as a criteria for any government benefit or service.
How much you want to bet they will never give government benefits up no matter how much money anybody give them. Why? Because it's not about equality anymore. It's about payback.
158 posted on 07/09/2006 8:13:32 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: kcvl

bttt


159 posted on 07/09/2006 8:22:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: mc6809e

bttt


160 posted on 07/09/2006 8:24:19 PM PDT by nopardons
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