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Sorry if I over simplyfy this.
1 posted on 07/07/2006 11:00:05 AM PDT by 18yearold
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To: 18yearold

IBTZ?


2 posted on 07/07/2006 11:01:44 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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Hmmmm.......


3 posted on 07/07/2006 11:01:55 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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Nice thought, if the douche that ran NK wasnt a maniacal tyrant that actually wants closed borders....He's posturing for concessions so he can keep his little tyranny before the people rise up and hang him do to starvation...


4 posted on 07/07/2006 11:02:19 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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Open borders? Three letters: DMZ


5 posted on 07/07/2006 11:02:38 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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Okay. One minor problem: What do they have that we want?


6 posted on 07/07/2006 11:02:43 AM PDT by RichInOC ("Hans, Hans, you bleaking my barrs...")
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That is what he is hoping for.....NK are notorious scammers and extortionists.
7 posted on 07/07/2006 11:02:54 AM PDT by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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Go and smack your high school English teacher for all of us.


8 posted on 07/07/2006 11:02:57 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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It's not us, it's them. WE are open, they are not. You can travel to SK but a NK cannot under pain of DEATH!..............


9 posted on 07/07/2006 11:03:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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Why not just open up to NK? The worst possible thing that douche would want is open borders. Let ustrade, and our allies trade with NK and then the people there will see what the truth is and rise up. I knoe this seems over simplified, but this nut in NK scares me.

First of all, opening borders with a communist country doesn't really work. They don't have capitalist-style banking, laws that would allow trade to work well, and any number of other factors.

Secondly, the concept that has worked well in the past is to isolate communists. If they were a functional system, they would prosper in our absence -- as we prosper in their absence.

Thirdly, this guy's not well. He will continue to be unpredictable, and I suspect before he dies he will use a nuke in anger.

14 posted on 07/07/2006 11:05:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Isalm is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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You would have agents of NK all over SK. Before long SK would topple. You forget the Chicoms are behind NK.


15 posted on 07/07/2006 11:05:42 AM PDT by Dallas59
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I think we are still technically at war with NK. We signed an armistice but never a final peace treaty.


17 posted on 07/07/2006 11:06:28 AM PDT by Busywhiskers (Hoist the black flag.)
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QUESTION: Would these dong missiles be more dangerous if they were surrounded in silos?


18 posted on 07/07/2006 11:06:39 AM PDT by meandog (If I were to draw the odious Islamic prophet Muhammad, he would have horns, a tail, and a pitchfork!)
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Kill Ronery Kim first.


19 posted on 07/07/2006 11:07:12 AM PDT by Dallas59
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Open borders and free trade require two willing participants and Kim Jung-Il, for the reasons you pointed out, does not want open borders and free trade.


20 posted on 07/07/2006 11:07:42 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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"Let ustrade, and our allies trade with NK and then the people there will see what the truth is and rise up."

A. They have nothing to trade due to their adherence to a communist system.
B. Their media is COMPLETELY controlled, therefor the people will not "see what the truth is".
C. They possess not the means to rise up, i.e. arms, a theology of freedom, etc.
D. We have tried peaceful coexistence with the COMMUNIST regimes before. We have provided them food as their citizens starved, even to the USSR during the height of the cold war!

The bottom line is they are COMMUNISTS, and therefor not reasonable or sane. Dealing with them as if they are reasonable is insane. Get it?


21 posted on 07/07/2006 11:08:19 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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but this nut in NK scares me.

35 years ago, I felt this way about Russia. Then I saw the pitiful quality in their cars and cameras. The NK missile failed in its launch. I think the threat is overblown hype.

22 posted on 07/07/2006 11:08:52 AM PDT by aimhigh
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Good Lord, did you pass history? Then again it depends on who was teaching or grading.

Sounds to me like either you weren't taught, or you didn't learn.

Anyway, if you get a chance, compare and contrast how the Clinton administration dealt with NK with the Bush administration. See if "cooperation" and "agreements" got anythign done in the past.

History will judge what this president does in these critical days. It will be Reaganesque.


23 posted on 07/07/2006 11:10:15 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (A country without secure borders will not long be a country.)
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So ronery.

24 posted on 07/07/2006 11:12:26 AM PDT by evets (huh?)
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Congratulations on your graduation! That is a great accomplishment. Great question about NK.

Just off the cuff my thoughts are they are first choking off the life blood and giving specific consequences for bad behavior, and or know that if they did not sanction the 'Il' would take it all anyway and still use the same manipulative tactics with the general population (starvation etc) to control them. Lastly, it is a sickness and they want to contain it.

Think for a moment if the 'Il' spread his tactics to S. Korea and just ended up widening his territory of repression, as opposed to the opposite happening. At least right now the problem is isolated and has clearly defined borders (minus of course the behind the scenes support of the Chinese--but even this is a known factor). Thus is it easier to contain the threat.

Sometimes the unknown is worst than the known and this is sometimes why we see, in my opinion, small steps taken with countries such as NK unless they become a huge threat, versus just wiping out the leaders. Look at all the energy, time and money it is taking to rebuild Iraq. Can you imagine this happening in at least two to three other countries such as Iran and NK at the same time? It would leave the US over taxed and possibly unable to defend itself from even larger threats such as an attack from China/Russia etc. JMO. Food for thought. Thanks for the post.

26 posted on 07/07/2006 11:13:08 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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I suggest you go to the nearest bookstore and buy Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. It's a long read, but well worth the time. You will be enlightened forevermore............
27 posted on 07/07/2006 11:14:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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