Mexico election too close to call (exit poll released)

Reuters ^ | 7/2/06 | Kieran Murray and Alistair Bell

[driftdiver]

not really, I probably should have included the obligatory /s tag. I'm having trouble beleiving how bad central and south america is getting. Guess this is the benefits of Clinton finally comin home.

[Texasforever]

Could it be that the "polls" were garbage?

[COEXERJ145]

The words "poll" and "garbage" tend to be synonymous.

[LdSentinal]

Too early to say. Can't figure out where these returns are coming from nor are there any raw totals to find.

[driftdiver]

"The ONLY way that we will EVER solve the crisis that is our Southern Border is Mexico FINALLY becoming a prosperous country. "

I've read that is why Reagon created NAFTA. I don't beleive its working. Too much corruption and influence from the drug dealers. Canadians are pretty good people, even better if you could eliminate the liberal garbage they are being fed.

"And beyond that, we don't want a committed leftist on our Southern border, given that Chavez would INSTANTLY have an ally 1000 miles closer to the US than before."

Chavez has allies in the US already.

[shield]

Isn't that the MO of the leftist...lie all the time, trying to fool the folks...that'll usually backfire on 'em cause....it probably isn't that close and Mexicans will vote the conservative in. Kinda like what the lefties tried to do here in 2004....didn't work for skerry...won't work for the commie candidate in Mexico.

[LdSentinal]

3.32% in.

Calderon: 40.99%
Obrador: 33.69%
Madrazo: 18.90%

[MikefromOhio]

I've read that is why Reagon created NAFTA. I don't beleive its working. Too much corruption and influence from the drug dealers. Canadians are pretty good people, even better if you could eliminate the liberal garbage they are being fed.

The only thing not working on that post is the spelling. FR has a spell-check, use it. AT least gets REAGAN'S name right!

Chavez has allies in the US already.

uh huh. Except they are just assholes and idiots, instead of being in charge of an entire country.

You can try to hedge all you want, but a PROSPEROUS Mexico is the only SUREFIRE way to check illegal immigration into our country. To want anything else is pure lunacy.

[ARealMothersSonForever]

The ONLY way that we will EVER solve the crisis that is our Southern Border is Mexico FINALLY becoming a prosperous country.

You are going to single handedly take the fun out of this for the extremists. For you are spot on correct. Only question is: how to do it? Massive US government aid ala NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Maquilodora program (which have helped but not fixed); or brutal and inhumane sanctions? Maybe a new War On different Drugs. From the conservative aspect, I have not seen liberty expansion and economic growth from any of the aforementioned programs. Military intervention must be a last resort. What lies between the current situation and military intervention I do not know. I do believe that the tension and animosity is not good.

[LdSentinal]

4.04% in.

Calderon: 40.82%
Obrador: 33.91%
Madrazo: 18.81%

[MikefromOhio]

You are going to single handedly take the fun out of this for the extremists. For you are spot on correct. Only question is: how to do it? Massive US government aid ala NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Maquilodora program (which have helped but not fixed); or brutal and inhumane sanctions? Maybe a new War On different Drugs. From the conservative aspect, I have not seen liberty expansion and economic growth from any of the aforementioned programs. Military intervention must be a last resort. What lies between the current situation and military intervention I do not know. I do believe that the tension and animosity is not good.

Massive Government aid has SURE helped areas of Africa and all that. No, the only way for the Mexicans to make their country prosperous is to do it THEMSELVES. Maybe them electing someone other than Fox will push them along that path. We might not fully see it within our lifetimes, but hopefully they will be able to get there. We can help some I guess, we can be friendly to them, trade with them as we see fit, assist them via works or if they need help setting up industry, sure we could do that too, but not massive amounts of $$$. That never really helped anyone that we DID NOT invade or defeat in war (ala Japan and Germany, or Iraq for that matter).

[Dane]

Do they do a run off election in Mexico if in the first time no one gets 50% of the popular votes?

No, just one election.

[umgud]

bump for later results

[AdrianR]

Their election website
http://elecciones.reforma.com/prep2006/default.htm
has a breakdown by region.

Region Calderon AMLO
Circunscripción 1 (Nortwest) 101,116 41,969
Circunscripción 2 (Northeast) 237,354 101,319
Circunscripción 3 (Central/SW) 72,652 85,467
Circunscripción 4 (Central/SW) 97,449 161,986
Circunscripción 5 (Southeast) 102,031 116,609

Circunscripción 2 has significantly more precints reporting and they are heavily pro-Calderon. The final result will certainly be closer. Regional results suggest +3% for Calderon but there may be intra-region differences as well and I do not know enough about Mexico to figure out those.

[driftdiver]

"The only thing not working on that post is the spelling"

Bite ME! How is that spelling?

"You can try to hedge all you want, but a PROSPEROUS Mexico is the only SUREFIRE way to check illegal immigration into our country. To want anything else is pure lunacy."

Comparing Mexico and Canada is where the lunacy is. The cultures are completely different. The corruption and influence of criminals is what keeps certain areas of Mexico poor. Its not the lack of a 8 lanehighway directly into the US's heartland. It's fine if you want to discuss or debate. If you only want to flame or argue then leave me alone.

[LdSentinal]

Thanks.

[jveritas]

Thanks Dane, I hope that Calderon wins.

[Dane]

Circunscripción 2 has significantly more precints reporting and they are heavily pro-Calderon. The final result will certainly be closer. Regional results suggest +3% for Calderon but there may be intra-region differences as well and I do not know enough about Mexico to figure out those.

Looks like Mexico has it's own red/blue line. North and South.

[MikefromOhio]

Bite ME! How is that spelling?

LOL, figured that's what you'd come back with. Now for the English....

Comparing Mexico and Canada is where the lunacy is. The cultures are completely different. The corruption and influence of criminals is what keeps certain areas of Mexico poor. Its not the lack of a 8 lanehighway directly into the US's heartland. It's fine if you want to discuss or debate. If you only want to flame or argue then leave me alone.

Who is comparing the cultures? Not me. Who wants them both to prosper for their own good, you can blame me for that. AS for your 8 lane highway, the NAU hysteria is SO yesterday. Besides that damned Eisenhower (I spelled his name for you since you'd get that one wrong too I'm sure), already BUILT the highway.

[ARealMothersSonForever]

That never really helped anyone that we DID NOT invade or defeat in war (ala Japan and Germany, or Iraq for that matter).

That is precisely the point. Liberals scream about the inhumanity of warfare. Yet every country that the USA has engaged, including Viet Nam, has emerged better off socially, economically, and politically. The case may be made that Mexico and the citizenry would benefit more from a US military operation than they would from a UN sponsored program.