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Mexico election too close to call (exit poll released)
Reuters ^
| 7/2/06
| Kieran Murray and Alistair Bell
Posted on 07/02/2006 6:24:13 PM PDT by lauriehelds
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To: NoAction
Thanks, I did get around to learning more about the Zapatista Liberation Army and their masked leader Comandante Marcos.
According to what I viewed on Spanish language TV last night, they campaigned for Lopez Obrador.
Not good.
I remember when the uprising started in Chiapas... early '80s?
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posted on
07/03/2006 1:50:52 PM PDT
by
La Enchiladita
(God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
To: Tigercap
I live in Mexico. My hard-working, educated amigos are VERY concerned. They recognize the problems with their government for sure, but the Socialist would be a NIGHTMARE. Your real-life understanding of the problem, on the ground and experiencing it, is NOTHING compared to the knee-jerk, uneducated, ignorant opinions of many on this thread!!! I mean, if you have a keyboard your opinion is paramount, facts be damned.
People here just don't understand how Left the PRD is -- in fact El Norte is listing the PRD and PT together as a votinc bloc. YOU know what this means but 5% or fewer of the people on this thread do.
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posted on
07/03/2006 2:00:11 PM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
To: La Enchiladita
According to what I viewed on Spanish language TV last night, they campaigned for Lopez Obrador. That is no more a surprise than Al Jazeera campaigning for J F'ing Kerry.
I specifically remember the last foray by the Zapatistas -- I was in Nuevo Leon at the time.
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posted on
07/03/2006 2:03:20 PM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
To: La Enchiladita
The remaining precincts are mainly in NW Mexico, specifically in Chihuahua and Durango, which are only 88%-89% in. Chiapas is 98.81% in. Mexico City proper (DF) is 99.17% in.
I think this race can be called now.
To: La Enchiladita
With 98.39% in, Calderon's PAN leads by about 398,000 votes and a little over 1%. There are likely (at most) 596,000 votes yet to be counted. The socialist PRD would have to take about 67 percentage points more of the remaining vote than the PAN in the remaining precincts to take over the lead (i.e. 67%-0% or 80%-13% - the PAN can't take more than 17% of the remaining vote for the math to work). A PRD win is even close to a mathematical impossibility, if not a political one.
The bulk of the remaining vote is still from the PAN-prefering NW of Mexico.
It's all over but the protests, assuming the preliminary count is correct.
|
Actual |
Actual % |
|
Projected (by State) |
Projected % |
Calderon (PAN) |
14,020,162 |
36.38% |
|
14,251,608 |
36.42% |
Dinosaur (PRI) |
8,313,759 |
21.58% |
|
8,452,343 |
21.60% |
Socialist (PRD) |
13,621,676 |
35.35% |
|
13,807,222 |
35.29% |
New Alliance |
384,144 |
1.00% |
|
391,116 |
1.00% |
Alternative |
1,085,756 |
2.82% |
|
1,102,585 |
2.82% |
Write-in |
281,069 |
0.73% |
|
285,366 |
0.73% |
Null Votes |
826,862 |
2.15% |
|
839,362 |
2.15% |
Total |
38,533,428 |
|
|
39,129,602 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Precincts Reporting |
128,680 |
|
|
|
|
Total Precincts |
130,788 |
|
|
|
|
PR% |
98.39% |
|
|
|
|
To: LikeLight
one term of six years....
then live off whatever was appropriated
(stolen might be the more appropriate term)
406
posted on
07/03/2006 5:57:49 PM PDT
by
pointsal
(Q)
To: La Enchiladita
Now just waiting for Obrador's next move. Will he concede or take Mexico to the brink?
To: conservative in nyc
It's all over but the protests, assuming the preliminary count is correct. Anyone know if Obrador's people are still bottled up in the Zocolo?
I took a look at Obrador supporters last night (bandanas tied around face, clenched fists) and Calderon supporters (clean cut). Obrador's people look ready to rumble.
To: All
How do you like this? Here is the red-blue divide of Mexico? (Red - Calderon, Blue - Obrador)
To: conservative in nyc
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posted on
07/03/2006 7:09:40 PM PDT
by
La Enchiladita
(God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
To: Heartofsong83; conservative in nyc
I like it. Had heard the northern part is ranchland and more conservative. A very few outlying precincts in the red areas ("the PAN preferring NW" per
conservative in nyc) have yet to report.
So.....
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posted on
07/03/2006 7:13:58 PM PDT
by
La Enchiladita
(God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
To: La Enchiladita
There are a little over 2,000 precincts yet to report. About 40% (835) are in NW Mexico, and nearly a quarter (485) are in the State of Chihuahua. The Chihuahua precincts not yet counted are mainly in regions called "1. Juarez" (about 70), "4. Juarez" (about 70), and "9. Hidalgo del Parral" (over 200). PAN leads big in "4. Juarez" and "9. Hidalgo del Parral", and has a respectable lead in "1. Juarez", with competition from PRI. The PRD runs LAST among the three parties in each of these areas.
288 Precincts are out in NE Mexico, 272 in the extreme South and Yucatan, and 267 and 355 precincts are out in the two Central Mexico regions.
To: BunnySlippers
I remember Lopez Obrador's statement last night, "We're going to the Zocalo." So, he meant it literally as some kind of *vigil*?
Mexico leftist vows to challenge Presidential vote
MEXICO CITY, July 3 (Reuters) - Leftist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said on Monday he will legally challenge results that show him losing by 1 percentage point to the ruling party candidate in Mexico's tightly fought presidential election.
Lopez Obrador told reporters he had found irregularities in preliminary official returns showing him with 35.34 percent of Sunday's vote compared with 36.38 percent for Felipe Calderon, with 98.39 percent of votes counted.
Election authorities are expected to confirm that result after a recount later this week.
Lopez Obrador told reporters he will take his complaint to election tribunals rather than call for street protests.
"We are going to take this to the corresponding legal authorities," he vowed at his campaign headquarters.
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posted on
07/03/2006 7:37:02 PM PDT
by
La Enchiladita
(God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
To: conservative in nyc
Ooops! More than a "few" precincts.
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posted on
07/03/2006 7:39:57 PM PDT
by
La Enchiladita
(God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
To: conservative in nyc
Yet, the puter projects Calderon's lead will go up a couple of tenths of a percent, and his absolute total lead will end up at about 435,000. Unless there was substantial vote fraud, that lead will stand.
415
posted on
07/03/2006 7:43:41 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: BunnySlippers
To the brink.
Manuel Lopez ObraGore.
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posted on
07/03/2006 7:46:38 PM PDT
by
La Enchiladita
(God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
To: Heartofsong83
Very interesting. The south is very Indian ... some of it very dangerous to go into. I'm thinking Tehuantepec, Chiapas and further down. The people are very poor.
I even witnessed a near lynching myself during a political/union rally in Oaxaca many years ago although I must say Oaxaca teems with tourists.
To: La Enchiladita
Okay....just tuning back into reality and the news. "Obragore"!! I love it!
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posted on
07/03/2006 7:52:39 PM PDT
by
hispanarepublicana
(Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
To: La Enchiladita
Ha! Good one! Obregorons.
To: Heartofsong83
Dang! The blue parts are all the hot vacation spots!
420
posted on
07/03/2006 7:53:58 PM PDT
by
hispanarepublicana
(Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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