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Senate moves fast on tribunals issue
Baltimore Sun ^ | July 1, 2006 | Jill Zuckman

Posted on 07/01/2006 11:52:14 AM PDT by ncountylee

WASHINGTON -- Congress is moving quickly to begin writing legislation to allow the creation of military tribunals, reacting to a Supreme Court decision this week that repudiated the Bush administration's use of such tribunals to try Guantanamo detainees without authorization from Congress.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, said he would introduce legislation on the tribunals after the July Fourth recess, which extends through next week. Minority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, has said he wants to work with the White House on crafting a bill.

And Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, introduced a bill Thursday night, hours after the court's decision, that he said would balance the need for national security with the need for due process.

500 detainees

Not all lawmakers are sure that Congress should write new legislation. Some think civilian courts or courts-martial convened according to military law are sufficient to resolve the cases regarding the nearly 500 detainees held at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba. "We should stay as close as possible to the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the Geneva Convention," said Sen. Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the assistant Democratic leader and a member of the Judiciary Committee.

Durbin said it is not clear whether the military tribunals that the administration created would be able to continue.

"That is going to be the challenge, whether we can create a separate tribunal and meet the guidelines the Supreme Court set," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: congress; genevaconvention; gitmo; militarytribunal; wot; wotconstitution
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1 posted on 07/01/2006 11:52:15 AM PDT by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

The parade of ego's will compete with Independence Day parades.


2 posted on 07/01/2006 11:53:02 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

That SCOTUS ruling may turn out to be a good thing, if it pushes Congress to create an offical, workable process for dealing with those detainees.


3 posted on 07/01/2006 11:54:31 AM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: ncountylee

Durbin reminds me of Daschle..full of it ...hope he
gts the ame fate as Tommike..Hahahahah...Jake


4 posted on 07/01/2006 12:02:48 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: ncountylee

"guidelines that the supreme court set"...The almighty Supreme Court hath spoken..you better obey, you other branches of government!


5 posted on 07/01/2006 12:08:58 PM PDT by Carl LaFong ("Watch out for snakes!")
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To: marsh_of_mists

Would've been nice if some of them had started writing a bill long in advance of this decision such as Judge Advocate General Lindsey Graham.


6 posted on 07/01/2006 12:18:50 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: sanjacjake
"Durbin reminds me of Daschle..full of it ...hope he gts the ame fate as Tommike..Hahahahah...Jake"

Don't hold your breath. He's safe in his seat. At least we know where this socialist is at.

7 posted on 07/01/2006 12:19:02 PM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" – Anonymous)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

If Harry Reid is cooperating I would be afraid, very afraid -- the dems will screw this up just to make some type of political points -- they have no interest to help dubya or the country


8 posted on 07/01/2006 12:22:47 PM PDT by jayadams
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To: jayadams

If they'd started long ago (just a few of them, a private undertaking, or even individual), they could've sprung it on the punks, yes?


9 posted on 07/01/2006 12:25:26 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: ncountylee

The president needs to make a request of Congress while they are on recess. Left to themselves, the senate will probably screw it up. Dems like Durbin and Reid will try to spin this into "an unprecedented power grab by the executive that goes way beyond the findings of the supreme court". The president really doesn't have to ask for all that much, only that he wants Congress to codify the authority he (and the congress) thought he had already been granted.


10 posted on 07/01/2006 12:25:45 PM PDT by vamoose
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To: ncountylee
Hey Dicky, you the Supreme Court and the Congress all ready threw that nonsense out the air lock . That what we WERE doing before you fellow Terrorist lovers on the SC decided to vent their Bush hate by spiting on the US Constitution, the Congress and the Geneva Conventions in their emotional hissy fit this week.
11 posted on 07/01/2006 12:26:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: marsh_of_mists
That SCOTUS ruling may turn out to be a good thing

Except that it will require the US to treat suspected terrorists within the Geneva convention. That will cause lots of headaches in the future.

12 posted on 07/01/2006 12:36:45 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: marsh_of_mists

you are right; if Congress has to vote on the tribunals, it puts the Dems in a great spot right before the election, side with America or side with al Qaida...sound familiar? of course, this will be a tough issue for them.


13 posted on 07/01/2006 12:39:10 PM PDT by votelife (we need 60 conservative senators)
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To: Always Right
I do not know, however it seems that anything that applied to WW II (treason, tribunals, common sense) has left. This was all "undone" (my word) by the USSC interpretations during the 50's through today.

It is nice to have rights ... but applying them in such a broad swath seems to go against the Constitution and the Federalist papers interpretation of the time. Applying them in this manner removes tools and abilities to deal with terrorist, traitors and the like.

I don't think war has changed and we are in a war ... just the enemy and his methods.
14 posted on 07/01/2006 12:43:40 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: ncountylee
Senate moves fast on tribunals issue Baltimore Sun ^ | July 1, 2006 | Jill Zuckman
Congress is moving quickly... Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist...said he would introduce legislation...after the July Fourth recess, which extends through next week.

I don't know who wrote the headline but:
There is nothing in the article to indicate any action, fast or slow, by Congress or the Senate.
There is nothing in the article that indicates Frist's potential action, the only one mentioned other than Specter's, is fast. Well, maybe fast for a politician trying not to offend anyone.
I don't trust anything Specter does so anything he does may be worse than doing nothing.

15 posted on 07/01/2006 12:57:55 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: FreePaul

Arlen Specter is the biggest pantload I have ever seen -- his loyalty to Bush is disgraceful -- especially after dubya went to bat for him in '04 -- he cannot be counted on


16 posted on 07/01/2006 1:21:03 PM PDT by jayadams
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To: ncountylee

Perhaps the bill should include a work release program so that these "innocent bystanders to the war" could do gardening for Teddy Kennedy, light housekeeping for Nancy Pelosi and wash the windows at Hillary's Chapaqua mansion. Certainly some Congressional offices need the floors waxed.


17 posted on 07/01/2006 5:53:18 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: jayadams
...his loyalty to Bush is disgraceful -- especially after dubya went to bat for him in '04...

Tells you something about both of them, doesn't it?

18 posted on 07/01/2006 6:01:38 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: ncountylee
I am just in awe of the senate. Not any movement to impeach the five dictators on the court is there? Spineless pubbies, treasonous Rats. GERRRRR!
19 posted on 07/01/2006 6:36:35 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To all

I guarantee if Bush had gotten a 'Declaration of War'. The USSOC would have had a much harder time coming up with this ruling.
(Yes it would have been an unusual 'Dec of War' since the only sovereign national power involved at the time was the Taliban government of Afghanistan, they could have put in some words about being in a 'state of war' with nations that aid & abet etc.)
Also never underestimate the power of human stupidity !
20 posted on 07/01/2006 6:47:53 PM PDT by Reily
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