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Supreme Court Blocks Guantanamo Bay War-Crimes Trials (SCOTUS rules against President)
Fox News & AP ^ | June 29, 2006

Posted on 06/29/2006 7:11:53 AM PDT by pabianice

Edited on 06/29/2006 7:41:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Breaking...


Update:

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies.

Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the opinion, which said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and Geneva conventions.

The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a body guard and driver for Usama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; chiefjustice; clubgitmo; congress; constitution; cotus; detainees; dta; georgewbush; gitmo; guantanamo; guantanamobay; gwot; hamdan; judicialanarchy; judicialreview; judicialreviewsux; judiciary; president; presidentbush; ruling; scotus; supremecourt; usconstitution; waronterror; wot
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To: veronica

At last, a moment of clarity.


261 posted on 06/29/2006 7:48:45 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: SoFloFreeper

President Washington: "The Court has made its decision. Let them keep the terrorists at their own homes and offices."

262 posted on 06/29/2006 7:48:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: LikeLight
Exactly. People are assuming the MSM has the intelligence to read the decision and the decency to honestly comment on it.
263 posted on 06/29/2006 7:48:56 AM PDT by tioga
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To: bobsunshine
The SCOTUS doesn't say you have to try these enemy combatants a certain way. Also, the SCOTUS is not saying to close Gitmo.

Good points

1) The libs screamed that the detainees needed to be given trials.

2) Bush was willing to give them trials.

264 posted on 06/29/2006 7:49:26 AM PDT by syriacus (Superfunds aren't needed, since ONE WORD from Dems neutralizes lethal chemicals -- "RUST")
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To: tioga

I'm looking forward to this evening's Brit Hume experience. By then it will have some semblance of reality.


265 posted on 06/29/2006 7:49:50 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

This deals a crushing blow to the Nov 2008 mid-terms.



I disagree....I think the majority of the American people are going to be appalled by this decision......it may help the GOP in 06-08


266 posted on 06/29/2006 7:49:58 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: LikeLight

"You mean a crushing blow to Dem hopes of retaking congress I trust?"

No. Dems will claim that this is evidence that Bush and fellow repubs are out of legal control that not even SCOTUS agrees with his actions. trust me.


267 posted on 06/29/2006 7:50:08 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: pbrown
Any ideas if we have Federal Prisons in blue States?
Move em there now. Obviously many of these dirt bags have committed executable crimes. Let's get on with executions. Can't wait to to see the RATS and their SCOTUS enablers squirm when we start frying em.
268 posted on 06/29/2006 7:50:21 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: tioga

Just listening to Fox infobabe trying to explain the decision.......nonsensical.


269 posted on 06/29/2006 7:50:21 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: sarasota

That- and hearing Mark Levin at 6...he'll put this in perspective


270 posted on 06/29/2006 7:50:38 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Pukin Dog

It wouldn't have been my favorite strat, but I think Bush can turn this into a HUGE, HUGE advantage by immediately having the House write a law on this. Make his the ISSUE OF 2006!!


271 posted on 06/29/2006 7:50:53 AM PDT by LS
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To: Velveeta

This opinion is not yet been posted, but you can find decisions here:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/05slipopinion.html

The site has been crashing this morning. Lots of hits.


272 posted on 06/29/2006 7:51:11 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: SE Mom; holdonnow

I'm so glad Mark is back tonight!


273 posted on 06/29/2006 7:51:14 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The right wants victory, the left wants surrender. It's that simple.)
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To: khnyny

However, there's not a darn thing we can do about the supreme court, at least not in any meaningful way. We are stuck with that little oligarcy.
susie


274 posted on 06/29/2006 7:51:28 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
[This deals a crushing blow to the Nov 2008 mid-terms.]

NOT NECESSARILLY. It depends on what happens from here. Do you really think that most Americans are going to be thrilled that Osama Bin Laden's DRIVER won one in the Supreme Court? Get real. If anything, it could be the tipping point to win in 2006/2008. A dem in the White House could release all the prisoners at Gitmo - scary proposition.

It is a Public Relations battle from now on and really could be used as a stroke of genius for the Republicans.
275 posted on 06/29/2006 7:51:29 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: mcvey

--None of this will happen. Even your most die-hard Republicans from your reddest states would be hammered by the MSM and even their local media for any of these actions.--


And these "die hard republicans" should care what the "MSM" says because ...? The "MSM" is already in deep doodoo over the release of the classifed SWIFT financial monitoring program. If they don't have the guts to stand up to press whining, they don't deserve to be in power. But this overlooks a larger point. We conservatives sometimes do not see the forest for the trees. Such is the case here. The forest--or elephant in the living room--that is being ignored is the entire concept of JUDICIAL REVIEW. The US Constitution does not authorize judicial review. Such an authority is nowhere to be found in its text. Marbury v. Madison (1803) is the first time judicial review was invoked by the SCOTUS, and it basically was a constitutional coup d etat by CJ John Marshall. Why Pres. Jefferson did not call Marshalls bluff I will never understand. The Framers would have detested judicial review. It takes power away from the general will of the American people (infallible) and gives it to nine all-to-fallible unelected oligarchs. Judicial review has caused injustice (Plessy, Korematsu, Roe v. Wade, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Kelo) and even war (Dred Scott). Judicial review is a concept which does our conservative movement no good. Our movement is about the PEOPLE and their sovereignty; judicial review only takes that away. There is a great article calling for the abolition of judicial review on townhall.com by a brilliant young political scientist named Ben Shapiro. To put it bluntly, instead of b*tching about this SCOTUS decision or that, or praying that the right justice gets on the bench, we conservatives should push to reverse Marshalls constitutional coup and abolish this odious doctrine once and for all. Let people elected by the people, who swear to uphold the Constitution, decide what is constitutional.


276 posted on 06/29/2006 7:51:36 AM PDT by tee-sixtytwo (Definition of a fiscal conservative--a social liberal who thinks his taxes are too high)
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To: pbrown

I sure hope he has a plan for the "dangerous" ones.


277 posted on 06/29/2006 7:51:38 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: mystery-ak

"I disagree....I think the majority of the American people are going to be appalled by this decision"

One can hope. I truly believe that the mid-term elections are going to be "vetty interesting."


278 posted on 06/29/2006 7:51:47 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: Petronski; Txsleuth; Bahbah
I wish people would keep this in mind.
From now on, no trials. Just hold them.

Or Congress steps in and passes a law concerning this

Which will be interesting to see the Dems defend and fight for the rights of terrorists

279 posted on 06/29/2006 7:52:02 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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To: Fury
I'll say it again: They have ruled that the detainees can't be held because they aren't prisoners of war.../ This would not seem to be the case according to SCOTUSblog: "The Court expressly declared that it was not questioning the government's power to hold Salim Ahmed Hamdan "for the duration of active hostilities" to prevent harm to innocent civilians."

Since this war will be going on for decades, the real fact is that these bums will all die in prison. Not a bad end.

280 posted on 06/29/2006 7:52:13 AM PDT by pabianice
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