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Episcopalians refuse affirmation of Christ
Virtue Online ^ | June 20, 2006 | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 06/21/2006 5:15:34 AM PDT by MountainMenace

COLUMBUS, OHIO (6/20/06)-The House of Deputies of the 75th General Convention of the Episcopal Church today overwhelmingly refused to even consider a resolution that affirmed Jesus Christ as the "only name by which any person may be saved."

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KEYWORDS: apostate; ecusa; episcopal; generalconvention; heresy; nonchristianchurch; postedinwrongforum; religion; religiousleft; salvation
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To: skr

The blind leaders of the blind. They will both fall into a ditch.


301 posted on 06/21/2006 9:06:42 PM PDT by mach1
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To: Veeram

going directly to God


The Word proclaims - No one can come to The Father but through Jesus. Jesus' death cleared the way! We are sons and daughters of The Most High God, we are His children. i.e.,Children go to their father - they don't go to someone else and then that someone else intercedes for that child to his/her father.

How do we pray? "Our Father...." He told us Who to pray to, make confession to - Our Father for HE is Our Source for everything. No man is Our Source.

I agree, we go directly to Our Heavenly Father in Jesus' Name.


302 posted on 06/21/2006 9:08:51 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MountainMenace

Oh dear Lord.


303 posted on 06/21/2006 9:12:23 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: getbillnow

Look folks. Many of us former Episcopalians are very very sad to see a once proud arm of Christendom go down by the liberals desecrating the long held beliefs. It all started ca 70 years ago when the libs took over most of the seminaries. Then followed the ordination of women (which I found OK) but it was done by trickery and a stacked convention. Then they quietly started ordaining homosexuals and then finally consecration of a practicing homosexual to be a bishop. That, of course, invalidated the orders and the church was lost. I cry for a once wonderful denomination. The arrogance that continues now is just the crowning blow. Sad Sad.


304 posted on 06/21/2006 9:14:10 PM PDT by Danrec
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To: meandog
I'm not going to let misguided liberals run me out of my church.

Put on the full armor of God, friend, you're going to need it.

That's the way I feel about my denomination, the PCUSA (Presbyterians). Anybody have any news about their recent national convention? I haven't seen any threads about anything momentous (i.e., controversial) coming out of that body in the last week or so. Sure hope "no news" is good news for the body.

305 posted on 06/21/2006 9:18:31 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: atomicpossum
"My conclusion is that the Episcopalians no longer qualify as a 'Christian' denomination."

They have decided as much.

They have become a pagan social club, and nothing more.

306 posted on 06/21/2006 9:20:45 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: NavyCanDo
"McDowell explained that how one lives his life is the more important issue than whether one affirms Jesus as Lord. To place a statement of belief over actions is the essence of "self-righteousness," he said. "Actions speak louder than proclamations...

How "self-righteous" of God to pretend to have the authority to decide how things are.

307 posted on 06/21/2006 9:23:30 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: meandog
"There's a lot of ambiguity on this fact in the church;"

IOW, there are a lot of people who do not know the Bible.

308 posted on 06/21/2006 9:24:49 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Texas Patriot

How Ironic it is that the Episcopal Church now has to have Missionaries from Africa to straighten them out.


309 posted on 06/21/2006 9:28:10 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: atomicpossum
My conclusion is that the Episcopalians no longer qualify as a 'Christian' denomination.

Lutheranism also.

310 posted on 06/21/2006 9:28:18 PM PDT by Tax Government (Defeat the evil miscreant donkeys and their rhino lackeys.)
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To: OmahaFields
I have never been able to resolve how a bad person can get salvation and go to Heaven while a good, religous person who does not get salvation is denied heaven. At least by those that believe the literal word of the "bible".

The explanation is very easy. The first one, who believed and confessed openly that Jesus Christ was his Lord and Savior, died saved. The second person did not, because he believed the lie that he could get to Heaven by his good deeds alone--in short, making himself his own Savior and his own God (idolatry) and thereby rejecting the free gift of salvation from God through Jesus Christ.

Sitting in a church doesn't make a person a Christian anymore than sitting in a garage makes him a car. There are people--and churches--who profess Christ, but do not possess Christ. They have ritual without righteousness. They want to feel good without making any effort to BE good. It is not that easy to follow Christ--it is almost, but not quite, beyond human capacity.

Still we--his disciples--do our best, because of who HE is and what HE has done, paying a debt we can never repay--which clears the way for an inward, lasting joy right here on earth and the anticipation of knowing we will live with him in paradise when we die.

Christ came to save sinners. He didn't come to spend his time with people who thought themselves already good enough (the Pharisees) and by telling the truth he insulted them and was crucified. He came for you and me. All we have to do, is accept the gift of salvation, invite him in our hearts, live for him and love one another as he loves us. He offers us a divine guarantee and we would be fools not to take him up on his offer.

311 posted on 06/21/2006 9:30:09 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: longtermmemmory
In Dave Shifflett's recent book about the decline of mainstream denominations, he tells the story of Andrew Ferguson (I believe this is the same Andrew Ferguson who once wrote for the Weekly Standard), who was a student at an Episcopal seminary. Anyway, he was told by a fellow student that the reason he (Ferguson) was having problems at the seminary was that he (Ferguson) was the only person who believed in God.

It would be funnier if it weren't so true. I grew up in the Episcopal church. I love its history. I just don't like what it's doing to itself now. It makes me terribly sad.

312 posted on 06/22/2006 5:52:39 AM PDT by kellynch (I am excessively diverted. ~~Jane Austen)
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To: pray4liberty
Christ came to save sinners. He didn't come to spend his time with people who thought themselves already good enough (the Pharisees) and by telling the truth he insulted them and was crucified. He came for you and me.

I don't really consider myself a sinner.

313 posted on 06/22/2006 6:19:37 AM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields

>I don't really consider myself a sinner.<

If their is a God then your opinion matters not.The God of the Bible says we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God.


314 posted on 06/22/2006 6:54:43 AM PDT by Blessed
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To: OmahaFields
I don't really consider myself a sinner.

Could you explain that "really"?

I think you need to give this some serious thought. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." And every sin, every bad action deliberately undertaken, separates us from God, who is all-Good and by His nature excludes ALL sin, not just what we may think of as "serious sin". As C.S. Lewis put into the mouth of Screwtape, murder is not necessary for damnation if cards will do the trick. The most effective road to Hell is the broad, gentle slope without signposts or turnings . . .

315 posted on 06/22/2006 6:58:04 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Blessed
There's an echo in here . . . < g >

What odds we both come up with Romans 3:23?

316 posted on 06/22/2006 6:59:39 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Blessed
If their is a God then your opinion matters not.The God of the Bible says we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God.

Sure my life has not been perfect but when I look at a list of "sins" I do not consider myself a sinner, at least from my religious perspective.

317 posted on 06/22/2006 7:00:26 AM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields
Sure my life has not been perfect but when I look at a list of "sins" I do not consider myself a sinner, at least from my religious perspective.

What list of sins? Or "sins"?

What do you consider, from your religious perspective, to be a "sinner"?

SD

318 posted on 06/22/2006 7:03:18 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: AnAmericanMother
I think you need to give this some serious thought

I have. I don't know your background but I would guess that I have spent more years with more religious backgrounds than you have. My conclusion is that no one 'religion' has a lock on God's will.

319 posted on 06/22/2006 7:04:01 AM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields
Well, even we Catholics (while distinguishing between "mortal" and "venial" sin) agree that a life that is "less than perfect" will keep you out of Heaven without Christ's intervention.

What religious tradition are you?

320 posted on 06/22/2006 7:04:12 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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