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Episcopalians refuse affirmation of Christ
Virtue Online ^ | June 20, 2006 | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 06/21/2006 5:15:34 AM PDT by MountainMenace

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To: OmahaFields
Of course they do. Treating people unkindly is sinful. Do unto others, etc.

Where is the sin? I can still be rude and obey the "do unto others,etc. Does your religion say it is a sin to do unto others?

Maybe you like being treated unkindly? Most people don't. How I treat the least of God's people is the defining characteristic of a Christian. Jesus Himself told us this. (I realize you don't subscribe to all this, just making my point.) It is not OK to avoid murder and theft if you run around treating people like crap.

Are you saying that just because a person is imperfect he has sinned?

Yes. Every person fails to live perfectly without sin or attachment to sin.

If a person makes picks up the wrong fork at a formal dinner he has sinned? Does your church teach that?

That all depends. Did the person violate this social norm out of ignorance or out of a desire to shock and upset?

Show where I might be adding substantial unjustified harm into the world. I cannot see it.

I don't know you well enough to answer that. But if you think your existence is without serious imperfections that affect others, I suggest you go ask your wife. She'll be able to tell you your flaws.

Everyone must accept less than perfection as a goal. It's called being human. We make millions of decisions each day. If we strove for perfection, we would never get out of bed.

Yeah, live by that motto. Winners strive for perfection.

SD

361 posted on 06/22/2006 2:16:38 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: MountainMenace

stick a fork in 'em they're done


362 posted on 06/22/2006 2:17:35 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: jongaltsr
You can pray to soften my heart as much as you want but the Bible is very specific in who is allowed into heaven. Only those that accept God and abide as best they can by his laws.

According to most here, the way to salvation is through Jesus Christ.

363 posted on 06/22/2006 2:42:53 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: SoothingDave
It is not OK to avoid murder and theft if you run around treating people like crap.

If OBL came to your door seeking food and shelter, you would treat him courteously?

I don't know you well enough to answer that. But if you think your existence is without serious imperfections that affect others, I suggest you go ask your wife. She'll be able to tell you your flaws.

... affect others in a harmful and substantial way. She would say I do not.

Yeah, live by that motto. Winners strive for perfection.

Name one that strives for a perfect life? Every "winner" I know of has made compromises and rationalizations in his life.

364 posted on 06/22/2006 2:52:07 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: nanetteclaret

I wonder how many God-fearing souls here have sinned and thus plucked out their eyes and cut off their hands? Or do we just obey the word of God as it is convenient to do so.


365 posted on 06/22/2006 2:58:57 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: MountainMenace
My own conclusion - they want to be the invading hordes of Muslims new bestest friends.

So....they don't believe in the New Testament anymore? Next week they'll announce that the Old Testament doesn't fit their life style either. And the next week, they'll join in with the Muslims in a Bible burning.

I realize I may be stretching here but I find this news astounding. So they are no longer a Christian church?

366 posted on 06/22/2006 3:58:51 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: nanetteclaret

Thanks for the link to that Presbyterian thread. I shudder to think of what else may come out of their current General Assembly.


367 posted on 06/22/2006 7:19:32 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: OmahaFields

Right. But God set the original defination. Christ then clarified the rule.

The original statement from "Statshiu" was that there were many ways to God. There was only one way and that was to accept him (and later) by way of Jesus.

ie. Just being a good person does not get you into heaven.


368 posted on 06/22/2006 7:39:51 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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