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Is the Truth About Masada Less Romantic?
History Network ^ | June 12, 2006 | Kim Stubbs

Posted on 06/12/2006 10:48:30 AM PDT by robowombat

Is the Truth About Masada Less Romantic? By Kim Stubbs

Kim Stubbs is an Australian freelance writer specialising in ancient and early medieval history.

It is the spring of 73 AD and the revolt that has raged in the Roman province of Judea for eight years is about to reach its bloody and tragic conclusion. On an isolated rock overlooking the Dead Sea at the edge of the Judean Desert 967 men, women and children - the last remnants of Jewish resistance to Imperial Rome - await their fate. The spectacular natural redoubt that has become their final refuge is called Masada, from the Hebrew mezuda meaning “fortress” or “stronghold.”

For two years the inhabitants of Masada have waged a successful guerrilla war against the Romans, but now the Roman governor of Judea, Flavius Silva, has arrived with his army. After moving thousands of tons of earth and stone to construct a rampart 375 feet high abutting the western approach to Masada he begins to batter the stronghold’s walls with ballistae and catapult fire. Rather than allow themselves and their families to fall into enemy hands the brave but doomed defenders of Masada choose to commit mass suicide. When the Roman army finally breaks into the stronghold they find only an eerie silence and the bodies of the dead.

This is the version of the Masada story generally accepted today. However at least one Israeli academic, Nachman Ben-Yehuda, 1 suggests that the truth may be somewhat less romantic and heroic.

“When we carefully examine ……. the Great Revolt and Masada, a portrait of heroism …… is simply not provided. On the contrary. The narrative conveys the story of a doomed (and questionable) revolt, of a majestic failure and destruction of the Second Temple and of Jerusalem, of large-scale massacres of the Jews, of different factions of Jews fighting and killing each other, of collective suicide (an act not viewed favourably by the Jewish faith) by a group of terrorists and assassins whose “fighting spirit” may have been questionable.” 2

Understandably views such as these have raised the hackles of many Jewish historians. But is Ben-Yehuda’s interpretation of events correct? How much of the Masada story is history and how much is myth?

There are two major sources we can refer to in order to analyse this question. The first is the only contemporary account of the siege written by the Jewish historian Josephus. The second is the archaeological evidence that was unearthed by the Israeli archaeologist Yigael Yadin during his major excavation of the site between 1963 and 1965.

Both sources agree on the basic storyline. Jewish rebels seized the fortress around 66 BC (by treachery, according to Jospehus 3), and killed the Roman garrison. Josephus tells us that another group of rebels under the leadership of Eleazar ben Yair fled to Masada after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Yadin’s excavations support this period of occupation by way of numerous small finds including scrolls, pottery, weapons, clothes and Jewish coins dating up to the year of the siege. 4

The fact that there was a siege is also beyond doubt – the remains of the Roman circumvallation and siege camp, along with the great ramp Silva had constructed abutting the western approach to Masada, are still visible.

From this point, however, the “facts” are open to interpretation. Were the defenders of Masada a group of religious zealots who fought a heroic but doomed guerrilla war against an overwhelmingly superior adversary? Certainly Josephus’s account does not reflect this view. In fact he shows nothing but contempt for the defenders of the fortress, whom he describes as Sicarii – an extremist group that committed murder in order to obtain their political objectives. They took their name from the “sicae” or small daggers concealed under their cloaks with which they stabbed their opponents - almost exclusively fellow Jews who they perceived as too moderate or openly sympathetic to Roman rule. 5 These Sicarii, Josephus states, “strove with one another in their single capacity, and in their communities, who should run the greatest lengths in impiety towards God and in unjust actions towards their neighbors”.

Nowhere in his account of the Masada siege does Josephus make any reference to the defenders taking the initiative against the Roman army, even though many contemporary versions credit them with waging a guerilla war against the Romans for up to three years. This omission cannot be attributed to pro-Roman bias on Josephus’s part - he includes stories of Jewish attacks against the Romans at both Jerusalem and Machaerus in other parts of his narrative. The most likely reason that there is no mention of attacks being launched against the Romans at Masada is because the defenders never launched any. In fact the only military action of any size that he attributes to them is a raid on the nearby Jewish settlement of Ein-Gedi during which they slaughtered more than 700 of their co-religionists, many of them woman and children. 6

Regarding the conduct of the siege, Josephus tells us that Silva set his army to work moving thousands of tons of earth and stone to construct a rampart 375 high abutting the western approach to Masada. Excavations at the site, however, indicate that Josephus may be mistaken or deliberately misleading on this point as there is an extant spur of rock that the Roman’s used as a foundation for their construction. This meant they only had to add 25 to 30 feet to this natural feature in order to raise the ramp to the level of the fortress’ walls. The time required to complete this engineering feat would have been significantly less than building it from the ground up, which would have a resulting impact on the length of the siege itself. Rather than being a long and heroic resistance, the whole episode may have been over in as little a month.

Josephus is quite specific about how the defenders of Masada met their end. When the Romans had completed their siege works and defeat was inevitable they chose to kill themselves rather than fall into captivity. Each man first executed his own wife and children, then ten men were chosen by lot to kill the survivors. These remaining ten then drew lots to establish which among them would kill the other nine.

Yadin’s excavations uncovered a cluster of eleven small ostraca in front of the palace. Each of these was inscribed with a single name; including one that reads “Ben Yair”. Yadin believed these to be the lots used by the last survivors to decide which of their number would kill the others before ending his own life. However if this is the case it begs the question; why are there eleven names inscribed instead of the ten specified by Jospehus?

Having dispatched his compatriots the sole survivor is stated to have set fire to the fortress - with the exception of the well supplied store houses that, according to Josephus, were left intact to show the Romans that the defenders had not been “subdued for want of necessaries”. 7 This appears to contradict the archaeological evidence. When the storerooms were excavated the original floor was covered with a thick layer of ash indicating that they were also put to the torch.

Josephus was specific about the number of people besieged at Masada – 967 men, women and children. He also states that with the exception of two women and five children who hid themselves in the caverns beneath the citadel that they all perished. He is equally specific about where they died; the royal palace. Yadin’s excavations uncovered the remains of only 28 people, however, and of these only three were discovered under the debris of the palace. The remainder were discovered in a cave at the base of the cliff.

Yadin proposed that the remains were those of Masada’s defenders, and went so far as to state that the three skeletons found in the palace “undoubtedly represent the remains of an important commander of Masada and his family”. He even went so far as to suggest that the man might have been the last warrior who, having killed his comrades, committed suicide next to the bodies of his wife and child. 8 This interpretation appears to have been based solely on the fact that some armour was found near the remains. The theory was further weakened by one of Yadin’s own team, an anthropologist, who estimated the man’s age as between 20 and 22, the woman’s between 17 and 18, and the child’s about 11 or 12 years old at the time of death. If these estimations are correct the grouping could not possibly constitute a nuclear family. 9 The whereabouts of the remaining 932 bodies remains a mystery.

Josephus makes no mention of the 25 bodies in the cave so their origin is open to conjecture. Were they, as Shaye Cohen 10 believes, the “remains of Jews who attempted to hide from the Romans but were discovered and killed” (which contradicts the popularly held belief that the entire population of Masada willingly committed mass suicide), or are they the bodies of Christians who inhabited Masada during Byzantine times as some scholars have suggested?

Joseph Zias of Jerusalem’s Rockefeller Museum has yet another theory. After carbon dating samples of textiles found with the remains indicated that they appeared to be contemporaneous with the period of the Revolt, he postulated that they could in fact be of Roman origin. Yadin admitted in 1982 that he had found pig bones alongside the remains – a highly unlikely combination if they were indeed those of zealous Jews to whom the pig is an unclean animal. But Zias notes that Romans sacrificed pigs at burials. Fourteen of the skeletons were adult males, 6 of whom were described as between 35-50, powerfully built and of a “distinctively different physical type from the rest”. 12 Could these be the remains of members of the Legion Tenth Fretensis who conducted the siege of Masada and occupied it after its recapture? 11 As one of the emblems of this legion was the boar this would be a quite reasonable interpretation.

A government committee overruled Yadin’s suggestion that all these remains be interred in the cave where they were found. Instead they were buried at Masada with full military honours on July 7, 1969.

There are many apparent anomalies in the Masada story, and many of these can be traced to Yigael Yadin and his interpretation of the archaeological remains. Although a revered figure in Israel, he has been accused of interpreting his finds to fit with the heroic mythos of Masada. As to his motives for doing this, Ben-Yehuda suggests “nationalistic, ideological motivation played a very major part in the decision to excavate Masada”. 12 He also argues that a nation needs myths to help it “shape a central process of nation and state-building….to shape identities and create cohesion by fostering a strong sense of a shared past”. 13 This is particularly true of Israel at the time of Yadin’s dig. Less than two decades old and surrounded on all sides by enemies dedicated to her destruction, Israel needed “a new type of Jew, somebody that was willing to fight and die for his own country”. 14 Yadin interpreted the events at Masada in a way that provided the requisite role model.

Wherever the truth lies, the Masada story still resonates strongly today both as an enduring symbol of the Jewish state’s struggle for existence and of human courage in the face of insurmountable opposition. In December 2001 UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee inscribed the Masada site on the World Heritage List stating that it was:

“…a symbol of the ancient Jewish Kingdom of Israel, of its violent destruction in the later 1st century CE, and of the subsequent Diaspora.

”The tragic events during the last days of the Jewish refugees who occupied the fortress and palace of Masada make it a symbol both of Jewish cultural identity and, more universally, of the continuing human struggle between oppression and liberty.”

Bibliography The Jewish war – Flavius Josephus

Sacrificing Truth: Archaeology and the Masada Myth – Nachman Ben-Yehuda, Prometheus Books, 2002

Apocalypse – The Great Jewish Revolt Against Rome, Neil Faulkner, Tempus Publishing, UK, 2002

Masada : Cave 2001/2002 – Dr James D Tabor

Flavius Josephus Eyewitness to Rome’s First-Century Conquest of Judea – Mireille Hadas-Lebel

Masada – The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs Website

Masada ; Literary Tradition, Archaeological Remains and the Credibility of Jospehus – Shaye Cohen

Masada Martyrs – Haim Watzman, Archaeological Institute of America – Volume 50 Number 6, November/December 1997

Israeli Icon Under Fire, Chronicle of Higher Education Dec 6, 2002 – Richard Monastersky

UNESCO World Heritage Committee Meeting Minutes, Dec 2001

1 Dean of the Faculty of Sociology at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and author of “The Masada Myth: Collective Memory and Mythmaking in Israel”

2 The Masada Myth – Nachman Ben-Yehuda

3 The Wars of the Jews, Book II, Chapter 17 - Josephus

4 Israeli Icon Under Fire – Richard Monastersky

5 Jewish Encyclopedia – entry by Richard Gottheil and Samuel Kraus

6 Jewish War 4:401-4 - Jospehus

7 Josephus

8 Israeli Icon Under Fire, Richard Monastersky

9 Israeli Icon Under Fire, Richard Monastersky

10 Masada; Literary Tradition, Archaeological Remains and the Credibility of Josephus

12 Masada Cave 2001/2002 – James D Tabor

11 Masada Martyrs – Haim Watzman, Archaeological Institute of America

12 Interview of Nachman Ben-Yehuda moderated by Richard Monastersky, Chronicle of Higher Education

13 Sacrificing Truth: Archaeology and the Masada Myth – Nachman Ben-Yehuda

14 Israeli Icon Under Fire, Richard Monastersky


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To: robowombat

The traditional Jewish history of Masada is not 'romantic'. I may be unaware of what the socialist establishment of Israel has been teaching about Masada though.

The3 traditional telling of the Masada can be found at

http://www.aish.com/literacy/jewishhistory/Crash_Course_in_Jewish_History_Part_35_-_Destruction_of_the_Temple.asp

but one might start at

http://www.aish.com/literacy/jewishhistory/Crash_Course_in_Jewish_History_Part_33_-_The_Great_Revolt.asp

where the 'Zealots' in question are described:

"The Zealots. They were comprised of several different groups of nationalistic extremists. They were incensed at the Roman presence and were angry with other Jews whom they saw as actively or tacitly cooperating with the Romans."

"The Sicarii (meaning "dagger.") This was the criminal element often masquerading under the guise of nationalism. They sided with the Zealots."


41 posted on 06/12/2006 4:13:48 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: SunkenCiv

ggg ping


42 posted on 06/12/2006 4:13:51 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 79-82)
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To: Alouette

ok THANKS.


43 posted on 06/12/2006 4:14:49 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: silverleaf; Alouette

Color me saddened by the Jewish reation to commit suicide rather than to be taken prisoner. I really thought it was against their religion. Was there mass suicides during the holocaust?


44 posted on 06/12/2006 4:33:57 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I'll bet just about everything about ancient and midieval history is less romantic than it might seem.
Even the romantic stuff.

No kidding. At the very least life was quite uncomfortable. (ever wear raw wool?) At worse it was down right nasty.

45 posted on 06/12/2006 4:36:59 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The bottom 60% does 40% of the work, the top 40% does 60% of the work. Just who are the "workers"?)
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To: Suzy Quzy

There is some debate over whether the Jews at Masada fought the Romans to the death or committed a mass suicide. Could be some of both. It took 11,000 Roman soldiers three years to defeat the 900 Jews (including women and children) who were holed up in Masada. I have been at Masada before and it is fascinating. Apparently, some Jews were able to very carefully sneak down at night and bring back food and supplies. Water was stored in cisterns in the fort. Eventually the Romans built a siege tower and were able to overrun Masada.


46 posted on 06/12/2006 4:49:36 PM PDT by Fish_Keeper
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Raw wool!! LOL!!!!! No WONDER they committed suicide if they had to wear raw wool!!!


47 posted on 06/12/2006 4:51:40 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: silverleaf

What do you think about this author saying they don't know where the other 932 bodies are!! I cannot believe that...they would have to have counted the bodies hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Is this guy smoking weed?


48 posted on 06/12/2006 4:54:29 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Not comfortable.

But it keeps you warm and dry and that is what clothing is for.

49 posted on 06/12/2006 5:08:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The bottom 60% does 40% of the work, the top 40% does 60% of the work. Just who are the "workers"?)
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To: garbageseeker

Yes, there are cisterns up there. Originally the fortress was built by King Herod. There is also a Roman-style bath house there --- A building with tiled tubs built above a furnace room where wood was burned to heat up the water.


50 posted on 06/12/2006 5:08:22 PM PDT by Fish_Keeper
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To: robowombat

Looks like the ramp WAS built on a natural feature that would make it much easier (and faster) to build.

51 posted on 06/12/2006 5:11:25 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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52 posted on 06/12/2006 5:19:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (All Moslems everywhere advocate murder, including mass murder, and they do it all the time.)
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A few years back the ramp was shown to be mostly a natural formation, which explains why its remains seem to persist. The Romans did build a structure on top of the natural formation.


53 posted on 06/12/2006 5:21:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (All Moslems everywhere advocate murder, including mass murder, and they do it all the time.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Color me saddened by the Jewish reation to commit suicide rather than to be taken prisoner. I really thought it was against their religion. Was there mass suicides during the holocaust?

Fortunately we don't face these decisions often. Suicide would probably be a legitimate option when confronted with the certainty of idolitry, forbidden sexual relations, or the commission of murder. In the Masada case, I'd guess the first two would be certainties, in the case of the Holocaust, none.

54 posted on 06/12/2006 5:22:35 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Well, pretty much the authoritative basis they have for the story of the whole Masada siege is Josephus. Finding evidence of bodies after 2000 years would be tough, but the desert does preserve things.

I think there is much archeology still to be done to uncover more clues confirming (or raising questions about) Josephus' account. Finding the 11 "markers" with names does seem to confirm a key component of the story, the final lottery of men to see who would kill the final survivors and then himself. Technically there was only one suicide at Masada ... the last swordsman standing.


55 posted on 06/12/2006 5:31:38 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I'll bet just about everything about ancient and midieval history is less romantic than it might seem.

I doubt it. Truth is stranger than fiction. Imagine all the incredible (and horrific and disturbing &c) things that have been hushed up over the millenia.

56 posted on 06/12/2006 6:32:37 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: tet68
"Not much different really, than some americans."

Exactly. The American left certainly fits the bill. They hate America!

57 posted on 06/12/2006 7:16:41 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo (+++ DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS +++)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Mass suicide could be understandable when you consider that the Romans would have raped the women, probably killed the men, and then enslaved the women and children, which would have been a death sentence, since the Romans basically worked their slaves to death (re-watch Spartacus). The defenders of Masada chose their own type of death.


58 posted on 06/12/2006 7:16:46 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Raycpa

"My guess is the real underlying purpose is to discredit Josephus because he substantiates Jesus."

Well, he substantiates Jesus a little bit, in the sense that he certainly describes the man as having lived and been executed, and continuing to have followers, yes.

The part of Josephus that reads of Jesus "He was the Messiah" and states that he was raised "on the third day" is almost certainly a gloss added by the later Christian scribes who preserved the text.

How can we be pretty sure about that?

Two things, one less persuasive, and the other more persuasive.

The less persuasive thing is that ancient manuscripts of Josephus preserved in Arab lands don't contain the Messiah and resurrection references, but do contain the rest of the stuff about Jesus having been lived, taught, done some marvels, executed, and still having followers. The key bits about Jesus having been the Messiah and raised "On The Third Day" (without any explanation of what "The Third Day" means) aren't there. But one could easily argue that Muslim scribes deleted that stuff.

By far the most persuasive thing is Josephus himself. Josephus' Jewish Antiquities, in which the reference to Jesus and James and John the Baptist are included, is a MASSIVE work. Josephus himself was a priest of the Temple and had been a Jewish general in the Galilee fighting against the Romans in the revolt before his capture. He knew his Jewish history, and he knew all of the intimate rites of the Temple, and all of the legends and traditions of the Jews. And Josephus is extremely pedantic. He's well aware of being extremely well educated and brilliant, and he flaunts it. Every detail that he knows about everything, he gives...in extenso. When one considers that his Jewish Antiquities start with Adam and Eve, and give the priestly legends and midrash concerning the ENTIRETY of biblical history as well as contemporary history, one realizes just how pedantic and detail-oriented Josephus was. Lost in that sea of verbiage - it's an utterly massive work - is the reference to Jesus. There is simply no way at all, if Josephus ben Matthias, really thought that Jesus was THE MESSIAH, that he would give Jesus three sentences, and give Jesus' brother James about thrice the commentary. If Jesus were the Messiah, or even if Josephus believed he had been resurrected, we can only expect that Josephus would have gone on for pages and pages and pages, bleeding ink out of every pore, with every detail of the man's life...and the life of his parents, grandparents and great-grandparents all the way back to Adam and Eve. That's the way Josephus treats every OTHER major figure in his Jewish Antiquities.

It's just not POSSIBLE that this priest of the Temple and pedant extraordinaire would flippantly devote three sentences to a man he said was RESURRECTED AND THE MESSIAH! That's not how Josephus wrote ANYTHING, and to MERELY bury three sentences about the echatological denoument of Jewish belief, AND a resurrection miracle to boot? No. That's impossible. That's just not Josephus. I've read most of the stuff he wrote. It's interesting, because it is like a time capsule of what the Jewish priests of the Temple, before the Talmud and the rabinnical tradition was established, believed and did. It gives us all those details that we know about the inner workings of the First Century in the Middle East and before. It's because of Josephus that we know more, in greater detail, about practically every aspect of 1st Century Judaea than we do about any other spot on the planet in the First Century, including Rome proper. He was that comprehensive and that pedantic.

It's IMPOSSIBLE that had Jesus existed and started a cult, that he wouldn't appear in Josephus. And sure enough, Jesus DOES appear in Josephus. So we know that the man really did live, and really had a following and really was executed. He wasn't a legend. But Josephus being Josephus, we can also tell that the bit in our translations of Josephus about Jesus being "The Messiah" and being raised from the dead "on the third day" were not written by Josephus. Read him, and you know that there is absolutely, positively no way at all that he would have let pass THE MESSIAH and a RESURRECTION with anything less than about three chapters. One sentence? Not possible. Not for Josephus. Further, the bit about "On The Third Day" is cryptic. Josephus was writing for a Greek and Roman audience who knew little about Judaism and nothing whatever about Christianity. "On the Third Day" is a Christian prayer formula, from the Nicene Creed, which dates from about 220 years after Josephus wrote. Beyond that, just sitting there along "On The Third Day" is opaque. On the third day after WHAT? Josephus never writes like that. He would tell us the third day after the crucifixion, describe the crucifixion, the second day and the third day, tell us what the weather was like, and tell us who Pontius Pilate had for dinner each night (I am only slightly exaggerating).

I guess it's not really fair to anybody for me to write all this without giving the entire "Testimonium Flavianus", the whole "Testimony of Josephus" about Jesus.

First I'll give what Josephus says about Jesus in the texts we have. Then I'll give what he probably really did say about Jesus, based on Josephus' style in the rest of his thousands of pages of history, and based on what's in the Arabic manuscript:

From Jewish Antiquities, at 18:3:3

"Now there arose about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was the Messiah. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again on the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day."

What Josephus probably wrote:
"Now there arose about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day."


59 posted on 06/12/2006 7:51:48 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Paris vaut bien une messe.)
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probably dead links, I didn't check:
Masada Ramp Was Not a Roman Engineering Miracle
by Dan Gill
Biblical Archaeology Review
We cannot use Josephus's description to reconstruct the layout and dimensions of the ramp. First, the heights given by him for the ramp (200 cubits, or 300 feet), the stone platform at the top of the ramp (50 cubits, or 75 feet) and the siege tower (60 cubits, or 90 feet) are wrong. Josephus's figures add up to 310 cubits (465 feet), while the actual difference in height between the top of Masada's defensive wall and the base of the spur is only 315 feet. Also, at the top of the spur there is not enough room for a 75-foot-wide platform, as Josephus claims, and no remains of large masonry blocks, of which the platform was allegedly built, can be found nearby. It is more reasonable to assume, as already suggested by Lammerer, that the installations on the spur included only a ramp and a tower, without a stone platform.
Masada wheel may be from Roman tower
by Arieh O'Sullivan
Jerusalem Post
Archeologists at Masada have uncovered a solid wooden wheel dating from the Great Jewish Revolt exactly at the spot where Roman war machines broke through nearly 2,000 years ago. Led by Hebrew University archeologist Prof. Ehud Netzer, the team at first uncovered Byzantine ruins. While officials were hesitant to say if the find was part of the ironclad Roman siege tower rolled up a ramp to breach the fortress wall, the discovery raised excitement among archeologists and park officials, who see it as rare piece of solid evidence that further confirms the story of the ancient mountaintop fortress. According to the historian Josephus, the Romans built a gigantic assault ramp up the side of the mountain. On top of this a siege tower, covered in iron, was erected from which the Romans planned to attack the Jews holding out on the mountaintop.

60 posted on 06/12/2006 11:29:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (All Moslems everywhere advocate murder, including mass murder, and they do it all the time.)
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