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To: nickcarraway
Good old law of supply and demand. If the demand goes up, and engineers are needed; artificially increase the supply to keep the company profits high, and the engineer's salary low.

I'm 46, and there just aren't a whole lot of engineers my age or much older out there anymore. Why? Because we are sick to death of being 'out-sourced', 'laid-off' and simply pushed aside. My coworkers have opened McDonald's, Subway and Quiz-nos restaurants; others have gone back to farm, while others have simply gone to school to be a trucker. Frankly, I'm looking at doing the same darn thing.

I busted my behind to get a degree; working full time while attending college for more years than I care to think about. I've been laid off 4x in the past 10 years. It used to be an indication of incompetent management when a company laid off their employees; now it's status quo.

So, now we have a situation at some companies where we hire 15,000 Indians in Bangalore, so we can lay off 500 engineers in the USA - all in the name of 'Globalization'. We ship jobs to China, India and Malaysia; and these countries aren't even our allies. We are training and educating the very people who will eventually be our superiors. Why? Because their culture understands what hard work and perseverance will get; while our culture punishes hard work, and rewards mediocrity.
6 posted on 06/03/2006 9:26:38 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Hodar
while our culture punishes hard work, and rewards mediocrity.

That's definitely an important point. We believe in capitalism and merit, so we shouldn't complain if we fail to do what it takes to succeed. We need to have a culture that promotes hard work, education, not settling for mediocrity, etc. We live in the U.S., we have every advantage, we shouldn't waste that.

7 posted on 06/03/2006 9:34:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Hodar

And I just got finished giving my son a "talk" about choosing a career that will earn him a good pay. I told him Engineering was the career to aim for. Do you think that's not true anymore?


8 posted on 06/03/2006 9:48:33 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: Hodar
"while our culture punishes hard work, and rewards mediocrity."

I couldn't agree more! You are absolutely right.

13 posted on 06/03/2006 10:07:05 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Hodar

Engineering professional societies need to be a proactive as the AMA is in preventing doctors from other countries from realizing credentials in this country and also to limit the number of engineers graduating from US universities.


21 posted on 06/03/2006 11:44:35 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Hodar

That's right, it's all about Globalization, import labor from India, would an American want to live and work in India? That's what globalization is anyone can work and live in any country isn't it?


24 posted on 06/04/2006 3:54:18 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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