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BIG BANG IN ANTARCTICA -- KILLER CRATER FOUND UNDER ICE
Ohio State University ^ | 01 June 2006 | Staff (press release)

Posted on 06/01/2006 2:26:58 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

Ancient mega-catastrophe paved way for the dinosaurs, spawned Australian continent.

Planetary scientists have found evidence of a meteor impact much larger and earlier than the one that killed the dinosaurs -- an impact that they believe caused the biggest mass extinction in Earth's history.

The 300-mile-wide crater lies hidden more than a mile beneath the East Antarctic Ice Sheet. And the gravity measurements that reveal its existence suggest that it could date back about 250 million years -- the time of the Permian-Triassic extinction, when almost all animal life on Earth died out.

Its size and location -- in the Wilkes Land region of East Antarctica, south of Australia -- also suggest that it could have begun the breakup of the Gondwana supercontinent by creating the tectonic rift that pushed Australia northward.

Scientists believe that the Permian-Triassic extinction paved the way for the dinosaurs to rise to prominence. The Wilkes Land crater is more than twice the size of the Chicxulub crater in the Yucatan peninsula, which marks the impact that may have ultimately killed the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. The Chicxulub meteor is thought to have been 6 miles wide, while the Wilkes Land meteor could have been up to 30 miles wide -- four or five times wider.

"This Wilkes Land impact is much bigger than the impact that killed the dinosaurs, and probably would have caused catastrophic damage at the time," said Ralph von Frese, a professor of geological sciences at Ohio State University.

He and Laramie Potts, a postdoctoral researcher in geological sciences, led the team that discovered the crater. They collaborated with other Ohio State and NASA scientists, as well as international partners from Russia and Korea. They reported their preliminary results in a recent poster session at the American Geophysical Union Joint Assembly meeting in Baltimore.

The scientists used gravity fluctuations measured by NASA's GRACE satellites to peer beneath Antarctica's icy surface, and found a 200-mile-wide plug of mantle material -- a mass concentration, or "mascon" in geological parlance -- that had risen up into the Earth's crust.

Mascons are the planetary equivalent of a bump on the head. They form where large objects slam into a planet's surface. Upon impact, the denser mantle layer bounces up into the overlying crust, which holds it in place beneath the crater.

When the scientists overlaid their gravity image with airborne radar images of the ground beneath the ice, they found the mascon perfectly centered inside a circular ridge some 300 miles wide -- a crater easily large enough to hold the state of Ohio.

Taken alone, the ridge structure wouldn't prove anything. But to von Frese, the addition of the mascon means "impact." Years of studying similar impacts on the moon have honed his ability to find them.

"If I saw this same mascon signal on the moon, I'd expect to see a crater around it," he said. "And when we looked at the ice-probing airborne radar, there it was."

"There are at least 20 impact craters this size or larger on the moon, so it is not surprising to find one here," he continued. "The active geology of the Earth likely scrubbed its surface clean of many more."

He and Potts admitted that such signals are open to interpretation. Even with radar and gravity measurements, scientists are only just beginning to understand what's happening inside the planet. Still, von Frese said that the circumstances of the radar and mascon signals support their interpretation.

"We compared two completely different data sets taken under different conditions, and they matched up," he said.

To estimate when the impact took place, the scientists took a clue from the fact that the mascon is still visible.

"On the moon, you can look at craters, and the mascons are still there," von Frese said. "But on Earth, it's unusual to find mascons, because the planet is geologically active. The interior eventually recovers and the mascon goes away." He cited the very large and much older Vredefort crater in South Africa that must have once had a mascon, but no evidence of it can be seen now.

"Based on what we know about the geologic history of the region, this Wilkes Land mascon formed recently by geologic standards -- probably about 250 million years ago," he said. "In another half a billion years, the Wilkes Land mascon will probably disappear, too."

Approximately 100 million years ago, Australia split from the ancient Gondwana supercontinent and began drifting north, pushed away by the expansion of a rift valley into the eastern Indian Ocean. The rift cuts directly through the crater, so the impact may have helped the rift to form, von Frese said.

But the more immediate effects of the impact would have devastated life on Earth.

"All the environmental changes that would have resulted from the impact would have created a highly caustic environment that was really hard to endure. So it makes sense that a lot of life went extinct at that time," he said.

He and Potts would like to go to Antarctica to confirm the finding. The best evidence would come from the rocks within the crater. Since the cost of drilling through more than a mile of ice to reach these rocks directly is prohibitive, they want to hunt for them at the base of the ice along the coast where the ice streams are pushing scoured rock into the sea. Airborne gravity and magnetic surveys would also be very useful for testing their interpretation of the satellite data, they said.

NSF and NASA funded this work. Collaborators included Stuart Wells and Orlando Hernandez, graduate students in geological sciences at Ohio State; Luis Gaya-Piqué and Hyung Rae Kim, both of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center; Alexander Golynsky of the All-Russia Research Institute for Geology and Mineral Resources of the World Ocean; and Jeong Woo Kim and Jong Sun Hwang, both of Sejong University in Korea.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antarctic; antarctica; bolide; canopy; catastrophism; chicxulub; creation; crevolist; deccantraps; evolution; extinction; godsgravesglyphs; greatdying; impact; impactcraters; lakevostok; massextinction; meteor; meteorimpact; ohsomysteriouso; permian; ptextinction; russia; stalactites; stalagmites; thegreatdying; velaincident; velikovsky
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I enjoyed reading Worlds in Collision years ago.


81 posted on 06/01/2006 6:15:29 PM PDT by bwteim (Save the USA: find jobs for RINOS in Mexico. No borders = no country.)
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To: stands2reason
Do scientists have a theory on what spurred the Cambrian explostion?

Pre-Cambrian life was unicellular. There was no need for an extinction event as the ecological niches were unfilled.

Here's a link you might like Eons of Earth Geological History

Cmabrian explosion

I normally do not care for Wikipedia but it seems to be fairly accurate on the pure sciences.

82 posted on 06/01/2006 6:16:39 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The social contract is breaking down.)
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To: bwteim
Me too. He was really thought of as a kook and a fool for decades by (ahem) serious scientists. I guess laughing last is best.
83 posted on 06/01/2006 6:20:30 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Wisdom of the Leftist Tao, No.379: Women are men, men are children and children are adults.)
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To: bwteim

You might like to track down this: http://www.knowledge.co.uk/velikovsky/earth.htm


84 posted on 06/01/2006 6:22:58 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Wisdom of the Leftist Tao, No.379: Women are men, men are children and children are adults.)
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To: TXnMA
Anyone else wondering about the article's' mentioning the crater's diameter as both "30 miles" and "300 miles" -- in multiple paragraphs...?

I read that as the 30 mile wide inpactor left a 300 mile wide hole.

85 posted on 06/01/2006 6:23:55 PM PDT by null and void (Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, a sense of humor is just common sense, dancing)
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To: xJones; Ruddles
The shoggoth survived the impact, but it had to assume an unusually large form to disguise its bulk from human eyes;)


86 posted on 06/01/2006 6:24:10 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: WoofDog123; Centurion2000
30 miles wide. Kinda explains why 95% of life died out. ~ Centurion2000

that must have had an exponentially greater climate impact than the C-T (alvarez) impact. ~ WoofDog123

We have two data points:

6 mile Ø bolide=65% wipe out
30 mile wide bolide=95% wipe out

We can now draw a line...

87 posted on 06/01/2006 6:30:46 PM PDT by null and void (Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, a sense of humor is just common sense, dancing)
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To: PatrickHenry

"Everybody be nice."

Okay. I think it's nice they found the
former site of Michael Moore's outhouse.


88 posted on 06/01/2006 6:33:59 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: PatrickHenry
"Fascinating."


89 posted on 06/01/2006 6:35:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Capital Mr Jeeves! I can hear Fat Boy calling out the stations as of a thousand open graves of Danforth.."Kendal!
Central! HAAAAAAAVAAAAAAHD!!!!


90 posted on 06/01/2006 6:35:44 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Centurion2000

Mud Puppies turning their lives around!


91 posted on 06/01/2006 6:38:53 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: null and void

The problem is that you are trying to graph something that has exponential yield increases with linear size increases. Looks like a good science project in the making


92 posted on 06/01/2006 6:43:07 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The social contract is breaking down.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

"He was really thought of as a kook and a fool for decades by (ahem) serious scientists."

He WAS a kook and a fool.


93 posted on 06/01/2006 6:44:42 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: Centurion2000
It's something of an Engineer Joke. Two points make a line.

(Engineering managers can do it with one point)...

94 posted on 06/01/2006 6:44:53 PM PDT by null and void (Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, a sense of humor is just common sense, dancing)
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To: xJones

That's my tattoo! "Determined to Ruin!" Not sure if I had that done on the Plains of Yith, or a funny little shop on the outskirts of Salem, NH, but in the scheme of things, no matter.


95 posted on 06/01/2006 6:45:03 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Centurion2000
Uh, actually it flattens out.

More logarithmic looking.

(I cheated, I used the third data point: 0 mile Ø bolide=0% wipe out)

96 posted on 06/01/2006 6:49:14 PM PDT by null and void (Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, a sense of humor is just common sense, dancing)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Thanks for your link in #84 below (I am psychic...;) )

Some scientists tried to supress the publication of Worlds in the 50s and many dissed his works ever since. He was vindicated to some degree in terms of the chaotic nature and rapidity of cosmological change. He was brilliant in many areas. I read Worlds in Collision in high school and compared to my textbooks, the books were a flight of fantasy and possibilities.


97 posted on 06/01/2006 6:50:03 PM PDT by bwteim (Save the USA: find jobs for RINOS in Mexico. No borders = no country.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; WorkingClassFilth

"He WAS a kook and a fool."

Well, gee, golly, I guess you and I need to move on and get a life, WorkingClassFilth.


98 posted on 06/01/2006 7:13:48 PM PDT by bwteim (Save the USA: find jobs for RINOS in Mexico. No borders = no country.)
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To: All
I can't resist posting this:



The scientific case against Craterism

1. Meteor craters have not been observed to happen, now or in the past.
2. Meteor craters have never been reproduced in the lab, and are thus not scientific.
3. Thomas Jefferson said: "Gentlemen, I would rather believe that two Yankee professors would lie than believe that stones fall from heaven."
4. The odds against a random rock falling from the sky, striking the earth, and making a crater are astronomical.
5. The second law of thermodynamics prohibits meteor craters.
6. Meteor craters are not mentioned in the bible, nor are "rocks from the sky."
7. Craterism is a product of materialism and a Godless, naturalistic worldview.
8. Belief that rocks can fall from the sky promotes hedonism and amoral, animalistic behavior.
9. Craterism makes no predictions and is untestable; it is therefore not scientific.
10. Craterists can produce micro-craters, but have no evidence of macro-cratering.
11. Aristotle didn't believe in Craterism. Nor did Galileo, Newton, or Einstein.
12. Einstein even said: "God does not play dice!" Are you smarter than Einstein?
13. Scientists are abandoning craterism because they know it is not supported by evidence.
14. Anyone who thinks there are rocks in the sky has rocks in his head.
15. It takes more faith to believe in Craterism than it does to believe in the Tooth Fairy.
16. More and more scientists are turning to "Intelligent Crater" theory (IC). Craterism is a theory in crisis!

99 posted on 06/01/2006 7:17:34 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: bwteim

"Well, gee, golly, I guess you and I need to move on and get a life, WorkingClassFilth."

Perhaps.


100 posted on 06/01/2006 7:19:56 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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