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If it's not too much of a bother, any feedback ya'll would feel like offering would be much appreciated.

P.S. -- I put this in 'News/Activism' cuz I thought it seemed related to Activism. If it belongs somewhere else, Modz, please correct my error.

Thanks!

1 posted on 05/31/2006 1:32:24 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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I've never considered there to be 2 types. A conservative is fiscally and socially conservative, if not they are not conservative.


2 posted on 05/31/2006 1:34:46 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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I'm a political conservative and social libertarian, myself... both stem from the same root, keeping the damned government out of peoples' wallets and homes and businesses and schools and any other place except where it is absolutely necessary.


3 posted on 05/31/2006 1:35:57 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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It's kinda' like the way it was with our forefathers when they arrived here. It is a mix between the two. It became that way when the "politcal" forces in England began to tread on the "social" aspect of their lives and they wanted something a lot less intrusive.


5 posted on 05/31/2006 1:36:34 PM PDT by capt. norm (Ben Franklin: "Does thou love life? Then do not squander time; for that's the stuff life is made of")
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I don't separate the two. The personal is the political is the personal.


6 posted on 05/31/2006 1:36:56 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Seems a bit too simplistic. It's not nearly as clear a division as that.


7 posted on 05/31/2006 1:36:56 PM PDT by aliquis
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conservatism: it's a life style.


8 posted on 05/31/2006 1:38:07 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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I am a complete conservative, the government should stay the hell out of my life and my wallet!


9 posted on 05/31/2006 1:38:25 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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I am both.


10 posted on 05/31/2006 1:39:00 PM PDT by conservative physics
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From reading the homepage and what FR is all about, I would assume most are socially and fiscally conservative.

I know I am.

11 posted on 05/31/2006 1:40:25 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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What about both? Put me in the both category. They are more related than most people think.


12 posted on 05/31/2006 1:40:59 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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I'm both.


14 posted on 05/31/2006 1:41:42 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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Conservative

- Defense primary purpose of Federal government

- Balance the budget

- Eliminate the deficet unless economically unwise (can't imagine why)

- Either Flat Tax or Fair Tax

- Eliminate the Dept of Education

- Phase out Social Security, go to private accounts

- Constitutional Amendment to outlaw abortion

- Constitutional Amendment to outlaw gay marriage

- Secure the borders

- Allow controlled legal immigration

I'm guess I'm conservative on both.


15 posted on 05/31/2006 1:42:18 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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Also there are Nat'l security conservatives.


16 posted on 05/31/2006 1:44:47 PM PDT by loreldan (Without coffee I am nothing.)
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I have a hard time equating the word "conservative" with the word "careful"... It's a synonym, but philosophically speaking (which is what we're doing) conservatives are strong rather than careful. We prefer positions of strength when it comes to defense, foreign relations, etc.

Strictly speaking, conservative as a political description means "disposed to preserving existing institutions and conditions". We are that, too.

You could also include "intellectual conservatism" as the third movement. An intellectual conservative is someone who uses facts, rather than emotion, as intellectual currency in a debate. Opinions, philosophy, political and social ideals... all follow factual evidence. As most of us at FR uphold reason over emotion, I suppose we're all intellectual conservatives of one stripe or another.


17 posted on 05/31/2006 1:45:33 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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John Derbyshire wrote a piece in National Review last year called Twilight of Conservatism and, in it, he referenced John Micklethwait's and Adrian Wooldridge's book The Right Nation, and he notes that, in the book, Micklethwait and Wooldridge list the six fundamentals of classical, Burkean, Anglo-Saxon conservatism:

a deep suspicion of the power of the state.

a preference for liberty over equality.

patriotism.

a belief in established institutions and hierarchies.

skepticism about the idea of progress.

elitism.

Debyshire notes that American conservatism has mostly been strongly characterized by the first 3 and mostly contradicts the last 3....although I don't know if that's always been the case.

18 posted on 05/31/2006 1:48:13 PM PDT by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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Darwinism is not ....in my book...is not about being a social conservative...it is about being a certain type of evangelical Christian...and one does not have to be an evangelical nor does one have to be a christian to be a social conservative. following a decent moral code, and condemnation of infanticide IS part of being a social conservative......IMHO anyway. a strong belief in the constitution is also part of being a social conservative. Primarily the second amendment..(and the first also.)and the rest.


19 posted on 05/31/2006 1:48:36 PM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Conservatives:

- believe in personal responsibility and can't stand evasiveness;
- always search for the truth, wherever the chips may fall;
- prefer to cure the disease, rather than treat the symptoms;
- have common sense and believe in ethical behavior.


.... and these traits apply BOTH in social and political matters!


20 posted on 05/31/2006 1:53:31 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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I've always thought the best definition of conservative was one who put individual freedom ahead of everything else, to the point where they would give their life for it.

A liberal is someone who puts what the think is best for society ahead of all else, to the point where they would take your life for it.


22 posted on 05/31/2006 1:54:59 PM PDT by oldleft
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both


26 posted on 05/31/2006 2:00:39 PM PDT by oldtimer2 (Every morning I wake up and thank God that I was not born as Chuck Shumer)
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If you're financially conservative but socially liberal, you'll end up voting on the side of your social causes, meaning more gubmint money, so whenever someone says they're financially conservative, I never believe it. Can't occupy the same space at the same time. For further research on the matter, please watch the movie Time Cop.

In the reverse (socially conservative, financially liberal) it simply doesn't make sense. A financial liberal doesn't have the brains to be socially conservative.


27 posted on 05/31/2006 2:01:47 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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