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Sons Of Iwo Jima (Excellent Haditha "massacre" article)
Invest. business Daily ^ | 5/30/06 | staff

Posted on 05/30/2006 5:15:26 PM PDT by pissant

War In Iraq: The press is salivating over the prospect of an Iraqi My Lai in the town of Haditha, with ABC trotting out Rep. John Murtha to brand U.S. troops war criminals just in time for Memorial Day.

Appearing Sunday on ABC's "This Week," and with the matter still under investigation, Murtha, D-Pa., decided it would be sentence first and trial later when he proclaimed Marines responding to an attack in the town of Haditha on Nov. 19 guilty of murder of at least 15 Iraqi civilians.

The incident began as a Marine convoy of Kilo Company, Third Battalion, First Marine Regiment, was passing through Haditha in the Iraqi province of Anbar. A roadside improvised explosive device (IED) went off, killing Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas, 20, of El Paso, who was on his second tour of duty.

According to Time magazine, an Iraqi civil rights group claims the Marines then barged into nearby houses, throwing grenades and shooting civilians randomly as they cowered in fear. Murtha believes the Time report. "I will not excuse murder," he said on ABC, "and this is what happened."

But Duncan Hunter, D-Calif., chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, who got all the briefings on the matter Murtha got, says the "in cold blood" allegations by Murtha are all wet.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; coldblood; djsob; haditha; ibd; iraq; iraqwar; iwojima; johnmurtha; marines; military; murtha; semperfi; usmarines
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To: Lx

Duncan Hunter is a staunch Republican. A real conservative.


21 posted on 05/30/2006 5:34:04 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That is a very gross visual. LOL


22 posted on 05/30/2006 5:38:00 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

an Iraqi civil rights group claims the Marines then barged into nearby houses, throwing grenades and shooting civilians randomly as they cowered in fear.



How did I miss this part of the story........I'll take the word of a Marine over an Iraqi anyday of the week...


23 posted on 05/30/2006 5:38:43 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Thanks for the correction. I really hate it when these articles make mistakes like this. Duncan Hunter us great.


24 posted on 05/30/2006 5:39:00 PM PDT by Brandie (I do not ask you to support our Troops, I tell you that you must or you are no friend of mine.)
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To: pissant
But I assume most support the prosecution of gross malfeasance, if it occurs.
No doubt. What's at question here is not what happened at Haditha, but what's happening in Iraq. This is a technical issue if you're not insane against what we're doing in Iraq. For those fools, it becomes a metaphor.
25 posted on 05/30/2006 5:39:01 PM PDT by nicollo (All economics are politics)
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To: mystery-ak

Or a self serving congressman.


26 posted on 05/30/2006 5:40:00 PM PDT by pissant
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To: RKV

Aren't you worried about how Murtha has gotten the media all reved up for reports on our soldiers as "baby killers." I am, but then I worry about things.

I just don't expect the media to exercise any restraint or give context.


27 posted on 05/30/2006 5:40:23 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: RKV
They will take care of any "bad actors" because they take the honor of the Corps seriously.

And that is the ultimate bottom line.

28 posted on 05/30/2006 5:41:05 PM PDT by Bahbah (The Dream Act...the latest nightmare to be brought to you by the US Senate)
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To: nicollo

It has become the metaphor they were praying (to gaia) for, since the start of the war.


29 posted on 05/30/2006 5:41:07 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Especially a self serving POS Congressman....


30 posted on 05/30/2006 5:42:47 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: mystery-ak

Yep. I forgot the POS.


31 posted on 05/30/2006 5:45:36 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

So was Abu Ghraib. Key word: "was."


32 posted on 05/30/2006 6:08:47 PM PDT by nicollo (All economics are politics)
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To: pissant; All

Story coming up on H&C...on Fox


33 posted on 05/30/2006 6:12:47 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Patriot from Philly

Let not your heart be troubled. Do not give them traction, and don't waste your time worrying. Americans get it. Despite the worst that the media can do.


34 posted on 05/30/2006 6:32:58 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: nicollo; All

Yep. I remember the glee and handwringing and the hundreds of stories about the sandstorm quagmire (3 days into the invasion), the deadly fedayeen, the errant missile where Saddam was supposed to be meeting, the looting, the wily Saddam avoiding capture, the quagmire in Najaf, the tank firing at the reporters, the fake turkey that the Prez was serving to the troops, the infamous wedding "massacre", the atrocities of Fallujah, the Mosque massacre, the resultant "civil war", and of course Abu Ghraib. The MSM has hit the paydirt so many times with scandal and incompetence, its breathtaking.

These stories listed above were covered in tens of thousands of MSM articles. The progress and good news stories, of which there have been hundreds, have been covered in all of about 40 articles in the last 3 years.


35 posted on 05/30/2006 6:42:01 PM PDT by pissant
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To: mystery-ak

I'll have to catch the repeat. Who are they talking with? Please tell me it is not Lawrence Odonnell.


36 posted on 05/30/2006 6:42:57 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Col Cowan....you didn't miss much...Hannity defended the Marines, Colmes idolizes and defends Murtha....sickening..


37 posted on 05/30/2006 6:44:42 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: mystery-ak

I try not to watch that show. LOL. I like Brit and Cavuto, but that's about it.


38 posted on 05/30/2006 6:47:20 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Just browsing through the May 21 Wash (com)Post book magazine and I see a review by Stanley Karnow of the Michael Sallah book, "Tiger Force: A True Story of Men and War." The (com)Post title for the review is "Crimes of War."

I suspect that the book authors do not agree with the review. Nonetheless, the reviewer, a journalist in Vietnam, practically slobbers over the possibilities of American war crimes in Vietnam -- and elsewhere, aka Abu Graib. He blames America for some of the worst cruelties of Tiger Force in Vietnam, committed by latinos, who, he says, did it becuase they were "harrassed by Anglo supremacists back home." Did this line of thought come up during Abu Graib? Perhaps the fraternity-mentality defense, but none of this class/race b.s. that this moron feeds upon. Pathetic.

What I must assume was the worst of the "war crimes" that the reviewer discusses amounts to a stupidly small number of deaths in 120 people over 33 days in 1967. Sad, yes. Defining of the entire war in which millions died? Shut up. That'd be a single lost bomb over a Tokyo suburb in 1944. Same motive, same effect.

And 1967! The war was plenty popular yet. Anyone who looks to that date for justification of the Vietnam War's futility is just pulling grass. "Look! Look!" Without later events whatever happened in 1967 means nothing. Same goes for today's news. What happens next is all that matters. We musn't let the fools get us down.

Perhaps the present "unpopularity" of this war will help sustain it. With so many Americans not expecting quick results, perhaps their pessimism may be translated into patience and fortitude. Here's to hoping.


39 posted on 05/30/2006 7:10:28 PM PDT by nicollo (All economics are politics)
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To: nicollo

Here's to hoping.


40 posted on 05/30/2006 7:15:51 PM PDT by pissant
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