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1 posted on 05/30/2006 12:54:47 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker
Ex-gay movement

Is that what happens when gays flush?

2 posted on 05/30/2006 12:55:43 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (RINO, Bushbot, Jorge, illegal lover, anti-American, blah blah blah)
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To: SmoothTalker
You don't understand - when the gays want IN - they are all for openness and tolerance. When the gays have power, all discussion not along the party line must be crushed...
4 posted on 05/30/2006 1:00:18 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: SmoothTalker
Excellent website and 501C charity based on this very topic, i.e. the recovering homosexual. Please promote, pass it on and consider adding it to your donation list. I have and do for the last few years. http://www.pfox.org/
5 posted on 05/30/2006 1:03:52 PM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: SmoothTalker

The liberal Pubic Skooh Sistum isn't interested in equality. They only want THEIR agenda to be taught. They have no intention of teaching regular education such as reading, writing, arithmetic, history, government, science. They want you to learn tolerance, condom application, how and where you can get an abortion without your parents permission, how to be a Muslim by becoming one for a week..including wearing of their cloths, reciting their prayers to Allah, and performing your own Jihad. Sex education means having sex with whom ever you want how ever you want, explaining that "condoms" will prevent you from most all sexually transmitted disease, and sex is not only fun it's necessary to be a well rounded individual even outside of marriage or with people of the same sex, or even perhaps with animals - if that's your thing.


6 posted on 05/30/2006 1:05:42 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: SmoothTalker
They contend that schools have an obligation to balance gay-pride themes with the message that gay and lesbian students can go straight through so-called "reparative therapy." In this view, homosexuality is not a fixed or inborn trait but a symptom of emotional distress -- a disorder that can be cured."

Considering years and years of searching has yet to turn up the elusive gay gene, perhaps they are on to something. But 'experts' will continue to insist that homosexuality is 100% born trait, even though twin studies suggest only a partial correlation. The reality is that homosexual behavior has both a genetic component and an enviromental component (abuse, molestation, even peer pressure/curiousity now days). What causes it varies from person to person. So in many the therapy could be successful. But liberals don't see the problem with a permiscuous sexually deviant lifestyle that spreads deadly diseases, so they won't admit that there is anything to be cured, and will demonize anyone who suggests otherwise.

10 posted on 05/30/2006 1:12:52 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: SmoothTalker

The article (note the LA Times byline) takes almost every opportunity to smear ex-gays (whose very existence is a challenge to the reigning pro-gay orthodoxy - you CAN'T change). For example, the writer makes an unqualified statement: "Mental-health professionals warn against therapy to change sexual orientation, calling it ineffective and potentially harmful to patients' self-esteem." The statement should be qualified with "Some mental-health professionals ...". Or labeling a simple statement "rhetoric" (which is a perjorative term to modern reporters who are ignorant of rhetoric -- the ability to clearly express one's case -- being one of the three pillars of classical education, the other two being grammar [fundamental knowledge] and logic).

A friend is ex-gay, long since happily married with mature, well-adjusted children... and an active outreach to others also wanting to escape that lifestyle. But the left wants us to know that such people CANNOT, and therefore do not, exist.


11 posted on 05/30/2006 1:14:36 PM PDT by Tirian
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To: SmoothTalker
He had no choice, she told him: He was gay.

Funny how libs are all about choice when the "choice" is whether a baby lives or dies, but when it comes to sodomy, you don't have any choice any longer. Interesting...

15 posted on 05/30/2006 1:34:53 PM PDT by mikemach5
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To: SmoothTalker
the whole proposition is ridiculous. what's next -- textbooks that highlight the accomplishment of fat people over history? cross-eyed people?

we have let the weirdos define the debates of culture.

16 posted on 05/30/2006 1:51:23 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (whatever)
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To: SmoothTalker



As it should be.....

we insist people get help who are sexually attracted to young boys and

we insist people get help who are sexually attracted to their siblings, moms, dads etc

then why is it a No No to insist people get help who are sexually attracted to the same sex?????

Ex-gay is OK!


20 posted on 05/30/2006 4:00:04 PM PDT by dcnd9
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Looks like same article with different headline as this one posted on FR two days ago: 'Ex-Gays' Seek a Say in Schools

22 posted on 05/30/2006 5:36:41 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Good People,

I have posted on this topic before. I hope you will be patient with me if you have read my posts and I seem to be repeating myself. I feel a responsibility to speak my truth when these posts appear for anyone who will listen.

As a man who struggled with homosexual fantasies and attractions for most of his adult life, I cannot emphasize enough how important it is for people to speak out with the message that homosexuality is NOT innate or inborn and that ANYONE can recover from homosexuality.

I do not need any twin studies or any other studies to know that this is an absolute fact. It is the truth ingrained in my own soul. I live it every day. I struggled with homosexual attractions for years but through patience, faith, therapy, abstinence, the love of family and friends, thinking for myself and the help of God I have come out on the other side. I am now developing a physically and emotionally intimate relationship with the most wonderful woman in the world (God has been exceptionally good to me) and we will marry the end of October. Homosexual fantasy is becoming a distant, vague memory.

There is so much to say here. I don't know whether to tell my own personal story or emphasize the political and social history that brought us where we are today.

Consider this, I was born in 1960. In 1973, when I was thirteen the American Psychiatric Association said homosexuality no longer qualified as a mental disorder. By the time I was graduating college, there was a virus going round that no one knew much about, but that would kill off a significant portion of my brothers, the misfit boys of my generation, the boys who weren't picked for the basketball team. Yet no one said the obvious, obvious truth that these boys needed help to get out of the homosexual lifestyle. Instead the graves were dug. What is man that he would rather face death than face the truth?

Today, the mainstream media, the educational establishment, and the therapeutic professions continually broadcast the lie that homosexuality is inborn, genetic, an essential character trait, a characteristic that defines the human being, that nothing can be done to change. After my life experiences this lie is so absurd it's hard to respond to it.

News flash: There ARE homosexual feelings and homosexual attractions. Indeed it is not uncommon for people to experience homosexual feelings, especially given a particular set of circumstances. Indeed, such feelings can become quite fixated. But there is NO SUCH THING AS A "HOMOSEXUAL," a special species of human being, a separate species that is incapable of finding emotional or physical satisfaction with a member of the opposite sex (as God intended all humans to do). The media, the "Gay" rights movement, the educational establishment and the medical/psychological establishment is entrapping people in a horrible and sometimes even fatal lie.

It is up to you good people to speak out about this. There are few causes in our time that require more bravery or are as important.
25 posted on 05/30/2006 9:13:43 PM PDT by SoulMan
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To: windcliff
men and women who call themselves "ex-gay"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
26 posted on 05/30/2006 9:20:18 PM PDT by stylecouncilor
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To: SmoothTalker

One of the greatest turning points in my life took place right after our family moved back to the big city -- a town of 35,000 -- when, at recess time a flashy guy showed up on the playground with an armload of Duncan Yo-Yos and mesmerized us boys and girls alike walking the dog, sleeping and looping the loop.

What was amazing was that the inventor of this ageless toy had discovered that the thing contained a theretofore unknown property once Duncan untied the string about the YoYo's core.

Life hasn't been the same since and can't be tied back tight again.


34 posted on 05/30/2006 11:01:39 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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In essence, the cinchless winch became a witching wench.


35 posted on 05/30/2006 11:05:38 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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