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Abducted man shoots carjackers, police say
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 27, 2006 | ERIC HANSON

Posted on 05/27/2006 3:27:19 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope

The Richmond police heard shots and came running

RICHMOND - Two teenagers who police said tried to steal a Rosenberg man's luxury car picked the wrong person, the wrong place and the wrong time.

After abducting the man, who was able to stash his own pistol in a pocket, the teens drove him to a vacant lot Friday that just happened to be a few hundred feet from the Richmond police station, where officers were changing shifts.

When McRon Thompson, 23, opened fire on the would-be car thieves, police heard the shots and came running. The teens, who were both wounded, were captured.

"Obviously, they didn't know where they were, close to the police station and during a shift change. They didn't have a clue," said Sgt. Lowell Neinast of the Richmond Police Department.

Neinast said the teens are from Brookshire and detectives do not know why they chose the Fort Bend County town as a place for a carjacking.

The two, 18-year-old Joshua Payne and a 15-year-old whose name was not released because of his age, are facing aggravated robbery charges.

No charges are expected against Thompson, Neinast said.

Thompson had stopped at a carwash in the 1400 block of Jackson about 1 a.m., after finishing work at the nearby Richmond Foundry.

Vehicles looked suspicious

Neinast said Thompson was washing his customized Cadillac when he noticed three vehicles drive slowly through the carwash parking lot. The cars left but returned a few minutes later, again going slowly through the parking lot.

After the three cars passed by the second time, Thompson retrieved a .40-caliber pistol from his car, loaded it and then put it in his pocket.

A few minutes later, one of the cars returned to the carwash and stopped.

When Thompson peered around the wall of a carwash stall, he found himself staring at the end of a pistol held by a young man wearing a bandana over his face.

The gunman forced Thompson into the back seat of the Cadillac while another person got behind the wheel and began to drive away.

Neinast said the pair drove to the 500 block of Calhoun, just a block away from the Richmond police station, an imposing brick building that served for many years as the Fort Bend County Jail.

The teens ordered Thompson out of his car and told him to lie down on the grass. While Thompson was complying, a second vehicle, one that he had seen earlier at the carwash, arrived and stopped.

Neinast said as the teens were getting ready to leave in the Cadillac, Thompson managed to pull his pistol and open fire.

Payne was hit in the back by a bullet that exited his stomach. The other teen was struck in the right shoulder.

Police officers, standing in the parking lot of the station, heard the shots and were on the scene in seconds. Officers spotted the teens running, then caught them. Police also recovered a semiautomatic pistol allegedly used by the 15-year-old, Neinast said.

Both teens hospitalized

Payne was taken by Life Flight to Memorial Hermann Hospital and the 15-year-old to Ben Taub Hospital. Their conditions were not immediately available.

Other suspects are still at large.

Neinast said Thompson's Cadillac was in "immaculate condition," and the suspects were probably just driving around town looking for a target.

"Then they spotted him in the carwash," Neinast said.


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To: winodog

"So the two teenagers laid you down on the grass and left the scene but you shot both of them in the back? I can hear the attorney now."


Unless your attacker turned around to retrieve a weapon or to attack another victem, shooting him/her in the back may be quite costly to the shooter.

If the attacker lives and testifies he/she was running away from you when you fired a round into their back.....oh gee.


41 posted on 05/27/2006 7:03:26 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: Recon Dad

FYI If you are near Delaware Ohio Blackwing on Rt.36 offers some great courses. NewAlbany Shooting range,east of Columbus, also has an excellent rep.


42 posted on 05/27/2006 7:05:25 AM PDT by jerwin63 (I once worked in an orange juice factory, but I got canned, ...couldn't concentrate.)
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To: cbkaty
There are always trade offs in life. Still the malicious mischief at night will have ended.

Lots of times these things are no billed at the grand jury level and no trial is held.
43 posted on 05/27/2006 7:15:52 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: TET1968
This happened in Texas, not Maryland.
44 posted on 05/27/2006 7:16:57 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

I like Texas.


45 posted on 05/27/2006 7:28:13 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Lots of times these things are no billed at the grand jury level and no trial is held.

Please don't misunderstand...I am with the shooter.. I would likely have emptied the clip and reloaded.....but I utilize a 45...with safety slugs or hollows...

46 posted on 05/27/2006 7:28:54 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: cbkaty

Correction (Had I been the shooter)


47 posted on 05/27/2006 7:29:37 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: TET1968

Thats why I said that. If you have a chance to get away or if the attackers are leaving and you shoot them in the back, you will need to hire a better attorney then the lowlife.


48 posted on 05/27/2006 7:38:32 AM PDT by winodog (Its the constitution, dummy.)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

In Atlanta, this would have played out on the news with an hysterical mother screaming that her child didn't deserve to be shot for just snatchin' a car.


49 posted on 05/27/2006 7:50:19 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Why is this or a similar phrase always included in these stories. "No charges are expected against Thompson, Neinast said" They always have to mention that they are thinking about arresting the victem; turns my stomach!
50 posted on 05/27/2006 8:11:06 AM PDT by jwatzzzzz (jwatzzzzz)
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To: jwatzzzzz
Why is this or a similar phrase always included in these stories. "No charges are expected against Thompson, Neinast said" They always have to mention that they are thinking about arresting the victem; turns my stomach!

It's their job. People have been shot and IMNSHO that always requires investigation, despite how straightforward the situation may appear at first glance. IMNSHO this should apply to cops in exactly same measure as to J. Random Citizen.
51 posted on 05/27/2006 9:12:55 AM PDT by MirrorField (Just an opinion from atheist, minarchist and small-l libertarian.)
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To: winodog
That's why I said that this is Texas and not Maryland.

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
~ ~ (1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and
~ ~ (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
~ ~ ~ (A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
~ ~ ~ (B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and
~ ~ (3) he reasonably believes that:
~ ~ ~ (A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or
~ ~ ~ (B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

http://www.bakers-legal-pages.com/pc/0942.htm

I don't see anything in there about having to run away from your attackers or not being able to shoot them in the back if they are leaving.

He had no other way to get his car back other than to nail them. The old boy needed to keep them from fleeing and he did so in a most reasonable manner.

Sissy run away from your attackers instead of nailing the suckers laws may be the norm in Maryland, but they are not the law in Texas.
52 posted on 05/27/2006 9:14:27 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Easy, cowboy. I heard you the first time.
First of all I was replying to #41 which was replying to me. And second I dont live in Maryland.

Oh yeah most of us dont live in Texas and we might be facing murder charges if we shot these two in the back when they were leaving. Therefore it is important to point that out to make sure anyone who is armed is well aware of who they can shoot in the back and who they cannot shoot in the back.

One more thing, I agree that he should be able to shoot them and they should be buried and not breathing now. I just know lawyers and if they can make a buck or get their name on the front page to advance their political career they would take this to the supreme court.


53 posted on 05/27/2006 12:58:06 PM PDT by winodog (Its the constitution, dummy.)
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To: abseaman

use a bigger caliber bullet.....

Is 40 caliber small?


54 posted on 05/27/2006 1:01:32 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: winodog
McRon Thompson is only 23 and he works the night shift at the foundry, so I doubt he has many assets above and beyond his Cadillac for the lawyers to come after.
55 posted on 05/27/2006 1:54:02 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Thats why I said

"or get their name on the front page to advance their political career"

Look at what is happening those students at Duke University. A out of control DA desperate to win election has the students on a $400,000 bond and its very highly they raped her.

A few years ago a man in Las Vegas came home and caught the burglers in the act. There was a fight and he either toke a gun away or got to his, chased them outside and shot one dead in the back.

He did hard time in prison after the courts were done with him because the crime was over, he was not in danger anymore therefore he had no right to shoot them.


56 posted on 05/27/2006 3:39:54 PM PDT by winodog (Its the constitution, dummy.)
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To: winodog

I should proofread before I toke errrrr post.


57 posted on 05/27/2006 3:41:41 PM PDT by winodog (Its the constitution, dummy.)
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To: jerwin63

We are signed up for the 10th & 11th at Target World in Cincy.


58 posted on 05/27/2006 6:16:18 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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