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Honda has every car in Indianapolis 500
Yahoo! Sports ^ | May 23, 2006 | Bruce Martin

Posted on 05/26/2006 8:05:32 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot

INDIANAPOLIS (Ticker) - Robert Clarke, the president of Honda Performance Development, can't help but consider the irony of Honda's circuitous route to supplying every car in the starting field for the 90th Indianapolis 500.

Clarke remembers that difficult initial experience in 1994, when Honda was new to IndyCar racing and arrived at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway with Team Rahal.

It was obvious from the start that the new engine company wasn't up to speed and Bobby Rahal was in danger of missing the race for the second year in a row. Rahal made the difficult decision to abandon the engine at Indy in the second week of qualifications and made the field in another brand.

But Honda would return the following year, started on the outside of the front row with Scott Goodyear and nearly won the race.

Honda returned to the Indianapolis 500 in 2003, but it was Toyota-powered Gil de Ferran that drove into victory lane that day, giving team owner Roger Penske a record 13th Indy 500 win.

Buddy Rice gave Honda its first Indy 500 winner in 2004 in an ironic twist Rahal was his team owner. Dan Wheldon gave Honda its second Indy win last year as it had become the dominant engine in the sport.

"We've gone the whole spectrum," Clarke said. "We were the first Japanese make there, we failed to qualify, were laughed out and now we own the entire starting field. We've gone full circle."

Honda is now the sole supplier to the Indy Racing League and as many fans of the 500 arrive early enough to see the sun rise over the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

"It is big," Clarke said. "As far as Honda goes, clearly we understand and appreciate what that event means. It was a key part of our decision to be here and to support the entire field. It's pretty cool to have a Honda engine in all 33 cars. The satisfaction of meeting that challenge remains."

The Indianapolis 500 has always cast a magical name to racing enthusiasts in Japan. It's the epic, bigger-than-life event that lures many a visitor from the Far East to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway every year.

In the 1990s, Honda decided to build an oval race track Twin Ring Motegi. Just outside the gates to that facility is the Honda Museum, which proudly exhibits several cars that have raced in the Indianapolis 500.

Clarke's interest in the Indy 500 grew at an early age. He was the son of a Navy fighter pilot and when he grew up in Coronado, California his father took him to an SCCA race when he was 8 years old.

"I was hooked from that weekend," Clarke said.

He would attended graduate school at Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana and the industrial design student got a chance to attend his first Indy 500 in 1974.

"My wife and I went on pole day and then we came back for the race," Clarke said. "I was in awe. The speed of the cars was something I had never experienced before. That's what I recall the most was the speed."

His first job in racing was with Honda in 1980 and he ultimately became the president of Honda Performance Development.

Honda is now a partner in the IRL. It's betting that the series will grow and wants to remain a key player.

"A great deal of time and energy has been pointed at our new engine program, and we feel this type of program is perfect for us at this point in our history," said IRL president and chief operating officer Brian Barnhart. "Just a few short years ago we welcomed an expanded roster of manufacturers to the series, and that helped us achieve some goals that we had set at that time.

"In this era of value, a single-engine program will allow better cost containment and put us in a position to attract expanded teams or new teams to our series."

There are a mix of rewards and challenges that come with being the only engine in the series.

"The benefits are we win every race," Clarke said.

There are plenty of challenges, though, mostly ensuring a supply of engines for the entire field. In a little over four months since announcing it would make all the engines, HPD has had to make sure there are enough parts available to rebuild the engines as well as increase the staff for trackside support.

"It was a major project within the very limited time that we had," Clarke said. "But I feel we have crested the hill and we're on the downhill slope of that now. Getting ready was the big job."

Defending Indy 500 winner and defending IRL champion Wheldon admitted Honda was a major factor in his championship run, but the whole series should prosper now that all teams have equal engines

His former teammate at AGR, Dario Franchitti, said the challenge remains the same to beat the other guy.

"I think first of all Honda should be applauded for what they've done in stepping up and supplying the whole series," Franchitti said. "I've enjoyed a long relationship with them. This is my ninth season with Honda. You have to do your talking on the track.

"There's going to be no favorites from Honda. They've made that very clear."


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KEYWORDS: automakers; automotive; honda; indy500
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Who, (no he/she wasn't Japanese!) founded the Indiapolis race 90 years ago?


41 posted on 05/26/2006 9:35:34 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: God luvs America


Beg to differ. No serious driver wants in on irl oval driving , none.

Take a long look at CHAMP Car and their massive ladder system and close relationship with F1.Drivers from Europe drive in CHAMP.Drivers from South Amercia want in also.

CHAMP has created a large organization and is in a postion to dominate now,and long into the future.

Irl ? They`re just going in circles.


42 posted on 05/26/2006 9:36:09 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: B Knotts
Honda is the only serious engine company in the world. LOL
You MUST be kidding.


No

Just read Ward's Auto World "10 Best Engines" for the last 10 years.

Honda always does well and this year has 2 engines in the top ten.

GM with FAR more money and FAR resources has only the 4.2L Vortec in the top ten.
43 posted on 05/26/2006 9:46:41 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: Mikey_1962
Honda has some decent engines, but they are far from "the only serious engine company in the world." They tend toward high-rpm, low-torque engines.

Here's a more interesting engine:

It won at Sebring. And it's a diesel.

44 posted on 05/26/2006 9:56:38 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Mikey_1962
"Honda is the only serious engine company in the world."


"Just read Ward's Auto World "10 Best Engines" for the last 10 years.

Honda always does well and this year has 2 engines in the top ten."

Okaaaaaay, using your reference

2006

Audi 2 L I4 FSI turbocharged DOHC
Audi 4.2 L V8 DOHC
BMW 3 L I6 DOHC
DaimlerChrysler 5.7 L V8 Hemi Magnum
Ford 4.6 L V8 Modular SOHC
General Motors 2 L I4 Ecotec LSJ supercharged DOHC
General Motors 2.8 L V6 High-Feature turbocharged DOHC
Mazda 2.3 L I4 MZR DISI turbocharged DOHC
Nissan 3.5 L V6 DOHC
Toyota 3.5 L V6 DOHC


Now, I may not be as knowledgeable as you but I don't see any Hondas listed but I do see two GM's listed.
45 posted on 05/26/2006 10:08:55 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

the best thing CHAMP can due is merge with IRL; it ain't nuthin without the 500....


46 posted on 05/26/2006 10:12:38 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Mikey_1962
Hmmm...according to Wikipedia, there were no Honda engines on the list for 2006. There were, however, two GM engines, two Audi engines and one Ford engine on the list:

Ward's 10 Best Engines

2006:

Audi 2 L I4 FSI turbocharged DOHC
Audi 4.2 L V8 DOHC
BMW 3 L I6 DOHC
DaimlerChrysler 5.7 L V8 Hemi Magnum
Ford 4.6 L V8 Modular SOHC
General Motors 2 L I4 Ecotec LSJ supercharged DOHC
General Motors 2.8 L V6 High-Feature turbocharged DOHC
Mazda 2.3 L I4 MZR DISI turbocharged DOHC
Nissan 3.5 L V6 DOHC
Toyota 3.5 L V6 DOHC

47 posted on 05/26/2006 10:17:06 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Para-Ord.45
"Irl ? They`re just going in circles."

Yup, everyone knows right turns are so much more difficult than left turns. Who cares if you cannot see most of the track? Good racing is good racing regardless of the track type, road, off road, oval, drag etc. As long as I can see 90%+ of the track I want to be there. On road races, the only way is TV and a DVR.

48 posted on 05/26/2006 10:33:44 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You know, I remember when the Indy 500 used to be the Indy 500, and some guy - can't remember the team or driver - reworked an old schoolbus engine and came in 10th, I believe.

Anyway, I would like to see Indy be Indy again, and not just another race with Tony George Approved engines, or Tony George approved chassis, or Tony George approved rules or....

It should be open to any and all comers. Here's the basic rules: certain width, height, weight, displacement etc... buy it, build it whatever...

I saw an ad in the paper the day before the track opened that offered a two for one coupon for opening day tickets. I think that's a first.

49 posted on 05/26/2006 10:45:22 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: N. Theknow
Always enjoyed the time trials better than the race.
Open track practice in the morning before the Time trials and then the trials lasted until 6PM local time.
The race itself is over in less time than a NFL or MLB game.

You ever been to an NFL game? Let me assure you that the game itself is sometimes anticlimatic. It's the build-up and tailgating that is the real 'game'.

50 posted on 05/26/2006 11:00:04 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: ClearCase_guy
Going around a circle gets you back to where you started. That's not what he's trying to say. English is a tool. Learn to use it well.

He is trying to say that they have covered the entire spectrum of what you can do as an engine manufacturer in that market. Kind of like saying they went from 1 o'clock to 12:59:59. Since they started at the beginning and can't go any farther without recovering ground they already covered, then 'full circle' is a valid expression. It just depends on how you look at it.
51 posted on 05/26/2006 11:24:24 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"Sneaky Japanese"

Uhh..

Try "built a better product Japanese"

Market forces at work. Skill, competence and higher standards pay off.

52 posted on 05/26/2006 12:17:52 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: kellynla
"The Corvette Z06 achieves 500 horsepower in an approximately 3130-pound vehicle and delivers 0-60 performance in less than 4 seconds, quarter-mile in less than 12 seconds and a top speed of more than 190 mph on a race track. And 25 mpg highway and all this for under $67K MSRP."

All well and good but when does it poop out? 150,000 miles. Like...half the life of Honda engines.

53 posted on 05/26/2006 12:20:58 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4

"All well and good but when does it poop out? 150,000 miles. Like...half the life of Honda engines."


well when you get your Honda to run 190MPH, you let us all know. LOL And I'm not talkin' about the Hondas they're runnin' at Indy either. :-)


54 posted on 05/26/2006 12:25:17 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: mc5cents
You ever been to an NFL game?

Yep. 15 different stadiums with tailgate parties and also sat in the press box in 8 stadiums with the broadcast crew.

55 posted on 05/26/2006 1:37:58 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
This is what I like about the Indy 500...


56 posted on 05/26/2006 1:48:59 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: kellynla
The Toyota 2JZ-GTE is way better than their V6. Best inline six (which is the best cylinder configuration) of all time.

See for yourself: www.t04r.com/

57 posted on 05/26/2006 5:09:58 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Honda has every car in Indianapolis 500

I haven't watched it in years, but didn't they rename it the "Danica Patrick 500"?

58 posted on 05/26/2006 5:16:16 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Honda has every car in Indianapolis 500

All your Race Car belong to us?

59 posted on 05/29/2006 8:04:05 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: brownsfan

My company got exposure in advertizing on two of the cars. I didn't realise Honda was so dominant. Don't watch racing...


60 posted on 05/29/2006 8:11:15 PM PDT by cibco (www.streachfuelmileage.shorturl.com)
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