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Illegals granted Social Security (05/18/06-Senate 50-49 vote/based on past illegal employment ????)
Washington Times ^ | May 19, 2006 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/19/2006 5:13:02 AM PDT by IrishMike

The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents. "There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That sounds like amnesty to me," said Sen. John Ensign, the Nevada Republican who offered the amendment yesterday to strip out those provisions of the immigration reform bill. "It just boggles the mind how people could be against this amendment." The Ensign amendment was defeated on a 50-49 vote. "We all know that millions of undocumented immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for years and sometimes decades while they work to contribute to our economy," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican. "The Ensign amendment would undermine the work of these people by preventing lawfully present immigrant workers from claiming Social Security benefits that they earned before they were authorized to work in our community," he said. "If this amendment were enacted, the nest egg that these immigrants have worked hard for would be taken from them and their families." Mr. Ensign was among 44 Republicans and five Democrats who voted to block such payouts

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TOPICS: Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; alien; aliens; congress; congressmorons; corruption; dnc; elections; gop; identitytheft; johnmccain; leaglizedidtheft; mccain; senate; socialists; socialsecurity; ssa; tax; taxes
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To: Warren_Piece

Both our senators are RINOs

Lott, whom the White House and MSM pushed out at least voted right on this one.


121 posted on 05/19/2006 8:33:45 AM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: wardaddy

**My 1st post**

L. Alexander's term is up 1/03/09.

After the Kyl-Cornyn bill was defeated last night, I phoned Alexander's DC office relaying my disgust (via answering machine) and stated that "I hope you've enjoyed your first and only term as senator in Washington."


122 posted on 05/19/2006 8:52:29 AM PDT by tnvol01
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To: NRA2BFree
"We all know that millions of undocumented immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for years and sometimes decades while they work to contribute to our economy," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican.

We Arizonans have to get rid of this absolute jerk. He has no right to be a senator much less potus.

It's a felony to use someone elses SS#. Years ago, an illegal financed a car and let it be repossessed using my SS#.

123 posted on 05/19/2006 8:55:04 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: tnvol01

no kidding


124 posted on 05/19/2006 8:55:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: gaspar
A gift that just keeps giving. From John McCain, who gave us the McCain-Feingold attack on free speech, who opposes tax cuts, who has no interest in sealing the borders, we now have a frontal attack on American culture. This east coast elitist, who from his 11 acre "ranch" at the wus-paradise Sedona wears the mantle of Western rugged individualism, is a 24 carat phoney. In reality he is the quintessential guilt ridden white about whom Shelby Steele writes.

You're exactly right! The biggest traitors in DC are nothing more than "east coast elitists!" He's bought and paid for by special interest groups, and he's a power hungry, greedy traitor!!! He can forget about becoming President!!!!

125 posted on 05/19/2006 10:08:26 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (CONGRESS, YOU BUILD THE FENCE NOW, OR WE'LL VOTE FOR LAWMAKERS WHO WILL!)
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To: taxed2death

There is no Socialist Security "trust fund". The media and the politicians talk about it, but it doesn't exist. Retirement benefits are paid from current payroll taxes, not from an accumulated fund, not from an "endowment", not from a "trust". It's a ponzi scheme where current working suckers provide the money to pay retirement benefits to the retired suckers. No one has an account with a "balance". If a private pension plan was run in this manner, the corporate executives would be convicted of fraud and embezzlement. But since Socialist Security is run by the government, it's exempt from ethics or legal niceties.


126 posted on 05/19/2006 10:11:51 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: IrishMike

Subject: Timely Poem

I come for visit, get treated regal,
So I say, who care I illegal.
Cross the border, poor and broke,
Take the bus, see assistance bloke.
Nice man treat me good in there,
Say I need welfare.

Welfare checks they make you wealthy,
Medicare, it keep you healthy.
By and by, I got plenty money.
Thanks American working dummy!

Write to friends in motherland,
Tell them to come as fast as can.
They come in rags and chebby trucks,
I buy house with welfare bucks.

They all come, we live together,
Some say they no like the weather.
Fourteen families all move in,
Neighbor's patience growing thin.

Finally white guy moves away,
I buy his house and then I say,
Find more aliens, house I rent,
In the garden I put a tent.

Send for family, they just trash,
But they all draw more welfare cash.
Everything is mucho good,
Soon we own the neighborhood.

We have hobby. It's called breeding,
Welfare pay for baby feeding.
Kids need dentist? Wife need pills?
We get free. We got no bills.

American crazy, he pay all year,
To keep his welfare running here.
We think America damn good place,
Too damn good for American race..
If they no like us, they can go......

Got lots of room in Mexico!!





128 posted on 05/19/2006 10:22:52 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: Mogollon
We Arizonans have to get rid of this absolute jerk. He has no right to be a senator much less potus.

I hope you do. He's dangerous to our sovereignty. I saw him state that over 60% of his campaign finances came from other than AZ. THAT shows what an arrogant POS he really is. IOW, he's saying that he will be the AZ Senator whether Arizonans like it or not, because he doesn't need your campaign financial support. Once the amnesty deal goes through, you guys are going to be in the same shape NM is. We already have 48% LEGAL Hispanics.

It's a felony to use someone elses SS#. Years ago, an illegal financed a car and let it be repossessed using my SS#.

Identity theft is also a felony, but when it's an illegal who does it, there is little you can do to recover your losses, as I'm sure you found out.

129 posted on 05/19/2006 10:23:53 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (CONGRESS, YOU BUILD THE FENCE NOW, OR WE'LL VOTE FOR LAWMAKERS WHO WILL!)
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To: cva66snipe

thank you....a wise insight....


130 posted on 05/19/2006 11:09:47 AM PDT by Nightrider
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To: toldyou

Great Reading.


131 posted on 05/19/2006 11:24:30 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: pleikumud

Thank you. Finally someone is pointing out where the real problem is here: Conservatives should be fighting to eliminate Social Security, not complaining that Mexican illegals are going to unfairly benifit from it. Social Security is a scheme to take money from some people and give it to others - no different than a tax.

Eliminate FICA tax and other other federal taxes and cut welfare entitlements way back - with less welfare, unemployment, and other socialist freebees - the law breaking parasites won't have much reason to come accross the border - we'll get the hard working law abiding Mexicans, who will be more than welcome.

Less socialism will be just what the doctor ordered for our own native born citizens too.

Q: Who cut taxes and tried to fix Social Security?
A: George W. Bush.
Let's give the man some credit.


132 posted on 05/19/2006 12:06:01 PM PDT by altoid
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To: KittyKares

go to grassfire.org and sign up. They have over a million and a half members. 350,000 have already signed petitions
I gave them $50 to help with their "Stop the Invasion" billbord campaign.


133 posted on 05/19/2006 12:45:35 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: standingfirm

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060519/1014691.asp


134 posted on 05/19/2006 1:29:58 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: stopem

You're fortunate to have Cornyn and Hutchinson..

I have Martinez, who is SUPPOSED to be a Republican and Bill Nelson. Interesting that Martinez(R) voted for allowing ILLEGAL residents to receive Soc Sec benefits for time the were ILLEGAL. But, Nelson, the Dem, voted against it! I called Mr. Martinez' office this morning to inform him that he will NEVER again get my vote. I am tired of his RINO behavior. I also called when he recently suggested the Constitution be changed to allow foreign born citizens to have the opportunity to be President of these great United States.....foreigners, like George Soros ....????


135 posted on 05/19/2006 2:24:58 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: dcnd9

They may have used your SS# or mine. Once they are legalized, they'll just claim where they worked and under what fake/stolen SS#, and the SSA will adjust its records.

The point is that in a nation of laws, you are not supposed to be able to profit from your crimes. The fact that this amendment failed is just an admission by those senators that they don't consider illegal immigration a crime.

Those contributions should be forfeit and treated like the payments of people now deceased.


136 posted on 05/19/2006 3:12:54 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: IrishMike

SS benefits for these illegal aliens is ill-gotten gain from a fraudulent felony. Therfore, they are not legally entitled to these funds.

This is clearly an amnesty, regardless of the silly claims to the contrary.


137 posted on 05/19/2006 3:15:21 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: harpu
Electing Lindsey Graham was a giant mistake.
The CINO pretended to be a conservative and now votes according to the wishes of the NY Times.
138 posted on 05/19/2006 5:46:00 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: GarySpFc; jigsaw; org.whodat; uncitizen; Eric in the Ozarks; SQUID; lemura; jeremiah

Let's see, Americans do not qualify unless they have worked and paid into SS for 40 quarters, but illegal aliens receive these benefits after 8. Nice.
Oh, quit whining already.

It's a time-honored tradition for the occupying invaders to enjoy far greater rights and privileges than those allowed to The Vanquished.

Get used to it, it's how it is in the New Vichy America.

We exist to serve them, and that's the end of that story.

I do have one question, though. If one of our Criminal Alien Masters has illegally (well, it would be illegal if an American did it) appropriated the SSN belonging to an actual American, then...

Then, WHO gets the benefits?

I've got a sinking feeling that the answer begins with "The Mexican."

139 posted on 05/19/2006 6:15:14 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: altoid
Conservatives should be fighting to eliminate Social Security,

You my friend have your tinfoil hat on much too tight. You are somewhere in the twilight zone.

140 posted on 05/19/2006 6:45:51 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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